[FONT=Calibri, sans-serif]Hey long story short I'm trying to quit smokeless tobacco. I still need the nicotine fix because when I smoke I no longer crave the dip. Which is why I'm thinking about vapes. I really like the taste of some and I just think it's super cool to be able to rip some crazy clouds. I'm looking for something that will last me a long time where I can use it to quit but also use it as a recreational thing, Ill smoke out in public when I'm with friends but I'll only take small puffs just to be courteous to people around me who don't want a big cloud around them. I like the way the clouds look when they come out big and crazy though. I was thinking maybe the Vaporfi Rebel or maybe preordering the other mod they have? I'm not sure what the difference is. I've smoked an ameravape manhattan which my friends let me use. But I think it's a clone considering she got a whole setup for 130 bucks. I really like the mods just cause there's so much going on with them. I'm not sure what to buy though. Any help would be appreciated thanks![/FONT]
New here, new to vapes, old chewer
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Okay I'll say it since no one else has. Slow down grasshopper. lol
I understand wanting to "rip some crazy clouds" but that requires a lot of work and knowledge to do it safely. I think in order for anyone to make a recommendation we would need to know exactly where you are with vaping. Are you already vaping? If so, what set up are you using now? What are you looking for in a mod? Other than just big clouds.
I understand wanting to "rip some crazy clouds" but that requires a lot of work and knowledge to do it safely. I think in order for anyone to make a recommendation we would need to know exactly where you are with vaping. Are you already vaping? If so, what set up are you using now? What are you looking for in a mod? Other than just big clouds.
Looks like I'll have to chime in on this one since I am one of the few ex-chewers on the forum. I think we may have more difficulty quitting than ex-smokers because there aren't all of the benefits that ex-smokers get (increased lung function, enhanced taste, enhanced smell etc.) from quitting. This isn't to say that it is easy for them...just that they actually have physiological benefits that we do not get. It can be done, however. Sure, it takes a few days to get over that "itchy lip" syndrome, but once you do, vaping really works well. I've been nearly 10 months of the chew. The day I bought my first ego and clearomizer was the last chew I've had. Anyway, I think the trick is - since we don't get all of the perks from quitting - to get something you really like right off the bat.
I've always been more of a flavor chaser than a cloud chaser, but I've been getting a bit of both from my Kayfun on a MVP v2. Kayfuns seem to be in their "sweet spot" right around 1.3 - 1.8 ohms, so no need to go sub ohm. It produces some of the best flavor I've had and while I may not be blowing sub ohm RDA clouds, my other vaping friends make fun of me for "changing the weather patterns" with my clouds. I seriously cannot imagine needing more vapor unless you are just trying to show off (which isn't such a bad thing). There's nothing wrong with dripping and blowing nimbulus type clouds as long as you are educated enough to do it safely, but IMO, it is really nothing more than a novelty...IOW, fun, but not necessary.
I've always been more of a flavor chaser than a cloud chaser, but I've been getting a bit of both from my Kayfun on a MVP v2. Kayfuns seem to be in their "sweet spot" right around 1.3 - 1.8 ohms, so no need to go sub ohm. It produces some of the best flavor I've had and while I may not be blowing sub ohm RDA clouds, my other vaping friends make fun of me for "changing the weather patterns" with my clouds. I seriously cannot imagine needing more vapor unless you are just trying to show off (which isn't such a bad thing). There's nothing wrong with dripping and blowing nimbulus type clouds as long as you are educated enough to do it safely, but IMO, it is really nothing more than a novelty...IOW, fun, but not necessary.
Haha I know I still have to educate myself a bit more on all of this. I want to "rip crazy clouds" but like you said safely and with knowledge. I am a vaping novice, I do not own anything. I use my friends spares which are usually what they tell me mods. What are they and what do they have on them, no idea. Like I said I like big clouds, taste is another big one for me, as for other things I'm looking for in a mod, what other things are there to be looked for? Like I said I'm a complete novice and just need help haha
Ya like whenever I vape with friends I no longer have the urge to chew. I still stick a piece of wintergreen gum in my lip just because I'm so used to having something there haha. What are ohms by the way? Like I said I'm a novice at vaping. I'll look into the MVP v2 Kayfun. Taste is also a big thing for me. Copenhagen wintergreen was my stuff cause it tasted like gum with tobacco
You want to do some reading here on the forum.
"Mod" is an overused term. Most likely what your friends let you use is a "mech mod" - a tube-shaped device with a fire button on either the bottom or the side. It's basically a powerful flashlight, with an atomiser instead of a light bulb. Mech mods are probably not the best thing to start with; you really need to learn about battery safety, coil-building, wicking, etc. to get it right.
Personally, I would recommend an Innokin MVP to start with. This is a "regulated mod"; while it may not be the platform for the biggest clouds, it can provide a very good vape with many heads.
Once you are more familiar with the equipment and the other issues, you could consider a mech mod and dripper. But I wouldn't recommend you start there, you would probably find it frustrating at best, and could really injure yourself at worst.
"Mod" is an overused term. Most likely what your friends let you use is a "mech mod" - a tube-shaped device with a fire button on either the bottom or the side. It's basically a powerful flashlight, with an atomiser instead of a light bulb. Mech mods are probably not the best thing to start with; you really need to learn about battery safety, coil-building, wicking, etc. to get it right.
Personally, I would recommend an Innokin MVP to start with. This is a "regulated mod"; while it may not be the platform for the biggest clouds, it can provide a very good vape with many heads.
Once you are more familiar with the equipment and the other issues, you could consider a mech mod and dripper. But I wouldn't recommend you start there, you would probably find it frustrating at best, and could really injure yourself at worst.
I quit chewing with a ego ctwist and kanger (cheap looks like a syringe) tank.
At that time I really started researching and educating myself. For me I thought I would get a bennifit with a rebuildable atomizer. That evolved and because of the size and cost I went from ego twist type batteries to mechanical mods.
It's all a very personal choice what tools you prefer. No one can tell you what will work best for you. As far as "ripping huge clouds" that almost certainly will require a rebuildable atomizer. There's lots to choose from and it can be a little daunting. Start checking YouTube and the forums here to get some ideas of what will meet your requirements.
Good luck. Enjoy the spitless lifestyle change.
At that time I really started researching and educating myself. For me I thought I would get a bennifit with a rebuildable atomizer. That evolved and because of the size and cost I went from ego twist type batteries to mechanical mods.
It's all a very personal choice what tools you prefer. No one can tell you what will work best for you. As far as "ripping huge clouds" that almost certainly will require a rebuildable atomizer. There's lots to choose from and it can be a little daunting. Start checking YouTube and the forums here to get some ideas of what will meet your requirements.
Good luck. Enjoy the spitless lifestyle change.
Start with an mvp then move to a reo would be my advice. safety to learn more, then one off the best devices on the market. Both have flexibility, and both are some of the most favored mods on the market.
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I see everyone recommends the MVP v2.0 is there a reason for that? What's the difference between the pen and the box? So what is a rebuild able atomizer? I know an atomizer is the part that turns it into vapor but what part do you rebuild? I just found a link to tell me which atomizer to use for what. Would I be able to change atomizers in the MVP ? What is an Atomizer for Electronic Cigarettes? there's the link would I need one for more flavor and another for bigger clouds?
Mvp is a,superior battery. For the price there is nothing like it. It is variable voltage and variable wattage. (which is nice to change the amount of power that runs through the coils until you learn to build different resistence coils. The different watts/volts affects taste and vapor production.
Rbas are rebuildable atomizers. You make the coil and wick that you use to vape with. They are generally accepted to, make better taste and more vapor. A kayfun is an rda (one of the better ones).
Rdas are rebuildable dripping atomizer..similar to rbas but no tank to hold juice..you drip onto the coils directly... More vapor production and arguably more taste.
Yes the mvp can take different types of atomizers. It has both ego and 510 threads so it can take the majority of atomizers on the market. Its regulated so its safe. You wont blow yourself up. Its got a huge battery life. It has a pass through charging system meaning you can vape while you charge it, and it can be used as a power bank to charge other electronic devices. its, what you need whether you buy it first or fifteenth. After you learn more, using the mvp as,a tool you can get into mechanicals but you are not ready yet.
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Rbas are rebuildable atomizers. You make the coil and wick that you use to vape with. They are generally accepted to, make better taste and more vapor. A kayfun is an rda (one of the better ones).
Rdas are rebuildable dripping atomizer..similar to rbas but no tank to hold juice..you drip onto the coils directly... More vapor production and arguably more taste.
Yes the mvp can take different types of atomizers. It has both ego and 510 threads so it can take the majority of atomizers on the market. Its regulated so its safe. You wont blow yourself up. Its got a huge battery life. It has a pass through charging system meaning you can vape while you charge it, and it can be used as a power bank to charge other electronic devices. its, what you need whether you buy it first or fifteenth. After you learn more, using the mvp as,a tool you can get into mechanicals but you are not ready yet.
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You don't ask too many questions..just takes a while to respond on my phone.
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The Pen is the Innokin VV V3. The Box is the MVP. Both have the same features (ohm reader, variable-voltage/variable wattage, pass-thru, and the (useless IMHO) puff counter. The MVP lasts a LOT longer on a charge, usually 2-3 days depending on how much you vape, while you can easily go through a VV in half a day if you try.
Both of these have what's called "510/ego threading". This means they can accept any head with either a 510 or ego connection (which is pretty much any head on the market these days). Most vaporizers have this except for the mech mods, which are usually just 510 threaded.
WanderingSoul answered the rest of what you asked, so I won't repeat it except to say again that the MVP is a fantastic mod; I have 2 and have vaped on little else for quite a while.
Another question where should I buy the MVP from where I'll get a good deal? And this has a cartomizer right? So you just put the juice and you're set. The one I used you had to drip the juice on cotton and then it would vape. Also you guys convinced me into the MVP haha so should I just stick with the atomizer it has or would you guys recommend a different one? I really appreciate this guys
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101vape.com has a very good price.
Innokin iTaste MVP V2.0 - 101 Vape
It does come with a clearo, the iClear30. It's not my favorite, though. The iclear30 is a top-coil clearomizer, which has long wicks. Most people prefer the bottom-coil clearos, like the EVOD. I've heard good things about the Kanger T3S but never owned one.
A cartomizer is what you described; kind of like a cigarette filter in a metal tube. You drip the juice onto the cotton filler.
A clearomizer is different, it's a tank that gets filled with liquid; there are wicks that transport the liquid to the coil. The iClear30 is a clearomizer (or clearo).
As far as heads go, I may not be the best person to ask. I really like the H2 clearomizers; you can get them for about $3 each on e-bay or for about $1.50 from Fasttech. Fasttech is in china though, so it can take several weeks to get them. This is what the H2's look like:
https://www.fasttech.com/products/1411/10007168/1594202-h2-bottom-coil-clearomizers-10-pack-2-0ml
These are basically disposable (they have replaceable coil heads, but the clearos are so inexpensive I just buy more of them).
There are others I like as well, but most people here would recommend a Kanger Aerotank, or Aspire Nautilus (either regular or mini). These are a lot more expensive, but they're basically permanent heads (you just replace the coils).
Innokin iTaste MVP V2.0 - 101 Vape
It does come with a clearo, the iClear30. It's not my favorite, though. The iclear30 is a top-coil clearomizer, which has long wicks. Most people prefer the bottom-coil clearos, like the EVOD. I've heard good things about the Kanger T3S but never owned one.
A cartomizer is what you described; kind of like a cigarette filter in a metal tube. You drip the juice onto the cotton filler.
A clearomizer is different, it's a tank that gets filled with liquid; there are wicks that transport the liquid to the coil. The iClear30 is a clearomizer (or clearo).
As far as heads go, I may not be the best person to ask. I really like the H2 clearomizers; you can get them for about $3 each on e-bay or for about $1.50 from Fasttech. Fasttech is in china though, so it can take several weeks to get them. This is what the H2's look like:
https://www.fasttech.com/products/1411/10007168/1594202-h2-bottom-coil-clearomizers-10-pack-2-0ml
These are basically disposable (they have replaceable coil heads, but the clearos are so inexpensive I just buy more of them).
There are others I like as well, but most people here would recommend a Kanger Aerotank, or Aspire Nautilus (either regular or mini). These are a lot more expensive, but they're basically permanent heads (you just replace the coils).
Lol, I didn't want to sound like a ..... so I'm glad you didn't take it that way! I see everyone else has given you recommendations but I'll chime in. Lol The MVP is great! I'm glad you have friends that are fellow capers. They'll definitely come in handy when you do start to build!
So how do you change coils? What makes these better than the stock one? More cloud or better taste?
By the way, FastTech is also a great place to get an education about e-cigarettes, mostly because they show pictures of everything taken apart so you can see how things work. I buy a LOT of my vaping gear from Fasttech (as do a lot of others here) but it's worth it just to see what all the things everyone talks about actually look like. Go here:
https://www.fasttech.com/category/1411/electronic-cigarettes
And in the pulldown on the right, make sure you do "Sort by popularity" You'll see the most popular mods, heads, accessories, etc, but even more you can look at the pictures and really see what these are. If you are interested in some item check out the discussions (which are MUCH better than the reviews) and you will see why some things are better than others.
BEWARE! FastTech is a mixed bag:
The good:
They have an incredible amount of vaping stuff and their prices are very low
Shipping is either free or very cheap. (For very small orders you may need to pay shipping, but the max is usually $2.)
The bad:
It can take anywhere from 2.5-6 weeks to get the stuff (Depends on what you order - batteries and e-liquid tend to take longer, especially batteries)
It will spoil you for prices on stuff bought from US vendors
Most of their stuff is of decent quality, some is very good, and some is total crap. Always read the discussions (and perhaps the reviews)
Some of their stuff is genuine, but many are clones. However, they are good about labeling the clones, if it says "Protank 2 style" it's a clone. Not that clones are necessarily bad.
Anyway I hope this info helps!
https://www.fasttech.com/category/1411/electronic-cigarettes
And in the pulldown on the right, make sure you do "Sort by popularity" You'll see the most popular mods, heads, accessories, etc, but even more you can look at the pictures and really see what these are. If you are interested in some item check out the discussions (which are MUCH better than the reviews) and you will see why some things are better than others.
BEWARE! FastTech is a mixed bag:
The good:
They have an incredible amount of vaping stuff and their prices are very low
Shipping is either free or very cheap. (For very small orders you may need to pay shipping, but the max is usually $2.)
The bad:
It can take anywhere from 2.5-6 weeks to get the stuff (Depends on what you order - batteries and e-liquid tend to take longer, especially batteries)
It will spoil you for prices on stuff bought from US vendors
Most of their stuff is of decent quality, some is very good, and some is total crap. Always read the discussions (and perhaps the reviews)
Some of their stuff is genuine, but many are clones. However, they are good about labeling the clones, if it says "Protank 2 style" it's a clone. Not that clones are necessarily bad.
Anyway I hope this info helps!
You can get spare coils. You just unscrew the old one, and screw in a new one. They look like this:
$4.51 Authentic Protank Clearomizer Coil Heads (5-Pack) 5-pack - 1.8ohm at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
(These have a tall head, others are a bit shorter). They come in different resistances; lower resistances will produce more vapor.
You can re-build these and make them much better than the originals, go on u-tube and search for "kanger coil rebuild" and you will get a bunch of videos. But these are not the easiest to rebuild, because they're so small (and it always looks easier in the video than when you try to do it yourself!)
I should say, these are not "massive-cloud" heads; they have good taste and decent vapor.
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