New member looking for advise on ecig for mother

[katmeef]

Hello

Great news - My mom has told me that if I get her an e-cig for her birthday she will stop smoking! I do not use ecigs myself and I was hoping to get some advice and recommendations from knowledgeable forum members on a cheap solution that I can purchase for her and any suggested retailers serving the GTA area in Ontario Canada.

Wanting a mechmod that takes 18650 batteries like the Arizer Air as I have a bunch of those around here, and she is ok with the larger size if it looks similar to the Air (picture attached, guess that would be a flashlight style?).

If I were getting it for myself I would do the research and find out the information but I am not using ecigs so don't want to invest all the time.

Thanks!

 

[gandymarsh]

If you aren't knowledgeable about batteries and battery safety, I would advise against mech mods. The batteries you have might be OK for flashlights and such but batteries used in vaping must meet certain criteria.

I know you probably think that you don't want a box mod but there are many regulated box mods that are affordable and safe. They are also more flexible than a mech.

There are tube style regulated mods but not very many.

Oh and welcome to ECF!

 

[djsvapour]

I'm sorry, but I don't know what the Arizer Air is.

Do you want something that size? It looks crazy large...

 

[suprtrkr]

Hi, and welcome to the board. I am a mech modder from way back, and I definitely recommend against a mech as a first e-cig, and/or for people who don't understand Ohm's Law and how they work. Let me suggest you start your mom out on an iStick 30 and an Aspire Nautilus tank. This is a good beginner kit, no more expensive than a quality mech mod plus a tank, and much safer and easier to use; not to mention being more capable. The tank-- any tank-- will require routine replacement of the coil therein, they are wear parts and go south with use. Therefore, replacement coils should be part of your purchase. I further suggest you take you mom to a vape store and have her taste test a number of juices. Most good vape stores have "juice bars" where you can taste for free if you have your own battery. Getting the right juice is important. Your mom won't use the gear if she doesn't like the taste, and you really can't make that call for her. Holler back if you have any more questions, quoting or liking this post. That will notify me and I'll come look.

 

[Sir2fyablyNutz]

Eleaf iStick 30 watt and Aspire Nautilus Mini

 

[pyroclasticflow]

As gandymarsh stated, I would not start her off with a mech mod. It seems like overkill for someone who has never vaped before, and it can be pretty confusing for newbies. I've seen seasoned vapers have serious issues with mech mods. While I'm not a big fan of them, it might be easier to start her off with an e-cigarette - one that looks like an actual cigarette or is at least pretty lightweight. It's sometimes hard for long-term smokers to go from cigarettes to a larger device that weighs more because the feel is vastly different. At the same time, if she wants something that hits hard, the cig lookalikes aren't the best option.

I'm not sure about others' experiences with the Vamo V5 but I got mine cheap online just a few months ago. It's a digital mod and is by no means new but it does the trick pretty well. It can use an 18650 battery but you have to attach the other tube it comes with, which makes the device longer. It's not the most lightweight though. I use mine with an Aspire Nautilus mini tank.

I also second suprtrkr's advice re: iStick 30w and Aspire Nautilus tank. This is a pretty good setup for someone who wants a vape that hits hard, lasts long, and can get more wattage than something like an Ego-T starter kit. I know some people have had issues with iStick 30ws so definitely read up more on that first. Also make sure if you do get it for her, she does not leave it charging over night. Oh, another cool thing about the iSticks: you can use them while they're charging. The devices aren't that heavy either even though they might look it. I used my iStick 30w with a Nautilus mini for months and it was a damn good vape compared to the crappy Ego-T batteries and Evod tanks I'd been buying for a year or so before.

 

[edyle]

Hello

Great news - My mom has told me that if I get her an e-cig for her birthday she will stop smoking! I do not use ecigs myself and I was hoping to get some advice and recommendations from knowledgeable forum members on a cheap solution that I can purchase for her and any suggested retailers serving the GTA area in Ontario Canada.

Wanting a mechmod that takes 18650 batteries like the Arizer Air as I have a bunch of those around here, and she is ok with the larger size if it looks similar to the Air (picture attached, guess that would be a flashlight style?).

If I were getting it for myself I would do the research and find out the information but I am not using ecigs so don't want to invest all the time.

Thanks!

1: don't get your mother a mech mod.
2: the pic you posted would not be a mech mod.
3: a popular startup kit would be like for example an aspire nautilus mini on an eleaf istick30.

There should be lots of decent startup kits out there:
things to looks for:
1: "VW"; variable wattage control; you can adjust the power up or down
2: fixed internal battery versus replaceable battery:
I recommend a fixed battery mod for starting up; you just plug it in to charge like a cellphone.
Eventually, once somebody stops smoking and is vaping instead, they will likely look for a replaceable battery mod so they can replace the battery when it can no longer be recharged
3: screen.
Most vw mods will have screen display which will show important information like ohms, volts, watts. This information is especially important to new vapers.

 

[gandymarsh]

Just to give you an idea of the size of an iStick. This is an iStick next to a Bic lighter. It's a 20 watt but the 30w is only slightly bigger.

 

[katmeef]

The Arizer Air is a vape for (OTHER STUFF) . It's not that huge really, measures 122mm in Height and 29mm in Diameter. We were thinking 18650 / mech mod for the reasons that she could easily swap batteries and use some of my spare batteries until she builds up a stash of her own and gets an external charger. We were thinking mechmod from the standpoint to avoid electronics in the air path as much as possible, had thought that might be the safest so thanks for everyone's advise pointing me elsewhere

Also the 18650s I have are unprotected for use in the Air which is apparently a protected device.

 

[edyle]

The Arizer Air is a vape for dried herbs. It's not that huge really, measures 122mm in Height and 29mm in Diameter. We were thinking 18650 / mech mod for the reasons that she could easily swap batteries and use some of my spare batteries until she builds up a stash of her own and gets an external charger. We were thinking mechmod from the standpoint to avoid electronics in the air path as much as possible, had thought that might be the safest so thanks for everyone's advise pointing me elsewhere

What you could be looking at are 18650 regulated mods.
The electronics are not in the air path; (that happens with the automatic cigalikes)

 

[katmeef]

What you could be looking at are 18650 regulated mods.
The electronics are not in the air path; (that happens with the automatic cigalikes)

Thanks. Do you think a Vamo v5 plus aspire nautilus would be all I need to get her to start along with a battery and juice? Spares can come later if she seems to stick with it for a week or so.

 

[MotoMudder]

Plus a charger.
But you might have a hard time finding a Vamo v5, that is a fairly old mod, and quite large also.
I'll stick with the iStick 30w recomendation. Easy to find, cheaper. Built in battery so no charger or batteries needed.

 

[katmeef]

Plus a charger.
But you might have a hard time finding a Vamo v5, that is a fairly old mod, and quite large also.
I'll stick with the iStick 30w recomendation. Easy to find, cheaper. Built in battery so no charger or batteries needed.

But will the iStick 30w last all day of her smoking? I don't want her to run out partway through and have to go for a cigarette. I know myself I really like having a handful of charged 18650s kicking around

 

[edyle]

Thanks. Do you think a Vamo v5 plus aspire nautilus would be all I need to get her to start along with a battery and juice? Spares can come later if she seems to stick with it for a week or so.

Yes.

I use vamo's myself;
I have a brass vamo3, which I had to take apart and replace the centerpin insulater 2 times during the first six months; it's 2 years old now and its giving a strange symptom now.
I have a steel vamo5s which never has given me trouble at all; it's over a year old. But by the time I got it, I was aware not to stress the 510 threads (on any mod or ego battery), so theres that to remember; once I put on a topper on a mod, I pretty much leave it there

 

[suprtrkr]

Nothing wrong with an Vamo V5 if that's where you want to go. I would go with a higher wattage device-- the V5 is only 15 watts-- because big ones can be turned down, but small ones can't be tuned up. I further suggest a non-replaceable battery mod for starters. You say your mom might use some of your spare batteries, but also (above) you're not a vaper. If you mean 18650s commonly used for flashlights, that's a big mistake. Vape batteries generally need more current capacity than the 10A batteries commonly used in flashlights. The Vamo is a small watt device. You might get away with it. Me, I wouldn't have an 18650 for vape purposes rated less than 20 amps continuous discharge current.

 

[suprtrkr]

But will the iStick 30w last all day of her smoking? I don't want her to run out partway through and have to go for a cigarette. I know myself I really like having a handful of charged 18650s kicking around

Maybe two days. It's got a 2200mAh battery. I don't know anybody who says one doesn't last a day.

 

[pyroclasticflow]

My iStick 30w actually holds a charge longer than the 18650 batteries in my Vamo V5. The iStick is a 2200 mah (iirc), and the Efest IMR 18650s I use are 2000 mah. Not a huge difference but that means the iStick lasts about 22 hours and the latter 20 hours. Ime, the iStick charges more quickly too - plus like I said, she can hit it while it's charging so that's pretty damn awesome! The Vamo V5 is a good device overall though dated. I have to say though that the iStick 30w kicks its .... even when I vape at the same wattage with the same tank. You can find the 30w iSticks for about $20, Aspire Nautilus mini for ~$25, and I got the Vamo V5 for $30 because it is older.

 

[MotoMudder]

But will the iStick 30w last all day of her smoking? I don't want her to run out partway through and have to go for a cigarette. I know myself I really like having a handful of charged 18650s kicking around

That I cannot say as I do not own one. If you sure she wont care about the size, the vamo is huge, then by all means it is a good mod. My mother used to use one, and she did like it, but commented on the size. Vamo with nautilus will be about 9" tall

 

[Panorama911]

I would suggest an Innokin SVD 2.0 and the Nautilus Mini BVC....With this device it has an external battery, 20w of power available and can accommodate both the 18650 and 18350 batteries. Use the 18350 when the length needs reduced. Darn near bullet proof quality and uses Evolv DNA technology.

 

[katmeef]

You say your mom might use some of your spare batteries, but also (above) you're not a vaper. If you mean 18650s commonly used for flashlights, that's a big mistake. Vape batteries generally need more current capacity than the 10A batteries commonly used in flashlights.

i think the batteries are possibly the right type. I said I don't use e-cigs, not that I'm not a vaper

But I think you've all sold me on the istick 30 for my mom and the nautilus. I'll keep my batteries