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I’ve never done nets myself. At least not that I know of. As of a couple years ago tobacco flavorings shot up in price like 3 fold (cigarette companies own all of them. Funny thing) and I get the impression nets were to get around that. I don’t mind tobacco flavors but I’m not married to them.
 

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One thought may be to pick up a fat rabbit. It does mtl kind of but the chamber is too big. This means it will take big exotic coils which may give you the flavor you want. Mo’ money mo’ money of course. Also I don’t know if it will even work.

The way I do it is I run a dead rabbit solo RDA with the bf pin and squonk it. That’s even more money though because it means a new atty AND a new mod, since you’d need a squonk mod to do it. It may be possible to get the squonk backpack on that hadron lite. I don’t know. One option is the hadron squonk thing, which is sort of like a rta but it’s not. It’s an RDA with a squonk tank on top of It (or below it, not sure). Not sure how it all works.
ive got a hadron RDA with no tank (‘cause I don’t need one since I have squonk mods) it’s got a REALLY big chamber and has a rep for using an absolute ton of juice. That means lots of flavor though. Using lots of juice doesn’t bother me though since I DIY.
 
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    Two ways. One is DIY (and yes I do that. It’s simpler as well as cheaper) if you don’t DIY you can do it with an an empty bottle, a scale, a bottle of zero, and a tile of whatever strength. Stuff is more accurate when mixed by weight on something accurate to a tenth gram. If you’ve got a triple beam scale that will do it, or you can buy a little calibratable electronic one for 1/10th the price on ebay.

    The scale I have has X.xxx for a readout but I don’t trust the third X making it effectively X.x
    its also in theory doable without a scale, using 3 drops as a ml. I’m not sure how accurate that is though and it can get kind of monotonous counting drops.

    I am getting into DIY. Scales are no issue here. We have been into herbalism for some time. I have seen people mix by volume and by weight. I have found it best to have more than one.
     
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    I am getting into DIY. Scales are no issue here. We have been into herbalism for some time. I have seen people mix by volume and by weight. I have found it best to have more than one.
    You’ve probably got all the tools necessary to DIY then. Well if you want to DIY then you can cut your juice costs by up to 75%. It’s easier than cooking, and a lot faster. The only wrinkle is if you want things to be consistent, or if you’re doing a complicated recipient measurement gets a bit exact.. I avoid this by doing simple single flavor recipes and can often just measure by eye. VG is -$30 a gallon for example. It is used as a cattle laxative. PG is more but not much. Considering the small amounts of nicotine used that won’t be a big cost either. That just leaves flavorings. If you do infusions you can make your own from tobacco leaves. I have no idea why premade juice costs as much as it does. If they cut the price in half they would still make money.
     
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    Well if you want to DIY then you can cut your juice costs by up to 75%. It’s easier than cooking, and a lot faster. The only wrinkle is if you want things to be consistent, or if you’re doing a complicated recipient measurement gets a bit exact.. I avoid this by doing simple single flavor recipes and can often just measure by eye. VG is -$30 a gallon for example. It is used as a cattle laxative. I have no idea why premade juice costs as much as it does. If they cut the price in half they would still make money.

    Yes. We have lab equipment, amber bottles, scales, etc. We homestead, so we have large gauge syringes as well. Getting what I need should be no issue. I've been reading the forum intensively and can't believe I haven't been doing it yet. I am now searching for information on common mistakes. There are many instructional YouTube videos available as well. I have found several people who post here.
     
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    Yes. We have lab equipment, amber bottles, scales, etc. We homestead, so we have large gauge syringes as well. Getting what I need should be no issue. I've been reading the forum intensively and can't believe I haven't been doing it yet. I am now searching for information on common mistakes. There are many instructional YouTube videos available as well. I have found several people who post here.
    The only one that comes to my mind and imho is a huge problem, is using a flavoring that can’t handle the heat imparted or causes other problems.

    You’ll hear diacetyl mentioned a lot. It’s a butter flavor used in microwave popcorn amongst other things that causes serious issues. Most all oils do this to one degree or the other. More or less anything oil based. For example Cinnamon oil is just about the only way to get cinnamon flavor, and it’s long term bad. So there aren’t cinnamon flavored vapes anymore. There were also a lot of “butterfinger” flavored ones. Those are all gone too. So aside from avoiding oils, one also has to look at stuff that changes state when heated. Because vapes get hot. The most common bases used though boil at a pretty low temperature though, so fda baking safe flavors (which are tested to 450f) are fine. These two together kind of limit things. Not a lot, but some. FDA baking safe flavors, but only the ones that don’t have oils in them. That’s still a lot Though.

    There is also how strong a flavor is and how fast it gums up. Fruits for some reason generally are less strong and gum up faster. It varies a lot though. I’ve got some pomegranate that gums up so fast one needs to rewick daily, or even more often. Some can last a week or more. I,d call mango about medium.
    Another one I see is ”natura” flavorings. This is generally speaking crap. ”natural” just means naturally sourced. A chemical is a chemical. Its source doesn’t matter. If it is created from coal, or some critically endangered jungle tree, it’s the same stuff. The tree one is ”natural” though while the coal one is not even though they’re actually the Sam and the ”natural” one is actually much worse for the environment.
     
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    I have found several people who post here.

    And a whole thread here :

     

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    And a whole thread here :

    S’true. Most of what Isaid was picked up from there.
     

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    And a whole thread here :


    I have that saved. Thanks! We are trying to preserve what we can of the forum while it's here.
     
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