New charger. Charging overnight

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Mr. Relentless

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They say in the instructions not to. In all reality you can, it has overcharge protection. I charge mine over night every day on a efest luc v6. Any lithium iion or lithium polymer battery or charger will tell you not to no matter how good they are just to cover there butts. Smoke detector for sure near by. Make a fire proof box for it if your worried.
 

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They say in the instructions not to. In all reality you can, it has overcharge protection. I charge mine over night every day on a efest luc v6. Any lithium iion or lithium polymer battery or charger will tell you not to no matter how good they are just to cover there butts. Smoke detector for sure near by. Make a fire proof box for it if your worried.
I appreciate the help. I will go and maybe charge it during the morning hours. And if not charged all the way. I will take off charge and then come home later and charge the rest of the way.
 

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I charge them overnight sometimes and keep the charger on a ceramic tile.

Just don't leave them charging if you are not at home, there is some minor risk involved. Just use common sense and you will be fine. Put the charger on a non flammable surface a ceramic tile is good for that.
 

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I don't charge overnight. Plenty of people who do. Your charger manual and everything you will ever read concerning battery safety will tell you not to charge unattended.

The safer solution? ... Batteries aren't that expensive, buy a couple of extra batteries or as many as you need so unattended overnight charging isn't even an issue.
 

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I appreciate the help. I will go and maybe charge it during the morning hours. And if not charged all the way. I will take off charge and then come home later and charge the rest of the way.
You'll get comfortable with it. I have 6 sets of batteries and mine will be forgotten in the charger for over a day sometimes.
 

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I charge them overnight sometimes and keep the charger on a ceramic tile.

Just don't leave them charging if you are not at home, there is some minor risk involved. Just use common sense and you will be fine. Put the charger on a non flammable surface a ceramic tile is good for that.
I have my charger sitting on top of a mini fridge that should work. And ow yeah I would never leave my house with them charging.
 

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Like most of the vets here, I never charge when I'm away from home. And contrary to typical safe battery practices, I have and still do overnight charging (do as I say, not as I do). Although I am well aware that electrical devices can fail at any time, I use one of the top-rated chargers which sits on a non-flamable surface.
 

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I have top rated mods, batteries, chargers, smoke detectors, fire extinguishers and home owners insurance ... still don't charge unattended overnight. Maybe I could sit the charger in the sink or stove top or top of the refrigerator !!! ... nah, the charger is still connected to wiring in the house regardless of where it's located. The risk is small, the potential loss if anything should happen ... not so small. Buy a couple of more batteries so you don't need to charge unattended overnight.
 

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All that said, guess what? ... I have a battery powered Dyson V8 cordless stick vac that lives in a wall mounted docking station with charger, a battery powered laptop that lives in a docking station/charger overnight, and I understand a bit of frustration with people like myself who refuse to charge vape device batteries unattended overnight. In addition to devices I mentioned, many charge cell phones, iPads and android devices on a charging station overnight ... maybe even hooked up to an extension cord. Not exactly sure why I feel that vape batteries are any different from the batteries in those devices, except those devices didn't come with warnings not to charge unattended overnight ... and in light of the specific warnings for vape batteries and chargers, I can't tell you it's perfectly fine to charge batteries unattended. There is a small risk.
 
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I’ll charge overnight if I need to but I don’t leave the house when they are charging, unless it’s a 5 minute trip to the gas station or similar. Anyway a good way to alleviate some stress is to build a fireproof box to charge in. A perfect solution is to go to an army surplus or check online to get a metal ammo can. Drill a hole to feed the cord through and hookup the charger. Clean up the drill hole so as not to cause damage to the cord and lock the top after you get setup and charging. Even if there is a catastrophic failure the box will contain it and prevent a house fire. The only downside is if your charger & batteries get hot when charging the inside of the ammo can will exacerbate the heat buildup. Just get the biggest can you can to help facilitate the heat dissipation and you will have nothing to worry about charging overnight.
 
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I wouldn't do it on a brand new charger with brand new batteries. Once they've gone a cycle or three the uncertainty goes away. A known good charger can usually be trusted to charge a known good battery without trouble.

People charge their hybrid/electric cars overnight...
 

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It's not really recommended, but I do not recommended things all the time. I don't usually charge overnight though, as I have enough batteries to not need to do so. If you can get that going, it is probably slightly safer than charging overnight if you can.

I don't like the idea of my house catching fire.... Oh wait, it already did, my husband managed to get a lit cigarette under the house. He (and the fire dept) were able to extinguish it, but let me tell you, living as a person who had to flit from rental home to hotel and whatever, until we were able to get back in the house a year later... Not so fun. Nor is UNPACKING all of our stuff (still working on it, LOL) so I tend to be more cautious about things these days. It would have been EVEN WORSE if all our stuff went up in flames. Homeowners insurance is a mysterious tangle that takes FOREVER to sort out.

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I don't normally charge overnight but I have on occasion. I have plenty of batteries but every once in awhile I end up with several uncharged and then have resorted to charging overnight. These are batteries that have been charged multiple times in the same charger without even getting warm. Yes there is a small risk but I am home and I do wake up easily.

That said what is the definition of "unattended"? I don't sit around and watch them charge, I am home but I go ahead and do other things, I don't even stay in the same room with them most of the time. I do check on new batteries or even older batteries charging at intervals.

I usually charge them in the evening once I get in for the day. They are normally long finished charging by bedtime. I have at times partially charged them, checked them before going to bed and unplugged them and left them in the charger. Then plugging it back in in the morning to finish. But on the other hand I have just let it go overnight.
 

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We talk a lot about whether it's safe to charge things unattended, but a related issue that rarely comes up is "what would you do if you were there and something did catch fire?" Hopefully you'd be able to stop the fire spreading, but it would be much easier to deal with a problem if you happen to have a fire extinguisher. Or, more importantly, a fire extinguisher that works on combustible metals.

Most household fire extinguishers (in North America) are rated ABC. For a battery fire, you'd need a 'D' rated extinguisher.

And that's my public service announcement of the moment. Please excuse me, some vapemail just arrived from China.
 

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We talk a lot about whether it's safe to charge things unattended, but a related issue that rarely comes up is "what would you do if you were there and something did catch fire?"

I often think about this. My house in insured, but my family (and pet) are easy to get out should the worst happen. Our house has doors and my mod has two batteries to last a day. :)
 
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