New Joyetech 20watt eGrip

[armadillo]

Thanks, did you come across any with a smaller ID on your search as 1/16 is 1.5mm which is still a bit big for me.

That was the smallest I could find. And yes, it is still slightly too airy for me as well. But I had some nice drip tips with a 1 mm hole and together those work great for me. The tips are found here: https://www.fasttech.com/p/1775802 (also available individually). I should note that the ones I received were not matte as shown in the pics, but shiny. They actually match exactly the shiny top plate of the eGrip. Here's a pic:

 

[Cellodick]

My rba is leaking out the air hole on the base. I think a few others have experience this as well? I am wondering if I have too much wick? Any input would be great. Thanks!


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I think less wick is better, no leaks no gurgle, others say more, which is when I get gurgle, but still no leaks unless I overfill. Try both, see what works for YOU. Good luck.

 

[Atlantisboy]

That was the smallest I could find. And yes, it is still slightly too airy for me as well. But I had some nice drip tips with a 1 mm hole and together those work great for me. The tips are found here: https://www.fasttech.com/p/1775802 (also available individually). I should note that the ones I received were not matte as shown in the pics, but shiny. They actually match exactly the shiny top plate of the eGrip.

Thank you.

 

[level0five]

i cut my wick so it doesn't reach the bottom of the well. In fact it's really short. I rest my scissors on the base and cut up. and it doesn't go all around the base. Just wick and cut as normal. Flavour has improved ten fold, and zero leaking. Not a drop. It should but it doesn't.

This is my first experience w/ rebuildables. Only been vaping about 4 months. Can't tell you how many times I've rewicked this thing. Also can't tell you how many mils I've lost forgetting to reinstall the top cap. Quickly resolved the dry hit problem but lately I've been having quite the time with flooding. Took about a 3mm wide strip of kgd, peeled off the outside layers, cut the wick to just barely touch the bottom deck, fluffed and spread it around the perimeter and then attached the chimney. Couldn't have been easier. Great saturated vape. No leaking, flooding, gurgling, or dry hits. Cheers redordead.

 

[Junny89]

This is my first experience w/ rebuildables. Only been vaping about 4 months. Can't tell you how many times I've rewicked this thing. Also can't tell you how many mils I've lost forgetting to reinstall the top cap. Quickly resolved the dry hit problem but lately I've been having quite the time with flooding. Took about a 3mm wide strip of kgd, peeled off the outside layers, cut the wick to just barely touch the bottom deck, fluffed and spread it around the perimeter and then attached the chimney. Couldn't have been easier. Great saturated vape. No leaking, flooding, gurgling, or dry hits. Cheers redordead.

So the trick is to fluff the cotton, cover the air holes but not pack it down infront of them, gently nudge them down?

 

[level0five]

So the trick is to fluff the cotton, cover the air holes but not pack it down infront of them, gently nudge them down?

I can only speak from my limited experience. I have better results fluffing the cotton. Don't compress it. I've only bothered covering 2 holes. My first rba base had holes that lined up w/ the coil so the other two were too tight to get to. Never had a problem. I've had about an 80% success rate installing the chimney first and then slowly tucking the wick. But the above method is incredibly easy and is working perfectly. Can't see myself botching it with this approach.

 

[sofarsogood]

The egrip rba is my first rebuildable and pretty much garantees I'll be having more. I'm worred about government interference here in michigan so self sufficiency has beome a priority. In the mean time does the very small size of the rba chamber mean that tiny is good? Should we expect rbas to come out for other tanks that were originally designed only for disposable coil heads?

I don't use the egrip for every day all day vaping because I don't know if I can find a way to replace the battery or find the battery I'll need for the job. The last time I checked LI batteries lose 50% of their endurance after the equilivent of 400 complete disharges and recharges. Does anyone know if the current generation of LI batteries has improved on that? May be i'm being too careful. I really like the device.

 

[Kh888]

Leaking problem seems solved. I had too much cotton and it was preventing the chimney from tightening down. So far so good this last time with rewicking!


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[Junny89]

The egrip rba is my first rebuildable and pretty much garantees I'll be having more. I'm worred about government interference here in michigan so self sufficiency has beome a priority. In the mean time does the very small size of the rba chamber mean that tiny is good? Should we expect rbas to come out for other tanks that were originally designed only for disposable coil heads?

I don't use the egrip for every day all day vaping because I don't know if I can find a way to replace the battery or find the battery I'll need for the job. The last time I checked LI batteries lose 50% of their endurance after the equilivent of 400 complete disharges and recharges. Does anyone know if the current generation of LI batteries has improved on that? May be i'm being too careful. I really like the device.

I'm certain some one clever in this thread will find a way, when opened to replace the battery

I managed to replace the lipo battery in my Vaporshark dna30. Just some soldering skills and the correct battery.
If you can't solder I'm certain a r/c enthusiasts or shop will do it for you.

I wouldn't worry. Just enjoy this beast while you can!
When time comes we all shall cross that path...

 

[Junny89]

Leaking problem seems solved. I had too much cotton and it was preventing the chimney from tightening down. So far so good this last time with rewicking!


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So less is more?

 

[Kh888]

So less is more?

It seems so. I would not call my wick thin, but it is definitely shorter than before.


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[cigatron]

So less is more?

Anything interfering with the chimney tightening all the way down is a bad thing. That's why I put the chimney on before pushing the wicking down.

The coil diameter is what should determine the amount of cotton used, based on wicking density for proper juice transport in the coil. Wicking length is more subjective but I like to make sure the wick tails/ends can reach the bottom of the juice well and still reach the juice holes.

Cotton swells when wetted with juice and will pull up off the bottom of the juice well when it does, so I make sure that the tails easily reach the bottom without having to pull the wicking away from the upper inside if the coil because that will choke off juice supply to the coil and allow the end turns of the coil to overheat. Keep it fluffy and uniform at the entry of the coil.

 

[four2109]

The egrip rba is my first rebuildable and pretty much garantees I'll be having more. I'm worred about government interference here in michigan so self sufficiency has beome a priority. In the mean time does the very small size of the rba chamber mean that tiny is good? Should we expect rbas to come out for other tanks that were originally designed only for disposable coil heads?

I don't use the egrip for every day all day vaping because I don't know if I can find a way to replace the battery or find the battery I'll need for the job. The last time I checked LI batteries lose 50% of their endurance after the equilivent of 400 complete disharges and recharges. Does anyone know if the current generation of LI batteries has improved on that? May be i'm being too careful. I really like the device.

Just enjoy it. You'll feel bad if the next best thing comes along next year and you neglect your still working egrip for it! Or just buy another one!
The batt is a 17500. There is a video on youtube, if you search for "egrip fix it". It's not in English but the camera shots are good.

 

[armadillo]

The funny thing is that I used to look for the next new mod. But now that I have my 3 eGrips, I can't get excited about any other form factor. I don't care about the box mods coming out. Even the small ones. And some of them are actually quite nice. But for me, the eGrip with its all-in-one approach is simply the best form factor. They really got the perfect size for it as well. So I think I won't get excited about other mods until a new eGripish mod comes along.

 

[four2109]

The funny thing is that I used to look for the next new mod. But now that I have my 3 eGrips, I can't get excited about any other form factor. I don't care about the box mods coming out. Even the small ones. And some of them are actually quite nice. But for me, the eGrip with its all-in-one approach is simply the best form factor. They really got the perfect size for it as well. So I think I won't get excited about other mods until a new eGripish mod comes along.

Yeah, It's a toss up for me between the istick and the egrip. They were both what I had been waiting for all along. I got enough love for both of them.
At this point, I really can't imagine what could come along that would be a must have. I don't need 30, 50, 100 watts
I might get another egrip, just to have one always charged. My isticks always get back on the charger before they die. The egrip dies. But I don't need one since my erolls go out and about...
I really have nothing to complain about.

 

[cigatron]

Just enjoy it. You'll feel bad if the next best thing comes along next year and you neglect your still working egrip for it! Or just buy another one!
The batt is a 17500. There is a video on youtube, if you search for "egrip fix it". It's not in English but the camera shots are good.

So it's a 17500.... thought it was an 18500. Couldn't tell in vid. Thanks

Update: checked max discharge current for 17500 batts. Nothing over 2amps out there that I can find. Egrip needs 3.6 amps at 5.5volts to produce 20watts. Must be an 18500?

 

[Junny89]

Anything interfering with the chimney tightening all the way down is a bad thing. That's why I put the chimney on before pushing the wicking down.

The coil diameter is what should determine the amount of cotton used, based on wicking density for proper juice transport in the coil. Wicking length is more subjective but I like to make sure the wick tails/ends can reach the bottom of the juice well and still reach the juice holes.

Cotton swells when wetted with juice and will pull up off the bottom of the juice well when it does, so I make sure that the tails easily reach the bottom without having to pull the wicking away from the upper inside if the coil because that will choke off juice supply to the coil and allow the end turns of the coil to overheat. Keep it fluffy and uniform at the entry of the coil.

Ok so i finally opened up the rba to inspect.

1. Which juice holes are you all referring to? The holes on the chimney? Only 2 line up, one on each end
2. How do you put the chimney on and then put the wick down? The hole at the top is tiiiiiiiny.
3. My cotton isn't anywhere near the well at the bottom...factory coil and wick that came pre-installed. It's like half way down. No where near the bottom.
4. The chimney was loose when i was unscrewing it. Was like half a turn to come off. But to put it back on was like 5turns or so.
5. Are there any other air holes other than the chimney ones?


I'm guessing 3+4 are due to my leaking issues?

 

[Junny89]

The funny thing is that I used to look for the next new mod. But now that I have my 3 eGrips, I can't get excited about any other form factor. I don't care about the box mods coming out. Even the small ones. And some of them are actually quite nice. But for me, the eGrip with its all-in-one approach is simply the best form factor. They really got the perfect size for it as well. So I think I won't get excited about other mods until a new eGripish mod comes along.

Have to agree. For what this is, it's incredible. It's just like a rta mod but in a tiny form factor!

 

[TennDave]

Hands check with the eGrip. Took the leather off and put the black silicone case on for around the house today. Build is at 1.2 ohms RBA, a spacer on top with a black cherry vapor widemouth delrin drip tip

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[cigatron]

Ok so i finally opened up the rba to inspect.

1. Which juice holes are you all referring to? The holes on the chimney? Only 2 line up, one on each end

There are four juice holes in the chimney. All four should be accessible to wicking when installed. If not, gurgling and flooding are imminent.

2. How do you put the chimney on and then put the wick down? The hole at the top is tiiiiiiiny.

Yes, the opening is tiiiiiny, that's why I use a needle to help get the wick down in there.

3. My cotton isn't anywhere near the well at the bottom...factory coil and wick that came pre-installed. It's like half way down. No where near the bottom.

The factory installed wick in mine was short too and caused gurgling.

4. The chimney was loose when i was unscrewing it. Was like half a turn to come off. But to put it back on was like 5turns or so.

Chimney and chimney cap should be tight to stop leaking. Sometimes the chimney and/or the chimney cap will unscrew when removing the rba if they were not installed tight enough.

5. Are there any other air holes other than the chimney ones?

The four small holes in the chimney are there to allow juice to enter into the atomizer chamber from the tank. The wicking then transports the juice to the coil. They are not air holes so to speak, that is, not part of controlling your draw effort through the device. They are however effected by your draw effort, because the harder you draw, the more juice you pull through them from the tank.

In addition, those juice holes serve as an avenue for air to enter into the tank after each draw on the device. This air entering the tank is what causes the little air bubbles you see rising in the tank after each draw or two. This is necessary to keep the low pressure (vacuum)in the tank balanced for consistant juice flow into the atomizer.

Too much cotton compacted against the inside of the juice holes will limit air entering the tank which will in turn limit the juice flow out. Too little cotton will allow too much air into the tank thereby allowing excess juice flow which can lead to gurgling, flooding and eventually leaking out of the rba or drip tip. It's a balancing act that these types of RTAs rely on to perform correctly. Keep it fluffy.

I'm guessing 3+4 are due to my leaking issues?

Your leaking could have been caused by short wicking or maybe a loose chimney, or even a bad or missing seal somewhere. Tanks only work right when perfectly sealed and wicked properly.

Sorry for the long dissertation, but it's "need to know info" if you're gonna crack the code on RTAs like the Egrip.