New dripper, LOADS of vapor, NO flavor.

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edyle

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you need to double the wattage for that coil.

I've got 2ohm 28 gauge single coils running at that wattage;
you have two 2 ohm 28 gauge coils working out to a 1ohm dual coil so you need twice the wattage.

what wattage are you using on that build ?

your pic shows 13w on your mod

as said above you will need to double that if thats the case

Omg, you guys are awesome! It's been so long since I've vaped dual coils that I completely forgot about this. I am getting some OK flavor now @ 26w, but it could be better, and it is a little too warm for my taste. Also, I think I need to lower to 4mg if I keep using this RDA. 7mg was fine for my Lemo Drop, but this is killing me. lol
 

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Consider trying twisted kanthal. The flavor gain can be pretty significant.

Most complex wires and builds are pretty, but nothing special in terms of performance.
You can get just as much flavor from a properly built standard coil.


Parallel coils, however are extremely efficient and do step it up a notch.
 

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Most complex wires and builds are pretty, but nothing special in terms of performance.
You can get just as much flavor from a properly built standard coil.


Parallel coils, however are extremely efficient and do step it up a notch.
I beg to differ on a couple points. I wouldn't consider a twisted build "complex", but if so, it's less complex than a parallel build (much easier to wrap, for instance). To compare the two, they use roughly the same amount of wire and thus have similar resistance; parallel coils have more direct contact with the wick (which is good); twisted coils have more space for juice to seep into and vaporize (also good); it's really 6 and 1/2 dozen between the two. I prefer twisted, many prefer parallel.

My other point is yes, a properly built standard coil can be great, but I'll take a bold stance and say a properly built twisted (or even parallel) coil will markedly improve flavor for a significant amount of people; not just perceived or imagined, but actual. The atomizer plays a part in this too, of course. Some coil sizes and styles work better in some than others.
 

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I beg to differ on a couple points. I wouldn't consider a twisted build "complex", but if so, it's less complex than a parallel build (much easier to wrap, for instance). To compare the two, they use roughly the same amount of wire and thus have similar resistance; parallel coils have more direct contact with the wick (which is good); twisted coils have more space for juice to seep into and vaporize (also good); it's really 6 and 1/2 dozen between the two. I prefer twisted, many prefer parallel.

My other point is yes, a properly built standard coil can be great, but I'll take a bold stance and say a properly built twisted (or even parallel) coil will markedly improve flavor for a significant amount of people; not just perceived or imagined, but actual. The atomizer plays a part in this too, of course. Some coil sizes and styles work better in some than others.
Semantics.
I've never found an advantage to twisted, Claptons etc.
I can build a standard coil that will perform just as well if not better in most atomizers.
The exception is parallel coils, which are more efficient than standard coils and show a noticeable difference in performance.
 

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Semantics.
I've never found an advantage to twisted, Claptons etc.
I can build a standard coil that will perform just as well if not better in most atomizers.
The exception is parallel coils, which are more efficient than standard coils and show a noticeable difference in performance.
Parallel coils as in 2 wires in each coil?
 

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Semantics.
I've never found an advantage to twisted, Claptons etc.
I can build a standard coil that will perform just as well if not better in most atomizers.
The exception is parallel coils, which are more efficient than standard coils and show a noticeable difference in performance.
Well, we can agree to sort of disagree...I feel the same about claptons and other fancy builds. Too much wire, time consuming to build, and a definite power drain compared to more basic builds. My opinion is my own; others swear by them as you and I both know. I will stand fast on simple twisted coils though, in many applications. I also rock plenty of standard and parallel builds. My whole point is try it all and find what does it for you.
 
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So I rebuilt on 3mm coils, 10 wraps with the Scottish Roll wicking method. Holy hell. 1.2ohm at 30w and it has AMAZING flavor. I have never tasted this juice this well, and I've been vaping it for a couple years now. Thanks to everyone in this thread. :)
Ahh the Scottish roll wick. I figured out that I had been making that type of wick before I had even heard of the Scottish roll wick. Just an aligned fiber coil with the fibers not too tightly compressed together. Nice even fiber spacing thru the wick. You can vape em pretty much dry before you get any burned taste at all. Kind of a no dry hit wick ;)
I use them in my little 2mm kanger coils.
 

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With less airflow, you are sucking more heat into your lungs. Heat also can mute the flavor as it can potentially engulf the inside of your mouth, and you won't taste the vapor.

Also, the type of coil that you are using makes a huge difference. I get way better flavor from clapton coils than I do micro/macro coils. Wattage is also another huge issue to this.

Back to my main statement, ensure that the vape isn't too hot, or your flavor will only get more muted and more muted on a day to day basis.
 

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Omg, you guys are awesome! It's been so long since I've vaped dual coils that I completely forgot about this. I am getting some OK flavor now @ 26w, but it could be better, and it is a little too warm for my taste. Also, I think I need to lower to 4mg if I keep using this RDA. 7mg was fine for my Lemo Drop, but this is killing me. lol

Anytime you double the wattage you need to half the mg nicotine strength.
 

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I beg to differ on a couple points. I wouldn't consider a twisted build "complex", but if so, it's less complex than a parallel build (much easier to wrap, for instance). To compare the two, they use roughly the same amount of wire and thus have similar resistance; parallel coils have more direct contact with the wick (which is good); twisted coils have more space for juice to seep into and vaporize (also good); it's really 6 and 1/2 dozen between the two. I prefer twisted, many prefer parallel.

My other point is yes, a properly built standard coil can be great, but I'll take a bold stance and say a properly built twisted (or even parallel) coil will markedly improve flavor for a significant amount of people; not just perceived or imagined, but actual. The atomizer plays a part in this too, of course. Some coil sizes and styles work better in some than others.

yes; a twisted single coil, of the same electrical, wrapnumber, ID numbers as a solidcore single coil is the same coil but with more exposed surface area; it's going to be more efficient, in the same way that ribbon wire is more efficient.
 
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