New Member Caught by Tececig

[smithie007]

Hello to all! It's wonderful to have joined such a community! I am new to vaping. I have only been vaping for about 3 weeks. I unfortunately was caught in Tececig's newcomer web. So my question is, Where do I move from here? What would be the best equipment to get? What e liquid should I go with? Thanks!

 

[CASEACE79]

A lot of this is trial and error. Especially when it comes to flavors. Best advice I have is don't be afraid to try other juice flavors other than tobacco. And to get a recommendation on equipment I need a little more info. Like, how important is it to look like a traditional cigarette? Are you ok with it being a little bit larger? Or does it not matter at all? Are you a tinkerer or someone who would rather just connect an atomizer and be on your way? Is vapor production important? Sorry but there are 1,000's of options and a lot of them are right for different types of people.

 

[Sthur]

Welcome to the forums, congrats on 3 weeks. I would check the list here and find a local store and see what they have. If you looking for a nice starter kit look into an evod starter kit. I think they are around 40 bucks.

Illinois E-Cigarette Vendors

 

[edyle]

Hello to all! It's wonderful to have joined such a community! I am new to vaping. I have only been vaping for about 3 weeks. I unfortunately was caught in Tececig's newcomer web. So my question is, Where do I move from here? What would be the best equipment to get? What e liquid should I go with? Thanks!

Welcome.
So what did you get?
I see they have a kit called revolution and one called phoenix.
Did you get a cartomizer kit or the clearomizer kit?

First thing you want to figure out is what threading that hardware is. Hopefully it is 510 threaded.

Alot of stuff out there is plastic; I recommend you keep an eye out for a glass tank.
I recommend the miniprotank2; and in batteries, the itaste mvp2 is widely considered the best bang for the buck in ecig batteries especially suitable or new vapers; it's box shaped though, and some people don;t like that; for something more pen sized, theres the itaste vv v3.

 

[smithie007]

Thank you everyone for the help! I am currently using the tececig revolution with a clearomizer tank. It doesnt matter to me how big the piece is. I would like vapor production to be high as that is part of what makes me feel laccomplished. I am a bit of a tinkerer. I'm not worried about price as i would rather get a good piece that will last me for a long long time. Are there any that can be used while they are charging or that have long battery life? I'm getting pretty tired of having to constantly switch out my revolution batteries. Thanks everyone!

 

[edyle]

Thank you everyone for the help! I am currently using the tececig revolution with a clearomizer tank. It doesnt matter to me how big the piece is. I would like vapor production to be high as that is part of what makes me feel laccomplished. I am a bit of a tinkerer. I'm not worried about price as i would rather get a good piece that will last me for a long long time. Are there any that can be used while they are charging or that have long battery life? I'm getting pretty tired of having to constantly switch out my revolution batteries. Thanks everyone!

Big clouds tinkerer; well you're definitely in the right place. When you get up to 15 posts you can head on over to the APV and Rebuildables forums.

batteries that can be used while charging: that's called a passthrough.
itaste mvp2: high capacity, VW, passthrough battery;

 

[smithie007]

thanks! I looked into the passthrough batteries. They are pretty neat. It also lead me to come across the halo triton series. Does anyone that that would be a good choice for me? It seems like you get a lot for your money with halo

 

[edyle]

Halo is a good starter kit; I hear they have good liquids too;

But alot of these 'whole ecig' type brands hardware are not compatible with other brands, so unless you're just starting out, I wouldn't go that way.

For the interface between the battery and the atomizer tank, what you want is something that uses the standard eGo/510 threading.

 

[techchallenger]

FWIW I love the Halo Triton.

 

[Gibbzilla]

Kanger mini protank 3 is a good looking and performing dual coil tank

 

[Sage-femme]

Hi smithie! The Halo Triton is a great system. If you get a chance, come on over to the UNOfficial Halo Chat Thread. There's lots of good folks there that can give you opinions and information. We are a bit of a wild bunch but helpful if you don't mind a little crazy around the edges!

Congrats on your three weeks. Awesome!

 

[CASEACE79]

Thank you everyone for the help! I am currently using the tececig revolution with a clearomizer tank. It doesnt matter to me how big the piece is. I would like vapor production to be high as that is part of what makes me feel laccomplished. I am a bit of a tinkerer. I'm not worried about price as i would rather get a good piece that will last me for a long long time. Are there any that can be used while they are charging or that have long battery life? I'm getting pretty tired of having to constantly switch out my revolution batteries. Thanks everyone!

Well there are 2 ways to maximize vapor production. The easiest is to increase the % of VG (vegetable glycerin) in the juice you buy. As a general rule you will sacrifice a bit of flavor with higher VG juices. Now the other way is to increase the amount of power (watts) that are vaporizing the liquid. The hotter (higher the watts) the more vapor is produced. Now you can increase the wattage one of two ways.

1.You can increase the voltage applied to your coil using a VV (variable voltage) device like a Ego twist, Evic, Zmax, Provari and countless others. What a VV device does is takes the standard 3.7v battery and boosts the amount of voltage applied to the coil.

2.You can decrease the resistance of the coil. Now no matter what setup you use you have a coil that heats the eliquid. Now this applies to cartomizers, clearomizers, standard atomizers, even RDAs (rebuildable dripping atomizers) and genesis atomizers.

Resistance is kind of a hard topic for some people to understand so let me break it down for ya. Resistance wire is a wire that is conductive that will hold a current. Resistance is measured by ohms per foot. So a shorter piece of wire will have a lower resistance than a longer wire. In atomizers this isn't really measured in feet but millimeters and centimeters. Typically the more wraps in the coil the higher the resistance because essentially the wire is longer.

Now resistance can also be determined by the gauge (thickness) of wire you use also. A thicker gauge wire like 28 gauge has a lower resistance than say 18 gauge at the same length.

Think of resistance wire as a garden hose. The thicker the hose (wire) the easier it is for water (current) to pass through it. Same goes for length, the shorter the hose (wire) is the quicker the water (current) will come out (heat up).

With all this said the higher the voltage or lower resistance you use the more power you are going to use. This is why when you start talking about VV (variable voltage) devices or RBAs (rebuildable atomizers) the ecigs get bigger. They require a bigger battery. Not only will they drain faster but all batteries have amp limits (the amount of current) that can be drawn from a battery SAFELY! I say safely because when getting into RBAs (rebuildable atomizers) in particular this is very important because you can build very low ohm coils that draw a lot of amps from the battery and if not using the correct battery can cause battery failure.

This isn't as true with VV (variable voltage) devices. They typically have built in circuitry to prevent this from happening. If the coil has too low a resistance the device simply will not fire.

Mechanical mods (often referred to as mechs or mech mods) don't have this circuitry and can potentially be dangerous. So why do people use them if they can be dangerous? Well, because you can build very low ohm coils that can produce a very warm vape with tons of flavor and plumes of vapor. They may seem scary at first but if you follow some simple rules, get correct batteries, and use just a little common sense they can provide one hell of a vaping experience.

I know this was a lot of info to digest all at once so PLEASE PM me if you have any questions. Watch some YouTube videos on rebuildable atomizers to see if it would be too involved for you. Congrats on starting vaping. You have just entered the beginning of a very long rabbit hole!!! Lol

 

[dilznic]

Proper airflow is also very important for vapor production.

 

[NealBJr]

Ok... as I have said before... how far down the rabbit hole do you want to go?

my two cents worth:

Different types of Ecigs are....

Cigalikes.. very small, portable, but very low battery life.
Ego-T.. Small and portable. much better battery life, but you're generally stuck with pre-made coils and wicks
VV/VW device.. Not as portable as the previous two. Can put just about everything on top of it except the largest coils. Most batteries can be replaced and recharged as needed.
Mechanical.. A method of hooking the battery straight to the coil/wick. It requires a lot of tinkering and can be dangerous if you're not careful. this can produce insane ammounts of vapor.


Those are generalizations, and there are some that fit in more than one of those categories. That is also the "usual" path of progression. Your next step would be an EGO-T type battery. Cigalikes offer around 200MaH hours of battery life for a good one. EGO batteries can go from 600-1100MaH hours. My recommendation would be to get a Variable Voltage EGO as your next step up. The setup I use is a very clean design, and I use an EGO-T 1100VV mod with a mini protank 2 topper as my "out and about vape". It offers great vapor for it's size. The "tinker" value is fairly low on this by design.. that's when I just need to grab and go to places unknown, I'll take this.

My main is a VV/VW Vamo with a rebuildable Atomizer. I never recommend anyone going to this as a step up, since the tinker value can be very high. If you don't mind the size, you can get something like an MVP, Provari, or Vamo, and you'll have a device that fills a variety of roles in one package. IT can be pretty grab and go if needed, and if you want to tinker with things, they do offer some protection.

Since I have been vaping and tinkering for a while, I do have a mechanical mod. Those can be dangerous and requires caution, since if you have the wrong combination of battery and coil, it could result in shorting out the battery and having the battery "explode". I have a modest build in my mechanical, and it produces enough vapor to have a small cloud puff out and swirl around me when I walk. Since there's not much to it, it's my sturdiest device, and I'll keep it in my pocket from time to time and use it when I need my quick "nicotine fix".

In short, if you really don't mind tinkering, I recommend getting a VV/VW device, since it's the most diverse of an item. To get you used to vaping, try something like an Aerotank, or an Iclear 30B that you can just fill and go when you get everything working. For the tinkering aspect, the current design "rave" is the Kayfun or Kayfun lite, but those require knowlege on how to rebuild coils. Do some research, and use youtube to see what you're getting into before deciding which route you want to go next.

 

[smithie007]

wow thank you everyone! I really appreciate the definitions of termanology bc I had no idea what some of these meant. I will be doing a lot of research into the products mentioned and hopefully will come up with what I think will work for me!

 

[CASEACE79]

I agree with the VV or VW recommendation. It's a great introduction to the basic electronics and ohms law which really is a prerequisite to building coils safely. It'll provide you with a safe platform to start with rebuildables if that's the route you choose to go. If not there are also many plug and play options. Oh BTW the difference between variable voltage and variable wattage is this.

Variable voltage allows you to adjust the voltage being applied to the coil. Now this may not always be the same #. Remember my talk about resistance? Well 4.2v on a 2.0 ohm coil will produce less heat than the same voltage at say a 1.5 ohm coil.

Variable wattage is similar but different. You can adjust the watts to your liking. Wattage is the end result or heat really so say you find you really like vaping at 10.2 watts. The voltage applied to 2 different coils like the 2.0 ohm and 1.5 ohm coils used in the last example would need to be changed to get an end result of 10.2 watts. A variable wattage device adjusts those voltages for you to get that end result of 10.2 watts. What this means is you can switch between different ohm atomizers and the device will automatically read what the coil ohm is and adjust the voltage for you.