New hardware building advice.

[Simpdogg]

So I have only ever used mech mods, decided to jump ship to the sigelei 100w box mod, loving it. But I need some advice on pushing this thing.

I have a mutation X for RDA and a kayfun for RBA, my kayfun is great no help needed there as its my all day vape, sometimes I like to throw on my RDA in the evenings. With my Mech I used to run dual 26g microcoils 6-7 wraps comming out at like 0.35ohms which I had great flavour and decent clouds.

I know box mods open up whole new possibilitys. So if my build my normal type mutation x dual coils and set it to steady 4.2 volts (around 50 watts) its a great vape. Any higher it insta tastes burnt.

So the advice my local shop gave me was to build the largest coil I could that fit into my mutation x so I could cram a ton of cotton in there then and build a little higher 0.8-1ohm and pump up the wattage.. So I did just that, I build a coil around a regular screw driver size in diameter and filled it full of cotton.. Hit 0.6ohm pushing it at 80 wats to reach 7 volts. There was no burnt taste, it did distort the flavour a bit.. but still not as much vapor as my regular build.

I'm not normally a huge cloud chaser but since I got this box I just wanna try out the limits of this device.. so any recommendations to get some hugge clouds as dual ciol build? gauge size? wattage etc? what ever works best for you let me know.

PS I know people will prob say higher VG, but I already vape pure VG a lot of times without nic or flavouring as well.

 

[Ryedan]

So the advice my local shop gave me was to build the largest coil I could that fit into my mutation x so I could cram a ton of cotton in there then and build a little higher 0.8-1ohm and pump up the wattage.. So I did just that, I build a coil around a regular screw driver size in diameter and filled it full of cotton.. Hit 0.6ohm pushing it at 80 wats to reach 7 volts. There was no burnt taste, it did distort the flavour a bit.. but still not as much vapor as my regular build.

Just how much cotton is 'a ton of cotton'? You want to leave all the outside of the coil with no cotton on it. Any place you have cotton on the outside is coil that will not produce vapor.

 

[Simpdogg]

by a ton of cotton I mean I only normally make micro-coils, I made a fat coil and filled it with the same ratio of cotton to coil as my micro-coils.. I guess enough? Obviously the bigger the hole the more cotton you need to feel it, I guess I don't know how to explain myself perfectly sorry.

 

[Simpdogg]

Sorry let me clerify one more time, I'm not comming here asking.. please tell me how to max out my mod cause I need to use 100W of power!.. I'm asking for advice on how I can potentially blow some bigger clouds on a device that has 100W capabilities compared to all my old Mech Mods which i'm used to. Doesn't matter if the build ends up being 20w/50w/75w or 100, I just want some try some new type of builds as I have always stuck with micro-coils on my mech.. get good clouds and decent flavour.. but have tried/seem better from people running these VW devices.

 

[Ryedan]

by a ton of cotton I mean I only normally make micro-coils, I made a fat coil and filled it with the same ratio of cotton to coil as my micro-coils.. I guess enough? Obviously the bigger the hole the more cotton you need to feel it, I guess I don't know how to explain myself perfectly sorry.

Got it and sounds like you're on the right path . I was just concerned you were laying cotton under the coils too and that was restricting vapor production.

I don't have a high power regulated mod. I use a Mutation X with dual coils and 24 gauge Kanthal, 3mm inside diameter and 5/4 wraps at around 0.2 ohms on a mech mod, so around 60 watts (after voltage drop) with a fully charged battery. I can vape that with only 6 of 18 air holes open and it's still a cool vape. I would imagine at 100 watts with all the air holes open and you taking fast lung hits it would make A LOT of vapor, but I don't know how hot it would vape. I would imagine with a couple more wraps and higher resistance it would be just fine at 100 watts. The Steam Engine coil wrapping calculator can really help with this.

 

[rhelton]

Looks like you have plenty of help here. Ill just add this, you have a high wattage device. Use some wire with higher resistance like some 28 guage, or 28 guage twisted and build to about 1.5 ohm's on a dual build. Crank the watts up and enjoy. .

Your headed in the right direction my friend