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Hah - gotta be careful with that "money not an issue" - there's vaping devices you could drop $1000 for!!
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I moved from little cigarette-shaped, to the "EGO" sized batteries, to bigger tubes, to the previously mentioned ProVari, and just ordered the previously mentioned REO, too.
You're making a good decision to get a "GOOD" device - but also plan on trying a few different tops (the part with the liquid) and trying a bunch of liquid, etc - before you're really satisfied. Everyone has different preferences, and many of us make a bit of a hobby out of trying new stuff.
The MVP2 box is a GREAT value.
That company, Innokin, makes a few decent tube-styles, too.
You could "shop around" and find a few models that appeal, then come back here and ask for advice on which is best.
For most "mods" you'll also need:
Batteries and a charger (these will probably fit another device if you upgrade, too)
Choice of juice-delivery: a clearomizer, or a caro/tank, or a rebuildable
Replacements of the "coil" part of whichever juice-delivery you pick (coils, or cartos, or wick+wire) - these are consumables...
There's a lot to learn, but it can be a fun adventure.
Oh - and the minute I got a decent device and juice I kind of liked, I stopped smoking. Just like that.
This place has a pretty wide variety in the range you seem to be looking. Maybe find a few you're interested in, then check back here...
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I moved from little cigarette-shaped, to the "EGO" sized batteries, to bigger tubes, to the previously mentioned ProVari, and just ordered the previously mentioned REO, too.
You're making a good decision to get a "GOOD" device - but also plan on trying a few different tops (the part with the liquid) and trying a bunch of liquid, etc - before you're really satisfied. Everyone has different preferences, and many of us make a bit of a hobby out of trying new stuff.
The MVP2 box is a GREAT value.
That company, Innokin, makes a few decent tube-styles, too.
You could "shop around" and find a few models that appeal, then come back here and ask for advice on which is best.
For most "mods" you'll also need:
Batteries and a charger (these will probably fit another device if you upgrade, too)
Choice of juice-delivery: a clearomizer, or a caro/tank, or a rebuildable
Replacements of the "coil" part of whichever juice-delivery you pick (coils, or cartos, or wick+wire) - these are consumables...
There's a lot to learn, but it can be a fun adventure.
Oh - and the minute I got a decent device and juice I kind of liked, I stopped smoking. Just like that.
This place has a pretty wide variety in the range you seem to be looking. Maybe find a few you're interested in, then check back here...
The best set up hands down to introduce you to vaping is an mvp 2.0 40.00 dollars
http://101vape.com/variable-voltagewattage-devices/148-innokin-itaste-mvp-v20.html
And a kanger aerotank for 27.00
http://101vape.com/clearomizers-glassomizers/329-kanger-aerotank-mega.html
This puts your start up cost at 67.00
Under your budget. That same setup got both my fiancé and I to quit and she is still loving it after a year of use.
The only downside is it's a box mod; which i did not want; but. It does feel nice and its rugged. The upside is that it runs at a very high almost dc signal almost as high as dna and provari. It is also variable voltage (like provari)and variable wattage (like dna), so you can adjust the power going to your coil therebye adjust the vape produced. Also it has a huge 2600 mah battery. My fiancé gets 2.5 days off of 1 charge. It also has pass through so you can use it while its plugged in and you can use it to charge you cell if you wanted.
The tank has adjustable airflow letting you adjust the tightness of your draw.
As you can see that combo for 67.00 lets you adjust every part of your vape.
By far it is the best starter setup available at a very affordable price and many people stick with it very happily.
If you want rebuildable my advice would be the ehpro kayfun v2 clone http://101vape.com/rebuildable-atomizers-tanks/295-kayfun-lite-plus-clone-v2-by-ehpro.html for 40 dollars. Ehpro is known for quality and the kayfun is a great vape and the easiest to start with.
However i would not advise a new person start with rebuildables until they get a handle on the rest. Making the switch from smoking is stressful enough adding the variables of coiling and whicking can add more stress. I would enjoy the vape from the mvp/aero for a good while and revisit the rebuild issue at a later time.
Best of luck and congrats on making the switch. Sorry for being long winded but it is alot of info.
yes Your right about my first post and the money. Didnt think tho it would cost me close to 300-400 for a Excellent setup. When you say there is no modding with the PROvari. what is people modding on the cheaper ones? And Why do poeple mod them? I Do have my eyes stuck on this Provari, since I dont know what else is out there and I been googling about the provari.
Lets say I get the Provari starter kit. What else would one buy to use with it? And do you need to do anything to it?
Thanks
also most box mods are not big and bulky if thats what you dont like about them. most are smaller than a pack of cigarettes.
i have an mvp also and its a nice setup
i have an mvp also and its a nice setup
Well, honestly, I'd build my own starter kit for a ProVari - you'll end up with a better tank and better charger for just a LITTLE more.
Provari - consider a "BLEM" on the clearance page. 90% of Blem buyers can't figure out why it was a "blem": $150
Batteries - RTDVapor or ProVape, let's say about $25
Charger - Amazon perhaps for a Nitecore $20
Tank - Nautilus Mini perhaps? $25
Then all you need are replacement coils for the Nautilus, and liquid.
I will say, some may not agree though - there is something about the way a ProVari controls the voltage that IMPROVES the vape. I've had several other devices, and you'd THINK - heck, it's just a battery tube and a fire button - but it's not - the ProVari is better.
Plus, if you DON'T like it - or if you decide you want a $500 artisan-crafted brass mechanical or something - you can SELL your ProVari for like 90% of what you paid, here in the classified ads.
Provari - consider a "BLEM" on the clearance page. 90% of Blem buyers can't figure out why it was a "blem": $150
Batteries - RTDVapor or ProVape, let's say about $25
Charger - Amazon perhaps for a Nitecore $20
Tank - Nautilus Mini perhaps? $25
Then all you need are replacement coils for the Nautilus, and liquid.
I will say, some may not agree though - there is something about the way a ProVari controls the voltage that IMPROVES the vape. I've had several other devices, and you'd THINK - heck, it's just a battery tube and a fire button - but it's not - the ProVari is better.
Plus, if you DON'T like it - or if you decide you want a $500 artisan-crafted brass mechanical or something - you can SELL your ProVari for like 90% of what you paid, here in the classified ads.
Just charge the batteries, fill the tank, screw it on, and then come back and post "WOW, this is FANTASTIC".
And take a photo, to post in the ProVari forum, so everyone can welcome you to the little "club".
Train seems to have covered what you need for a provari.
Ill tell you about durability.
I have run over mine with the car 4 times, dropped it in the toilet twice and off the deck of my hunting camp (17ft in the air) once. It still looks and works like the day i received it. Not that i am advising mistreatment of such a terrific device but it survived me, and im the definition of Murphy's law.
I have a few other mods but the provari never leaves my side, I know that it will ALWAYS work. The only addition i got for it was the 8 dollar tank ring to give it a flush look with some of my tanks.
Ill tell you about durability.
I have run over mine with the car 4 times, dropped it in the toilet twice and off the deck of my hunting camp (17ft in the air) once. It still looks and works like the day i received it. Not that i am advising mistreatment of such a terrific device but it survived me, and im the definition of Murphy's law.
I have a few other mods but the provari never leaves my side, I know that it will ALWAYS work. The only addition i got for it was the 8 dollar tank ring to give it a flush look with some of my tanks.
Look under Forum > Forum Suppliers > ProVape
Ask some questions or read up on some old threads.
Baditude also has a very nice write-up that answers a lot of questions here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/baditude/5569-13-why-provari.html
There are some other great mods out there, but if you're looking for no-muss, no-fuss & a top of the line regulated device, the ProVari is the way to go. The MVP2 is nice as well & is a great value for the price. I usually recommend that to those on a budget who just can't afford to drop the money on a Provari. They're just no substitute for a Provari - the build quality, vape quality, serviceability & longevity just don't compare.
With your background, I think you'd pick up on rebuilding very, very quickly & easily. There's a number of good toppers out there such as the Kayfun, the Squape-R & a number of others. Just beware of counterfeits & knock-offs, commonly referred to as "clones" in the vaping world. Personally I love my Kayfun Lite's (KFL's). You can find them at VapeRev in the US or InTaste.de to get them from straight from Germany. Very simple to build on, great performers. They also work well if you decide to move over into the world of mechanical, non regulated devices (Mechs), something I could see you being interested in with your background. There are some great mechs out there as well, even more counterfeits & knock-offs of them, but I wouldn't recommend one right out of the starting gate. They're not better or worse than a regulated device, just a different approach.
I forgot to add I did the same thing the OP is trying to do - I started on 808 batteries, saw that it was going to work out for me & moved directly to a Provari. It's an expensive jump, but my concerns were similar - a quality device that just works & works well. I saved a TON of money in the long run. I was financially in the black in under 6 months with 2 Provari's, a Provari Stealth, 4 KFL's and a pretty hefty stockpile of e-liquid & DIY nic for a SHTF situation.
Nothing really to add that wasn't said. The only "extra" items needed for a ProVari is batteries, charger for the batteries, a decent topper that fits a 510 battery and then just cleaning the ProVari regularly to keep it in top notch condition.
But taking that leap dollar wise is a big investment, so getting a middle of the road set up would be a good choice too. Something with 1300 mah, variable volts or wattage and a good topper would be good too. I just don't know what's reliable beyond the Halo Triton VV cuz that's what I used when I first started vaping. I have 8 total Halo batts and all are still working, a year for some of them, BUT only Halo tanks can be used on them and some people don't like that.
For me, I didn't care as long as it was easy to use and got me off of cigs. It did both for me.
But taking that leap dollar wise is a big investment, so getting a middle of the road set up would be a good choice too. Something with 1300 mah, variable volts or wattage and a good topper would be good too. I just don't know what's reliable beyond the Halo Triton VV cuz that's what I used when I first started vaping. I have 8 total Halo batts and all are still working, a year for some of them, BUT only Halo tanks can be used on them and some people don't like that.
For me, I didn't care as long as it was easy to use and got me off of cigs. It did both for me.
Hello all. New to the forum and fairly new to these Vape E Ciggs. My Brother, and I are or were daily smokers. We are ready to quit, well have been but we have been using those LOGIC E-ciggs and Im just done with it, cuz they do nothing. As I was in a bar I keep seeing all these fancy and HI-tech Vape Ciggs. So I came to find a forum that I can learn about these new Vape pens.
So what do you guys recommend? Where should I start so I can learn about them? I see some you can replace everything, U can adjust temp, voltage, wattage etc.... Most are liquid filled and have many flavors. So I ask you guys point me in the right direction on where to purchase these, look into these and see what I purchase before buying. Thanks guys and Happy Vaping
Also money isnt a problem. I dont wanna buy over and over again, so I kinda wanna pull the trigger and get the best of the best.
So please dont post the newbie or starter kit Vapes. I want what you have finally found and love. Hehehe I know I could be a pain in the ... haha. Thanks
My favorite mods in order
Provari
Innokin svd
Innokin mvp v2
Favorite toppers
Sophia
Diver
Kayfun
Smok 2 ohm cartos
Ibtanks
Crazyvapes tanks
Smok pbc v2
Juices
Mister eliquid
Alice in vapeland
Nicoticket
Aroma ejuice
Im just sharing what i use and love. All have pros over another. Read reviews. Check you tube. Visit websites.
For the record i didnt read any replies.
I have and use all of the above.
Provape offers two week guarantee. That is the only reason i tried it. I emailed saying i didnt like it and wanted my money back, just to test them.
The next day i had email instructions for my return.
Thanks guys for the Replys and posts. So what I need to know is why is the Provari 200 and why is the MVP 40 dollars. What makes the Provari that much more money??? Also when you guys say rebuilding and modding, what does one have to rebuild? What does the user have to replace after time? I do rebuild electronics on the side and build RC Cars and Automobiles so understanding would be fairly easy to me.
I have found a Nice provari that a buddy is selling. It comes with
(1) PROVARI V2 : WHITE W/ RED LED
(1) Z ATTY PRO : SILVER CURRENT MODEL
(1) RSST RBA W/ AIRFLOW CAP : SILVER
(1) KANGERTECH AERO TANK W/ AIRFLOW BASE
(2) AW IMR 18490 BATTERIES
(13) KANGERTECH 2.2 DIAL COIL CARTOS FOR AEROTANK
(10) KANGERTECH 2.0 SINGLE COIL CARTOS FOR AEROTANK
(1) EXTRA SILVER DRIP TIP ( UNIVERSAL )
(1) STOCK RSST TOP CAP
EXTRA SPRING, 2 BLACK SEALS AND FILL PLUG FOR RSST
3 PRE OXIDIZED 400x400 WICKS FOR Z ATTY ( FROM HOUSE OF HYBRIDS )
now I dont know what any of this stuff is, and what a Z atty is and what not. Basically telling me this is the top of the line, and what I would want to get to start with.
could someone explain what any of this stuff is, and would it be worth buying. Thanks guys much appreciated with all your help
I have found a Nice provari that a buddy is selling. It comes with
(1) PROVARI V2 : WHITE W/ RED LED
(1) Z ATTY PRO : SILVER CURRENT MODEL
(1) RSST RBA W/ AIRFLOW CAP : SILVER
(1) KANGERTECH AERO TANK W/ AIRFLOW BASE
(2) AW IMR 18490 BATTERIES
(13) KANGERTECH 2.2 DIAL COIL CARTOS FOR AEROTANK
(10) KANGERTECH 2.0 SINGLE COIL CARTOS FOR AEROTANK
(1) EXTRA SILVER DRIP TIP ( UNIVERSAL )
(1) STOCK RSST TOP CAP
EXTRA SPRING, 2 BLACK SEALS AND FILL PLUG FOR RSST
3 PRE OXIDIZED 400x400 WICKS FOR Z ATTY ( FROM HOUSE OF HYBRIDS )
now I dont know what any of this stuff is, and what a Z atty is and what not. Basically telling me this is the top of the line, and what I would want to get to start with.
could someone explain what any of this stuff is, and would it be worth buying. Thanks guys much appreciated with all your help
The kanger is nice I've had some of those;the rsst and z-atty are genie styles-not my thing so someone else can answer you better.
As to the price difference the best way to put it is longevity. The mvp has a built in battery,and lower max amperage output. When the battery dies (for good and it will) you have to replace the unit. On a provari you get a new 10-12 dollar battery and you're good to go. One battery should last about a year, provape is great at power management. Also the accuracy and durability. The provari is indestructible and is the most accurate mod on the market. Furthermore it is made and supported in the US. On the RARE occasion that it needs a prodoctor they can fix it usually within a week and send it back you. And the prodoctors are very reasonably priced, whereas the chinadoctors want you to buy new. Yeah i have both and the mvp sits in the vapebox while one of the provari's stays in my hand.
The best way to put provari is that its the last mod you will ever have to buy. You may want others throughout the time you're vaping; if you become a hobbyist,but you'll always have the provari because it'll never let you down.
As to the rebuildables i stick With RDAs and RTAs. DRIPPERS and TANKS the kayfun is probably the best beginner one. Its easy to work on, forgiving and easy to wick, custom parts are easy to find and it vapes great and puts out great flavor.
A lot of that is stuff for the juice delivery. The Z-Atty Pro is a fancy one, kinda pricey, and not as popular as it used to be... The Aerotank Kanger - I think you said you already know those.
When we say "rebuilding" we are talking about a device for the liquid where YOU are going to make the little wire coil, and you are going to put a wick in it - and that's all replaceable. The wire lasts, but the wick may need replacing - often if you use cotton.
This gives you the flexibility to try different kinds of coil wraps, to make one that's 1 ohm or one that's 2.35 ohms - whatever you like.
With a Kanger, while you CAN open the little disposable coil-thingy and "rebuild it" - many people just keep buying new ones - and that's what it was designed for - to be a consumable.
The Kayfun was designed for you to put a wick and wire IN it.
Here's the inside of one - the coil and wick. Google "kayfun build" or something and you'll see a hundred different setups.
When we say "rebuilding" we are talking about a device for the liquid where YOU are going to make the little wire coil, and you are going to put a wick in it - and that's all replaceable. The wire lasts, but the wick may need replacing - often if you use cotton.
This gives you the flexibility to try different kinds of coil wraps, to make one that's 1 ohm or one that's 2.35 ohms - whatever you like.
With a Kanger, while you CAN open the little disposable coil-thingy and "rebuild it" - many people just keep buying new ones - and that's what it was designed for - to be a consumable.
The Kayfun was designed for you to put a wick and wire IN it.
Here's the inside of one - the coil and wick. Google "kayfun build" or something and you'll see a hundred different setups.
Welcome to the family, Killa.
Sorry, but I won't be of much help in your search for a top-of-the-line set-up. While I love reading about the vast array of mods, I'm hooked on the VV 1300mah Vision Spinners and Aspire BDC & KangerTech Pyrex tanks because I'm a sucker for all the pretty colors. *blushes*
One thing I will recommend is glass tanks all the way!
Best of luck to you on your vaping journey.
Sorry, but I won't be of much help in your search for a top-of-the-line set-up. While I love reading about the vast array of mods, I'm hooked on the VV 1300mah Vision Spinners and Aspire BDC & KangerTech Pyrex tanks because I'm a sucker for all the pretty colors. *blushes*
One thing I will recommend is glass tanks all the way!
Best of luck to you on your vaping journey.
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