well my girlfriend and I as well as couple of our friends want to get into this e-smoking thing and away from all the tobacco stuff as its not good for you and its getting damn expensive putting away money for those sticks. I did a bit of research and it seems that the dse901 is the way to go for all of us. But I have a couple of questions, firstly where is the cheapest place I can get the 901 in the states? and how much liquid or cartridges can you smoke before you have to replace the atomizer? Also how is the battery life in general? I know battery life depends on use but would I need to charge it every night and keep an extra just in case? Any recommendations to other products or general advice is welcome. I will have other questions soon as my friends and my girlfriend are very interested in this. and also, really friendly community you guys have here!
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Its not really mesured that way, its more a Hit and Hope thing
Being a delicate heating coil, it can go at almost any time, most go 2 weeks to a month, depending on useage and Luck. Rinseing them out if they get real bad with real low vapor out-put, "Can", extend the life a bit.
This is why everyone recommends extra atomizers with your first order, or asap.
Battery life also depends, on useage, yea, but again, a little luck. They do last alot longer then the atomizers most times. The more they are recharged, the lower the life span. A good bet would be at least a Month per with heavy/normal use.
Bigger E-cigs are normally better, unless your a real light user.
The 901, 801, pipe, and cigar are best for use time.
Check the Suppliers link above, any of the US suppliers are good. Their prices are all pretty close to each other.
Good luck with your new Hobby
(it becomes one after your hooked)
To be honest, it totally depends. If you keep the atomizer moist, and never let it run dry.. it should last you a long time. I have had some that worked great for a week and died on me, and others that have lasted me months.
If you do the initial charge correctly, a fully-charged battery should last you between 1 and 2 days, depending on how much you use the device. In my personal experience.. I use mine very often, and I get at least a full day from a full charge.
I would recommend getting an extra atomizer with any starter kit you buy, just because there is a learning curve associated with vaping, and you will more than likely be going through at least one atomizer in your first month.
Hope that helped, and good luck!
the life span of these things can be measured its just that know one wants to..
atomizers wear out.. batteries wear out... i know how quickly we wear them out but aint goinna say.. just bear in mind people that sell them kinda look on the bright side for obvious reasons..
if u really are a broke ... student and vaguely resemble a heavy smoker they will cost i u more than u think they will..
a young healthy broke ... student has a whole lifetime to give up the weed.. it took me forty odd years.. the joy with e smoking is u can do it when u want to.. for some there is no rush..
trog
atomizers wear out.. batteries wear out... i know how quickly we wear them out but aint goinna say.. just bear in mind people that sell them kinda look on the bright side for obvious reasons..
if u really are a broke ... student and vaguely resemble a heavy smoker they will cost i u more than u think they will..
a young healthy broke ... student has a whole lifetime to give up the weed.. it took me forty odd years.. the joy with e smoking is u can do it when u want to.. for some there is no rush..
trog
No freaking way a 901 atomizer lasts more than a couple hours of heavy use, or maybe 4-5 hours moderate use. All day? For a pack a week smoker maybe. Not for a pack a day smoker.
I use a penstyle and, except for battery life, I am pretty happy with that. Many have had atomizer problems. Me? I kill batteries just by looking at them, while my atomizers live on....
My limited experience with suppliers of these things is that they have really good customer service. A word of advice, though: some cost a little more, but perhaps they offer a longer warranty. Considering how these things fail, you may want to go for that. I started with cheaper and no warranty, but have since decided that a warranty is what I warranted.... I am personally spending more with this than with real cigarettes, but I have gone a bit crazy with juice and devices - and I live in a place where a pack of smokes costs $3.
Get yourself some juice with your first purchase, and an extra battery and atomizer, if you can. You normally get two batteries with your kit, but you want to have some spares in case things go wrong and you have to get yourself replacements.
Good luck to you and your friends. To begin with, e-moking may be a bit rocky, but do not give up right away. Do not expect this to be like cigarettes, though, because they are not. I still allow myself 2 cigs a day (from 22), but many here have quit entirely.
My limited experience with suppliers of these things is that they have really good customer service. A word of advice, though: some cost a little more, but perhaps they offer a longer warranty. Considering how these things fail, you may want to go for that. I started with cheaper and no warranty, but have since decided that a warranty is what I warranted.... I am personally spending more with this than with real cigarettes, but I have gone a bit crazy with juice and devices - and I live in a place where a pack of smokes costs $3.
Get yourself some juice with your first purchase, and an extra battery and atomizer, if you can. You normally get two batteries with your kit, but you want to have some spares in case things go wrong and you have to get yourself replacements.
Good luck to you and your friends. To begin with, e-moking may be a bit rocky, but do not give up right away. Do not expect this to be like cigarettes, though, because they are not. I still allow myself 2 cigs a day (from 22), but many here have quit entirely.
That's not typical of the experiences we usually hear about on the forum. The only way this could be the case is if you have some special, super duper batteries or if you're a very light user.
What batteries do you use and how many ml do you vape per day (moderate use is around 2ml)?
thanks for all the advice guys! I'll be sure to relay all the stuff you guys told me to them. I also had one more question, when I started smoking cigs I noticed that I slowed down athletic wise, and my work capacity went through the floor (I'm an Olympic weightlifter), does e-smoking "slow" you down at all? I was thinking about the penstyle but the bigger size doesn't appeal to us. also are there cheaper generic models out there that are known to be just as good as the 901? And I may be young but according to my pulmonary function test I'm borderline obstructive disease . I'm already down to maximum 3 sticks a day I mostly breathe 2 sticks a day right now. One of my friends has gone cold turkey for a month but still wants in on this, REALLY bad. Thanks again guys for being so helpful!
. I'm already down to maximum 3 sticks a day I mostly breathe 2 sticks a day right now. One of my friends has gone cold turkey for a month but still wants in on this, REALLY bad. Thanks again guys for being so helpful!
I would say it will be better for you then now.
"Shouldnt" slow you down in anyway.
Its Fog juice, flavoring and nicotine, basicly thats it.
No tar, or other crud.
Your body may need to get used to the lack of smokes, short term you may see something, but it will be nothing.
Cheaper "Generic" models, sometimes called "Health" brand, are basicly Crap.
If you get one of those, they eather die quick, or just dont work, and will end up costing you more then they are worth.
Check out the review videos in here, for a better idea of each.
the 801 (Pen) and the 901 (Mini) are the 2 favorites of the Forum for a good smoke.
There is also a couple smaller ones, more cigarete like, a 401, and a white one.
Smaller can be fine, just the batteries need recharging more, and the carts will need to be refilled more.
You mainly need to decide how they are going to be used, once in a while, or when playing cards, or all day when you need to.
"Shouldnt" slow you down in anyway.
Its Fog juice, flavoring and nicotine, basicly thats it.
No tar, or other crud.
Your body may need to get used to the lack of smokes, short term you may see something, but it will be nothing.
Cheaper "Generic" models, sometimes called "Health" brand, are basicly Crap.
If you get one of those, they eather die quick, or just dont work, and will end up costing you more then they are worth.
Check out the review videos in here, for a better idea of each.
the 801 (Pen) and the 901 (Mini) are the 2 favorites of the Forum for a good smoke.
There is also a couple smaller ones, more cigarete like, a 401, and a white one.
Smaller can be fine, just the batteries need recharging more, and the carts will need to be refilled more.
You mainly need to decide how they are going to be used, once in a while, or when playing cards, or all day when you need to.
1. You really need to quit inhaling cigarettes. You will see a near-immediate improvement in lung function. And it sounds as if you have a genetic proclivity to COPD. My God, stop smoking!
2. Cheap will not be cheap in the long run. Follow the advice here and get a 901 or quality pen style. Forget the stupid "bling" aspect of e-smoking, unless you're the type who intends to marry a woman solely on the basis of her physical beauty. Very shallow. Find quality and embrace it. In people, in products.
3. A charged battery lasts me about two hours; four if I don't use it quite so often. No e-cig battery I've encountered lasts all day. E-pipe, yes. E-cig, are you kidding?
4. Maintainance is a very big deal. These aren't light 'em and toss 'em devices. Get ready to commit to a new way of getting your fix.
5. Read everything in the alternatives to cigarettes part of this forum, and see if other nicotine methods can supplement e-smoking. Personally, I use them all.
2. Cheap will not be cheap in the long run. Follow the advice here and get a 901 or quality pen style. Forget the stupid "bling" aspect of e-smoking, unless you're the type who intends to marry a woman solely on the basis of her physical beauty. Very shallow. Find quality and embrace it. In people, in products.
3. A charged battery lasts me about two hours; four if I don't use it quite so often. No e-cig battery I've encountered lasts all day. E-pipe, yes. E-cig, are you kidding?
4. Maintainance is a very big deal. These aren't light 'em and toss 'em devices. Get ready to commit to a new way of getting your fix.
5. Read everything in the alternatives to cigarettes part of this forum, and see if other nicotine methods can supplement e-smoking. Personally, I use them all.
Liberate - From looking at your site the mini that you sell is a 901 correct? Do you have some sort of new battery for the 901 that none of the other suppliers have? I have been vaping for 6 weeks now with a 901 and rotate between 4 batteries, each of which lasts me 30 mins to an hour now. After the first full charge when i bought them 6 weeks ago they lasted about 4 hours. If it is a 901 and you don't have some hot new batteries that we don't know about then I feel that your misrepresentation to a new user on this forum is well....crappy. If that's the case you're really giving the other suppliers around here a bad name as so many of them work very hard to represent their products fairly and honestly. It is this kind of thing that will drive away users rather than pull them in.
Now, all that being said...if this isn't a 901 or some other common e-cig or if you do have some sort of new technology then I profusely apologize and retract any statements.
Now, all that being said...if this isn't a 901 or some other common e-cig or if you do have some sort of new technology then I profusely apologize and retract any statements.
Wow, are you guys serious? I have even brought my mini (yes, a 901) to parties, had other people constantly using it, and still managed to use it (albeit briefly) the next day. I have had similar luck with my Jr's.. Maybe I just got some gifted batteries? Or perhaps I don't vape as much as I think I do..
I guess if someone was doing double the vaping, they would get half the battery life.. I am just giving my personal experience. I would welcome anyone in the area to spend a day with me to see that I am speaking truthfully.. and if you look at any of my other posts here, you will see that I am an honest person.
I guess if someone was doing double the vaping, they would get half the battery life.. I am just giving my personal experience. I would welcome anyone in the area to spend a day with me to see that I am speaking truthfully.. and if you look at any of my other posts here, you will see that I am an honest person.
I would say you're vaping pretty lightly, because a 901 battery is good for about 7 cigarettes worth or so.
That makes me feel a whole lot better.. haha. I was thinking that if anything, I now vape more often than I used to "smoke" analogs.. and I was at about a pack and a half per day. I would say that IMO, it does last longer than 7 analogs.. But there are some people that are getting 30 min from their batts here.. maybe I am just a lucky one? I switched over to my Jr. about a month ago, and that was only because my 901 batts died on me. One met an unfortunate demise in the sink, and something wacky went wrong with the other one.
thanks everyone for your concern about my health, right now I'm on the lozenges and its helping somewhat. but it really doesn't help with the habit, I was thinking I can stick to my lozenges and smoke the zero nicotine juice. I really want to get my girlfriend and my friends to quit as well. I putting my purchase on priority but I am still shopping around. Right now its a toss up between puresmoker and liberate's website. And to liberate: your section on ordering extra parts seems to be down I was wondering what is your price for an extra atomizer for the penstyle I am thinking I'm gonna need that extra battery life. If anyone wants to throw in any words of wisdom please do, I really appreciate it!
I would suggest going with a supplier that has a long and strong reputation. Read the reviews, if they have any. Also price is a consideration. The best would be a great proven reputation at a less expensive price. Lucky for you that option does exist. I cannot vouch for Liberate since I have not ordered there. However I can highly recommend PureSmoker. Hope that helps.
Ainako: Virtually everything offered as NRT has a real-world tobacco counterpart. If lozenges work well for you, then Stonewall dissolvable tobacco bits are right up your alley. They work exactly the same way, at the same nicotine strength.
I use the Java flavor and order them in bulk. A Stonewall is the FIRST thing I do each morning, even before reaching for my e-cig. Each tablet has 4mg of nicotine. Given the rate at which it dissolves and is absorbed, this is like two or three cigs an hour. Very close to real experiences with cigarettes in terms of your nicotine blood level. Need more nicotine? Dissolve two at a time. But be careful not to overdose.
The pricing is not even close. Stonewall is much, much cheaper. And note that America's Big Tobacco will offer its own branded variety of dissolvables after the 1st of the year. A flood of tobacco-based alternatives to cigarettes is coming to market then. They're inexpensive -- and effective.
Good luck with e-smoking. I wouldn't part with my e-smoking devices, though. I just need to supplement what they do.
I use the Java flavor and order them in bulk. A Stonewall is the FIRST thing I do each morning, even before reaching for my e-cig. Each tablet has 4mg of nicotine. Given the rate at which it dissolves and is absorbed, this is like two or three cigs an hour. Very close to real experiences with cigarettes in terms of your nicotine blood level. Need more nicotine? Dissolve two at a time. But be careful not to overdose.
The pricing is not even close. Stonewall is much, much cheaper. And note that America's Big Tobacco will offer its own branded variety of dissolvables after the 1st of the year. A flood of tobacco-based alternatives to cigarettes is coming to market then. They're inexpensive -- and effective.
Good luck with e-smoking. I wouldn't part with my e-smoking devices, though. I just need to supplement what they do.
a 901 or mini type battery has a real life run time of around ten minutes..
ten minutes.. count your actual puffing time in seconds... divide each puff into ten minutes..
this is hard fact stuff not pot luck guess work.. as i said earlier it can all be worked out..
leaford i think uses five seconds puffs..
and this is with a brand new battery.. so in the real world two puffs per hour might last two days.. four puffs per hour might last one day..
80 puffs per hour might last one hour.. it can all be worked out...
and nobody has a magic battery.. they are all roughly the same.. perhaps a 20% variation between the best and the worse of a given size...
there is no need to use vagaries like "in my experience"... or magic batteries.. its all there for those that want to look for it..
trog
ten minutes.. count your actual puffing time in seconds... divide each puff into ten minutes..
this is hard fact stuff not pot luck guess work.. as i said earlier it can all be worked out..
leaford i think uses five seconds puffs..
and this is with a brand new battery.. so in the real world two puffs per hour might last two days.. four puffs per hour might last one day..
80 puffs per hour might last one hour.. it can all be worked out...
and nobody has a magic battery.. they are all roughly the same.. perhaps a 20% variation between the best and the worse of a given size...
there is no need to use vagaries like "in my experience"... or magic batteries.. its all there for those that want to look for it..
trog
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