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gatorguy

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New to vaping...sort of. I have tried cheap gas station disposables with no success. I upgraded to blu and liked it alright. Just bought an ego-t and love it. I am currently using ignite maple syrup "organic" 18mg blend. I have a few noob questions. When it comes to vaping how much is too much? I am a pack a day smoker for 10 years and ready to quit. I'm worried about cigarette withdrawals and the mental addiction to cigarette smoking. Any advice for a newby? I know there are a TON of threads and feel a bit overwhelmed with all the terminology. I look forward to being an active member and appreciate all the support. This forum seems amazing! :)
 

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Variable voltage helped me a great deal. I cranked up the power to vape my way through cravings. I smoked a pack and a half a day, and managed to quit with 18 mg juice. YMMV. The better the set up, the easier to keep nic level down if that's a concern. Dripping will enable to use the lowest nic level I thin, but as a beginner you should stick with the tank style clearos for ease of use. Ease of use was important to me in the beginning. I wanted to satisfy my cravings with as little thought as possible. Again, YMMV.

While the variable volt ego I had was enough, if I did it all over again I'd start with the iTaste VVv3. Offers a ton of features in the size of an ego. It helps to have something to play with when a craving hits I found. A device with many features kept my interest. That would depend on what grabs you attention though. I'm kind of a gadget geek.
 

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As for the other addicting substances found in ecigs, there was some slight withdrawal for me. I didn't need to use anything else, but some turn to snuff and others turn to whole tobacco alkaloid juice. If you feel you can't get past cravings at 24 mg nic levels, try looking into those options. If you start with 18 mg juice for the most part, get on bottle of 24 mg as a just in case.
 

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Welcome! As far as what is too much you need to listen to your body. I'm sure as a smoker you know what a nicotine buzz feels like. If you start to fell like you're getting too much, put down the e-cig for a little while. Dehydration can also be a factor. Make sure you're drinking enough. As far as withdrawls, some people have more than others. They should be short lived and you may avoid them all together if you change over slowly, smoking a little less each day and vaping more. Good luck!
 

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to ecf gatorguy. So glad you are here. I love ecf but it is the people here that are so amazing. I did both for a good while. Started cutting down on the cigarettes and vaping more when I found out how much better it tasted. Got to the point where I just quit the cigarettes and had absolutely no withdrawal or any issues. I started out at 18mg and over a year later that is still where I am at. Good luck to you and I look forward to reading about your future vaping success. :)
 

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Thank you all for the wonderful support and help! I have a few more questions. When it comes to coils and cleaning...how often should I be cleaning them? Also how do I know if I've burned a coil? Will cleaning it prevent this? Also in terms of vape tounge...is it still safe to vape while experiencing this? Will it prolong the symptoms? Again, thank you all for the support. I really feel like this is going to finally help me kick the stink sticks!!
 

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@Tinkie absolutely there was a withdrawl from the "other" substances in store bought ciggies...when I started rolling my own (as my finace' had been for ten years and it was only $8/carton and better tobacco w/o all the additives "organic" flavorful, etc....last summer when I switched over, I had a bad Sunday, headache, body aches, nausea, lack of appetite, and then it hit me..."withdrawl" damn as a nurse I know those symptoms, so I went and took a four hour nap with the aid of some Tramadol and woke up fine, so yeah good call on the you'll have a "detox" from the "other" substances along with just the behavior of smoking.

The e cigs are basically a drug delivery system, an enjoyable one tasty and giving you that simulation of blowing smoke, hand mouth etc.

I've had a really good transition to vaping from smoking Gator, just keep it up, it took about a week of it just being weird and damn it I want a cigarette and just when I'd get that craving grab that e cig and vape like a chimney...and it passed as quickly as it popped into my head.

Those blu's I'd vape one and then want a ciggie, it wasn't until we got the ego and the Mod type when I started that it "worked" and I said "I can do this" there was only psychological ciggie cravings and that is just mind over matter, I'm committed to quitting and that's what I'm going to do. Think about how better you'll feel and smell! (My nail lady said I reeked of it and now loves the "cotton candy" smell of what I'm vaping) I'm not going to say what money you've saved, because that'd be a lie on my part *lol* I've spent about the same.

For me on Vape tongue, I switch flavors, and my guy has a flavorless one, so he gives the taste buds a rest and still gets the nicotine (he was a VERY heavy smoker since he was 9yo, a "die hard" if they still sold filterless camels that was what he was smoking *lol* there's not many of THOSE left ..they're all dead *lol*) Me I just switched flavors, I've got about four different flavors going, one for with coffee, one for chain vaping socializing, one for before bed, etc...

you can do it!! :)
 

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Congrats on quitting, and welcome to ECF. I tried cold turkey, nic gum, nic patches. I tried these methods for 30+ years and they never helped me. I would go 1 month tops and right back to cig's. I bought myself a Silver Bullet, a few 5ml PBC bottom coil tanks, a few 18650 30 amp batteries, battery charger, and some replacement coils. Got me some RY-4 juice and I never looked back. It has been well over a year since I smoked a cig. In fact I can't stand the smell of them anymore. It makes me cringe.
 

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Congrats on making the switch
As to your direct question I don't think there is a such thing as too much; your body will tell you when to take a step back.
After several failed attempts on blu/cigalikes and ego/evods
I was finally successful with quitting using an mvp2- I was a truck driver and the MVP has a massive 2600 mah battery so I new it would last all day. It also has pas through so I could use it plugged in. It seemed like a natural upgrade from ego style since it has a easy to use variable voltage and wattage feature and it was only 40 bucks. As a new vapor, I wasn't sure what direction I wanted to go, mechs or Regulated.
Well I went both. I like the convenience and consistency of the regulated variable voltage mods all day when I'm out and about or ratting the streets in the evening. When I'm at home relaxing I'll switch between the mechs and regulated. But my go to is the provari/Taifun combo or Provari/kayfun. Those two combos just seem to always perform top notch and worry free for me. It's a nice big tanks and solid power performer, along with being exceptionally durable. . In fact now that I'm further along with several apvs in my collection i still use it:
As for nic level, I started at 22 and worked my way down to 12. I'm hoping to jump down to 8 in the month.
 

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New to vaping...sort of. I have tried cheap gas station disposables with no success. I upgraded to blu and liked it alright. Just bought an ego-t and love it. I am currently using ignite maple syrup "organic" 18mg blend. I have a few noob questions. When it comes to vaping how much is too much? I am a pack a day smoker for 10 years and ready to quit. I'm worried about cigarette withdrawals and the mental addiction to cigarette smoking. Any advice for a newby? I know there are a TON of threads and feel a bit overwhelmed with all the terminology. I look forward to being an active member and appreciate all the support. This forum seems amazing! :)

At risk of repeating myself (but this subject comes up often anyway)...

There's no chart or formula to consult on this. "Too much" would be the getting of too much nicotine. Which would cause things like insomnia, "jittery" feeling (like too much coffee), headache, maybe nausea. But it would be actually quite hard to get a nicotine "overdose" on vaping. You'd have to work at it. Or just up and drink your juice. Which would be not fun at all. Folks regularly "chain vape" without a problem. Shoot, if I'm watching a show or movie, I might as well duct tape the VTR to my head. I'm spouting vapor like an old steam engine or something.

(I used to chain smoke in times like that so I must just have a thing about needing my hands to be "busy" or something silly like that. Dunno. Don't care either. Lower my nic level on purpose so I didn't have to care.)

Don't worry about exact numbers and even if it seems you vape "a lot", blow it off. Vape it off? :) What "too much" really is? Smoking. Vaping like a fiend can't be anything near as damaging as smoking.

In my experience--and I've run into it repeatedly having been around ECF a while--folks who are new tend to "vape a lot" (for whatever value "a lot" is to them). I did. Chain vaped often. Then, in time, leveled off. Interestingly enough, a year and change later, my vape habits now kind of mimic my old smoking habits. That being if I'm busy with something, I pull out the VTR now and again to puff a few times. If I'm more idle (like watching TV), I'm puffing almost non-stop. It's obviously not all only about the nicotine. There's habits and stuff in there.

Pay more attention to how you feel and what the "urge to smoke" is doing. Watch your habits. Try to swap vaping in where you'd normally have smoked. I did all kinds of silly little things at the start. Like where I'd have my ashtrays sitting at the ready (like to the side of the computer here), I put vape stuff in (at the time, my Blu). I consciously decided not to try "cold turkey" but shoved the smoking further away. Like put the one pack allowed in the house (only one at a time was the rule) in a cabinet in the kitchen. The vapor was handy, the cigs much less so. Yeah I'd let myself have one if I just had to but the rule was I could only take one cig out of the cabinet at a time and stay standing in the kitchen. No comfy chairs. :)

You're swapping out one way of getting your nicotine for another. And they're rather different. Smoke is very efficient and fast at getting nicotine into the bloodstream (along with dozens of cancer causing chemicals along for the ride). Vapor is less so. The primary absorption is in the mouth and nasal passages (some folks do a "deep" inhale when vaping but that's optional, personal choice as the amount of nic absorbed via the lungs in vaping is not much). I suspect new folks vape "a lot" at the outset because they're trying to adjust to this new way of getting their nicotine and their habits haven't shifted yet. So they compensate by trying lots and lots and lots of vapor.

Because, as I understand it, the thing is smokers (and other tobacco users for that matter) become used to having some level of nicotine circulating in their blood stream all the time. When that level drops below the point they're comfortable with, they get cravings (the infamous "nicotine fit"). Your body struggles to maintain a kind of "equilibrium" in nicotine and when you up and change things, it goes a little crazy trying to adjust. But you will adjust. Just give yourself time.

Also, if you do smoke some, don't beat yourself up. I took a good six weeks to stop smoking completely. I immediately dropped to much, much lower level (two packs a day to maybe a half dozen cigs a day at first). But stopping entirely took a while. Had a lot to do with finding a kit that worked for me (I stumbled my way to a eGo style and wish I'd known about them before I wasted money on Bleah... erm, Blu). Finding juices I liked. Fiddling with nicotine levels. So on and such like.

Not everybody stops all at once. Some do and that's great. Others, we take time. And how long it takes doesn't seem to have much to do with how successful you are long term. A number of the long time vapers around here took a while to stop smoking entirely. A few weeks isn't unusual. They still talk about having quit smoking in terms of years ago. I'm at 15 months now since I ran out of cigs and just didn't bother to buy another pack. And I was a two pack a day smoker for thirty something years.

I say don't worry about "too much vaping". Worry about "too much smoking". You can adjust the vaping later. And finding a level that works for you can take a while. Or not. You won't know until you get there.
 

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Also how do I know if I've burned a coil?

Oh should it happen, you'll know. The taste is awful. :)

Vaper's tongue doesn't happen to everybody. And, yeah, you can vape with it. I had it for almost two weeks (bleah). It goes away. Nobody's clear why it happens. It just shows up one day and annoys you...
 
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