New Infinity Model from ?????????????????? Innokin in CHina

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OK thanks guys , now there is the innokin Inifnity VV model "
the best variable voltage (VV) electronic cigarette

Ok so here it comes , the Infinity from them the Smoketech VV bolt

Damn soon we will all be " Turning CHinese , I think I'm Turning CHinese I really think SO "

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Well it lost all credibility for me when I seen the name. He must be tied in with the Chinese too.
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Pfftt! Dedicated atty? What kind of battery? What kind of regulator?

No competition there :)

Here's the Email I sent to them.
Dear Sirs,
Is there nothing you people won't do for a buck? Where is the honor in copying another persons design and name just to make money? Please know I will never buy any of your products because of this.

But it just looks like the VV Ego.
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Pbusardo did put a decent disclaimer in regards to notcigs' use of the infinity name. I've never had a problem with pbusardo's reviews... he goes in-depth most of the time and puts out the relevant info on what he reviews. His stuff isn't perfect but I think so far he's done a good job.

I've said it before... quality will determine longevity. Jacking the name is crappy move, but like you said, they don't care. It won't take many cheap chinese knock-offs falling apart before people realize that they really aren't saving money by buying these.
 

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Reviewers review. It's what they do. Their is absolutely nothing wrong with anyone doing a review on any product. He reviewed the Buzz Pro and and the I Pro didn't he? He has reviewed dozens of Chinese devices as well. Why not this one?

Sure they are stealing your name and I agree 100% that this is a crappy move on their part. But Phil has already came out in support of you on this and will no doubt do so again if he reviews the knock off Infinity. Your acting like an impartial reviewer should refuse a review because it is personal to you. That's wrong on a couple levels. If he refuses to review something just because you don't want him to...he is being partial to one supplier. Phil reviews product...he does not kowtow to anyone and he shouldn't start now.

You are justifiably upset Buzz...but making snide remarks about an honest reviewer here and on other forums makes you look like an azz. Instead of attacking the guy why don't you wait and see what happens? A superior product will take you much farther than snide remarks and attacks.

I am both a customer of yours and a fan...but sometimes your antics make it tough.
 

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Reviewers review. It's what they do. Their is absolutely nothing wrong with anyone doing a review on any product. He reviewed the Buzz Pro and and the I Pro didn't he? He has reviewed dozens of Chinese devices as well. Why not this one?

Sure they are stealing your name and I agree 100% that this is a crappy move on their part. But Phil has already came out in support of you on this and will no doubt do so again if he reviews the knock off Infinity. Your acting like an impartial reviewer should refuse a review because it is personal to you. That's wrong on a couple levels. If he refuses to review something just because you don't want him to...he is being partial to one supplier. Phil reviews product...he does not kowtow to anyone and he shouldn't start now.

You are justifiably upset Buzz...but making snide remarks about an honest reviewer here and on other forums makes you look like an azz. Instead of attacking the guy why don't you wait and see what happens? A superior product will take you much farther than snide remarks and attacks.

I am both a customer of yours and a fan...but sometimes your antics make it tough.

SO what you are saying is if a CHinese company goes and makes a ProVARI III and it is marketed like it then it is OK ? Phil should know better IMO . This just supports this kind of BS in this market , I call them Like I see em and this is BS on Phils part and Innokins part.

If that sits bad with you then it does , I will NOT apologize for trying to protect my products and employees ! not gonna happen.
 

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SO what you are saying is if a CHinese company goes and makes a ProVARI III and it is marketed like it then it is OK ? Phil should know better IMO . This just supports this kind of BS in this market , I call them Like I see em and this is BS on Phils part and Innokins part.

If that sits bad with you then it does , I will NOT apologize for trying to protect my products and employees ! not gonna happen.

I didn't say anything about your right to protect your employees. If you didn't then I wouldn't be a customer. Nor did I say what Innokin was doing is right in any way. That's part of the problem pal...You hear what you want and make up the rest when someone disagrees with you in any way.

What I said is that their is no harm in a reviewer (ANY reviewer) reviewing ANY product.

If you would slow down and think for a second you would see that having an ETHICAL person review the fake is actually going to help differentiate the fake PV from yours because said reviewer will absolutely make that distinction. THEY WILL ADVERTISE THE DIFFERENCE FOR YOU. Unless that is you manage to pizz the whole reviewer community off with your less than professional behavior.

Relax...You have a whole army of Buzz and I Pro owners out there including myself that will help newbs to know the difference. You have stated yourself that business is tough right now...so don't make it worse by pizzing everybody off.

IMO you have the most user friendly VV's on the market. When the VVPV comes on line you will also have one of the most advanced and convenient devices available. Quality will shine through!

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I didn't say anything about your right to protect your employees. If you didn't then I wouldn't be a customer. Nor did I say what Innokin was doing is right in any way. That's part of the problem pal...You hear what you want and make up the rest when someone disagrees with you in any way.

What I said is that their is no harm in a reviewer (ANY reviewer) reviewing ANY product.

If you would slow down and think for a second you would see that having an ETHICAL person review the fake is actually going to help differentiate the fake PV from yours because said reviewer will absolutely make that distinction. THEY WILL ADVERTISE THE DIFFERENCE FOR YOU. Unless that is you manage to pizz the whole reviewer community off with your less than professional behavior.

Relax...You have a whole army of Buzz and I Pro owners out there including myself that will help newbs to know the difference. You have stated yourself that business is tough right now...so don't make it worse by pizzing everybody off.

IMO you have the most user friendly VV's on the market. When the VVPV comes on line you will also have one of the most advanced and convenient devices available. Quality will shine through!

Bo

Point taken , chilling now ,


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What I said is that their is no harm in a reviewer (ANY reviewer) reviewing ANY product.


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I disagree you dont see reviews of knockoffs or other disreputable products in other industries. You will never see a video game mag review modchips or flash devices used to play pirated games. you dont see fashion mags reviewing knockoff gucci bags etc.
 
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