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justinlm24

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First just let me say hello. New to the board and first post. I've been vaping for 2 months and have been analog free since day one. The question I have is I am currently running a sigelei 100w+ with the atlantis .5 ohm coils. I really have no need to go over 35 watts with this setup. However, I just ordered the Arctic tank and their .2 ohm BTDC coils since I have heard good things about it. Now it says these coils are rated for 20-80 watts and I was wondering if my batteries would be ok to fire at higher watts. I have the Samsung INR18650-25R 2500mAh. I've only been sub ohm vaping for a few weeks and just wanna be sure. Input appreciated
 

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To answer your question about the batteries, if I'm not mistaken the Samsung 25R batteries have a 20A continuous discharge rating, and a 35A pulse rating.

With a .2 Ohm coil, even if you ran it at 100W, you're only reaching ~22.4A, which as long as you're not hammering the coils for 10+ seconds at a time should be okay. If you stay at 80W, you're right at 20A, which is right at the spec for the battery.

I'm not sure if having two cells in series has an effect on the continuous discharge rating, hopefully someone else can chime in with info on that. From what I can see, you should be just fine running a .2 Ohm coil at any setting your Sig 100+ can offer up.
 

justinlm24

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To answer your question about the batteries, if I'm not mistaken the Samsung 25R batteries have a 20A continuous discharge rating, and a 35A pulse rating.

With a .2 Ohm coil, even if you ran it at 100W, you're only reaching ~22.4A, which as long as you're not hammering the coils for 10+ seconds at a time should be okay. If you stay at 80W, you're right at 20A, which is right at the spec for the battery.

I'm not sure if having two cells in series has an effect on the continuous discharge rating, hopefully someone else can chime in with info on that. From what I can see, you should be just fine running a .2 Ohm coil at any setting your Sig 100+ can offer up.

Thanks for the info buddy. I was pretty sure they'd be fine, but being new to the whole thing it doesn't hurt to ask.
 

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To answer your question about the batteries, if I'm not mistaken the Samsung 25R batteries have a 20A continuous discharge rating, and a 35A pulse rating.

With a .2 Ohm coil, even if you ran it at 100W, you're only reaching ~22.4A, which as long as you're not hammering the coils for 10+ seconds at a time should be okay. If you stay at 80W, you're right at 20A, which is right at the spec for the battery.

I'm not sure if having two cells in series has an effect on the continuous discharge rating, hopefully someone else can chime in with info on that. From what I can see, you should be just fine running a .2 Ohm coil at any setting your Sig 100+ can offer up.

I've read the Samsung 25R batteries test in upwards of 30amp continuous.
 

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I've read the Samsung 25R batteries test in upwards of 30amp continuous.

The Samsung 25R are rated by the manufacturer as being 20 amps "continuous".

Perhaps they have a 30 amp "pulse" rating, however the vast majority of vapers pay no attention to pulse ratings. The amp "continuous" discharge rate is the industry standard and the only spec rating we recognize as the safest spec to use because we are using these batteries near our face and hands.


Continuous Discharge Ratings vs Pulse (Burst) Discharge Ratings:

The "continuous discharge rating" in amps is the standard specification for amp limits within the battery industry. It is a determination made by the manufacturer and represents the amp limit a battery can be safely used before it will fail.

The "pulse or burst" discharge rating is not a specification standard within the battery industry. Every manufacturer or vendor seems to have their own definition of what the pulse rating is. It can be made by the manufacturer or a distributor, and is often overstated to promote sales over competetors' offerings.

A pulse discharge rating is any use above the continuous discharge rating. It is never safe and not within the intended operating parameters of the battery. You should not operate your device above the continuous rating if you can help it. The pulse rating is a condition in which the battery is on basically a buildup to failure. It is exceeding the sustainable and intended discharge rate of the battery. It is inappropriate for a consumer device to operate in the pulse range of its battery.

Which would be why we shouldn't rely on any pulse rating. Any failure, mechanical or electronic, that fires the mod will operate in the 'continuous' mode. If your setup relies on a pulse rating, it's instantly over spec.

If your amp draw is safely in the continuous discharge range, your coil could act almost like a fuse and burn out before the battery is stressed. If you are already running the battery at the edge of it's limits (pulse), there is no margin of safety.

At the time of this writing, the highest continuous discharge 18650 is 30 amps by Sony and Orbtronics. Anyone that claims to have higher amp rated battery than this is a pulse rating.

For example, the purple Efest 18650 2500mAh 35 amp battery is actually a re-wrapped LG18650HE2 battery which the manufacturer says is only a 20 amp continuous battery. So, Efest is either over-rating their battery or not being completely honest by advertising the pulse rating to beat their competition and luring unknowing customers to buy their battery.

Purple Efest Batteries Not as Advertised
 
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