New memeber question about mods

[TKO956]

Hi all,

I've been reading these forums for a while now and thought I'd join in the fun. I've been vaping for a couple of years now and am currently using a Volcano Lavatube V2 with an Aerotank V2. I like the vape but have been jonesing for something new.

I like my Lavatube and the tube-mod format. I saw the new Lavatube V3 with the DNA40 chip in it and was about to order but then I saw they have the Lavabox with DNA200 coming out soon. I guess my basic question is about watts.

Is 40W enough? Should I just get the 200W for "future proofing"?

Thanks in advance

 

[AXIOM_1]

Nah man....but then again this is just my opinion and the question you ask is somewhat subjective.

40 W is plenty to do most anything in vaping you may desire to do........ Nobody with any reasonable bit of sanity (me excluded of course) would ever run a mod at 200 watts. Heck I can make really large clouds with 40watts and less. I think the manufacturers who are creating these high wattage devices are just sucking folks in with the allure of high wattage. I say this because not many folks use high wattage like that. Even in the future, I cannot see it happening. A device can only produce just so much vapor and a human can only inhale just so much vapor and so all of the rest of the power capability is just wasted.

 

[Baditude]

No one can really answer your question but yourself. If you make a habit of delaying a purchase because the "next great shiney" is just around the corner...well, there will always be another next great shiney just around the corner.

Personally, if you've been happy with your (what, 20 watt LavaTube?), I think you'll be more than happy with a 40 watt chip. In my opinion, you reach a point of diminishing returns when going for more watts. The vast majority of vapers vape between 10 - 20 watts and are perfectly fine with that.

 

[TKO956]

Thanks for the replies....

I prefer to support the local B&Ms rather than online shopping since it keeps the money local but I've been having a harder and harder time finding the replacement coils for my atty. So lately I've been looking at all the new stuff coming out and it's kind of overwhelming. I figure that if I'm going to get a new tank (so I can more easily find replacement coils) I can treat myself to a new mod since it's been a couple of years.

I use the 1.8R coils in my Aerotank and vape at 4.4V. That comes out to 10.75W

I was looking at the Subtank and wasn't sure what wattage or volts or joules (whatever the unit of measure is on the newer mods is) I'd be using. There are other tanks out there that have coils down to 0.2R and I figured that 40W might not be enough. Hell, some reviews on these tanks say that you need a minimum of 40W.

 

[Baditude]

There's such a wide variety of juice delivery devices out now, something for just about anyone and the way they choose to vape.

Since you have a B & M shop near you, spend some time there and try out what everyone (sales staff and customers) is using. I'm sure the shop has those disposeable mouthpieces to put over the drip tips. Or just use your own drip tip on their tanks.

 

[djsvapour]

Volcano... ?

40w should be enough for most vapers. I personally think 30w is enough, but I can see the attraction.

In fairness, Volcano make some decent "advanced" hardware (finally... zzz), it's just the prices you pay through Volcano is sometimes twice the price of the hardware elsewhere. It's the most darned irritating thing about the e-cig business.

I paid $22 for a $59 Lavatube... same product, only bought elsewhere. (Yes, it was the real thing).

 

[Electrodave]

Even at 20W, the vapor is usually too hot for me. I usually do 2.2 ohm coils in a Smok trophy tank on an EVOD at 3.7V. That's 6.2W. I don't think that anyone is going to get any real benefit from running over 30W.

 

[suprtrkr]

I bought a 200 watt machine. I tried it at 100 watts and haven't been above 40 since. YMMV, this is an individual thing. However, I think 90 or 95% of all vaping occurs below 40 watts. That's a guess, just me talking through my hat. I have no data. But I don't know a lot of people who like a hot vape, and that's were you are at high wattages.

 

[itskohler]

Even at 20W, the vapor is usually too hot for me. I usually do 2.2 ohm coils in a Smok trophy tank on an EVOD at 3.7V. That's 6.2W. I don't think that anyone is going to get any real benefit from running over 30W.

Entirely subjective view.

@Baditude has it right. Head to a shop, and try some different devices. You might decide you want to stay <20 watts, or you could try vaping at 40 and all of the sudden your vaping experience just made a huge leap forward.

 

[Electrodave]

I bought a 200 watt machine. I tried it at 100 watts and haven't been above 40 since. YMMV, this is an individual thing. However, I think 90 or 95% of all vaping occurs below 40 watts. That's a guess, just me talking through my hat. I have no data. But I don't know a lot of people who like a hot vape, and that's were you are at high wattages.

There are definitely people who like hot vapor. Makes sense, when you think about how hot cigarette smoke is.

Entirely subjective view.

All views are subjective Your advice is good, though.

 

[TKO956]

Of course nothing is future-proof. I just want something that will still be able to buy batteries or replacement coils for at least a couple of years.

 

[TKO956]

Volcano... ?

40w should be enough for most vapers. I personally think 30w is enough, but I can see the attraction.

In fairness, Volcano make some decent "advanced" hardware (finally... zzz), it's just the prices you pay through Volcano is sometimes twice the price of the hardware elsewhere. It's the most darned irritating thing about the e-cig business.

I paid $22 for a $59 Lavatube... same product, only bought elsewhere. (Yes, it was the real thing).

Of course I'd be paying more for Volcano. It's just that I've had their Lavatube V2 as my only device for the last couple years and have really appreciate the quality and ruggedness. Also, it a US company. Before it I had a vape pen and then a VAMO V2 which was, in my opinion, a POS. I keep my electronics, gadgets, etc. for quite a while so I don't mind paying extra for quality and reliability.

I really appreciate everyone's advice and input. This is what makes these forums great!

 

[TKO956]

There's such a wide variety of juice delivery devices out now, something for just about anyone and the way they choose to vape.

Since you have a B & M shop near you, spend some time there and try out what everyone (sales staff and customers) is using. I'm sure the shop has those disposeable mouthpieces to put over the drip tips. Or just use your own drip tip on their tanks.

The only bad part about the B&M stores around me is that they are usually staffed by kids who don't really care what you buy or even if they sell you something, and even less about giving actual good advice. They're more interested in talking to their d-bag friends hanging around the shop. And I know this makes me sound old (at least I don't think 39 is old) but they all need to buy a damn belt instead up pulling up their pants every time they move!

After reading that, maybe I am old. I sound like my grandfather used to....

 

[Baditude]

Of course I'd be paying more for Volcano. It's just that I've had their Lavatube V2 as my only device for the last couple years and have really appreciate the quality and ruggedness. Also, it a US company. Before it I had a vape pen and then a VAMO V2 which was, in my opinion, a POS. I keep my electronics, gadgets, etc. for quite a while so I don't mind paying extra for quality and reliability.

Then maybe you should also consider a Provari. US made. Known for quality and reliability. Great customer service.

Why Provari?

 

[vapingollie]

I have this EVOD mega, at 2.2ohm do you get a good hit off it? I have the 1.8ohm which came with the tank but its very weak i hardly get a hit

 

[Electrodave]

I have this EVOD mega, at 2.2ohm do you get a good hit off it? I have the 1.8ohm which came with the tank but its very weak i hardly get a hit

I get what I think are satisfying clouds at either resistance. I think that airflow affects your hit as much or more than any other factor. The Smok Trophy Tank has excellent airflow.

Another reason that low wattage works so well for me, and is really preferred, is I take big drags. Long puffs, hard draw, straight to the lungs, just like I smoked. Except when I smoked I didn't take 10 second drags. Taking a nice big drag is much more pleasant at low wattage, imho.

 

[vapingollie]

I used to take the 10 second drag when I smoked. I think I may have made a mistake with this battery, however I did take it when I was last out drinking in town and it lasted all night which I can not fault.

 

[evan le'garde]

Even at 20W, the vapor is usually too hot for me. I usually do 2.2 ohm coils in a Smok trophy tank on an EVOD at 3.7V. That's 6.2W. I don't think that anyone is going to get any real benefit from running over 30W.

I'm running dual coils using 24g kanthal with 2.5mm id, 6 wraps and ohm'ing in at 0.2. I vape my juice with 45 watts. It's a nice cool vape with a reasonable ramp up of just a couple of seconds and pretty big clouds, big enough anyway. I could probably go to 20g kanthal, if a can fit it in my build deck, and if i did that i'd have to boost the watts up to about 90 to get a quick enough ramp up similar to what i'm using now, maybe even more than 90. Point is, if i did use a thicker wire i'm always going to need more watts. And the vape would still be a cool one and i'd get a lot bigger cloud. So as it is i'm using 45 watts and it is a cool vape. Less watts would mean a ramp up of probably 5 seconds, which would be no good at all.

 

[vapingollie]

Found the istick30 for £36 bargain