new mod not hitting hard

[jesuslizard36]

Hey everyone. was at the local vape shop yesterday and ended up buying my first mech, A Dogekorn single 18650. Now i have very little mech experience however i have been reading up a lot on them and feel confident using one myself. I set it up with a 0.23 fused staggered Clapton single coil on my 13H9H rda with some assistance from the vape shop. I used a fresh battery (Sony vtc4) on it for about 5 minutes, hit hard, enjoyed it a lot, packed battery and mod away. Then later tonight put in fresh battery but the mods just not hitting hard. im getting a very diminished return. definitely not 80watts thats for sure. Any ideas?, the battery is in there tight with the adjustable pin, the mod is clean and brand new, the rda works fine on my sigelei TC.

I will take it back to the shop tomorrow if need be. Just hoping someone here might have some ideas or suggestions to try?

 

[duc916]

I'd suspect that Clapton first. See if they loosened at all, and try getting a fresh bite into it with the post screws.

if that doesn't help, is the button or the mod itself getting unusually warm, say after 30 seconds worth of diminished vapes? with all that nice silver plating I'd be surprised if it was, however the bare copper tube threads could already be forming an oxidation layer, causing the problem..

If none of those are it, I thought the square button shaft and hole was a nice touch to keep it from spinning, but it seemed a little loose in the video I saw. That could be a problem. This causes what mech users experience as "hot button".

FYI, if you're running your Sigelei in power mode, and your Clapton coil suddenly jumped in resistance from a loose screw, you may not notice it because the mod is cranking up the voltage to compensate. A mech doesn't have that luxury, but it's not the mech's fault. It's the atty's. If you want the Sigelei to help you troubleshoot, use voltage mode, set it to 4.2V (or less). Now you're comparing apples to apples.

 

[sonicbomb]

+1 for checking the resistance, also check that the battery you put in the second time had the charge you thought it did. Another suggestion would be to take ownership of your builds as soon as you can. Perhaps start with a simpler coil to start with.

 

[93gc40]

First stop using coils better suited for High powered regulated vaping on a mech. Sure you can get 80 watts from that coil with your mech... For maybe 1-3 hits then it's down hill from there. You are blowing most of your power on heating-up all that wire. Try a coil with less wire MASS if you want HARD hitting. Leave the catepillar coils to the Sigelei.

 

[jesuslizard36]

Cheers for your replies guys. il try a different build. and yes the charge is definitely full and no the button is not getting warm.

 

[edyle]

Hey everyone. was at the local vape shop yesterday and ended up buying my first mech, A Dogekorn single 18650. Now i have very little mech experience however i have been reading up a lot on them and feel confident using one myself. I set it up with a 0.23 fused staggered Clapton single coil on my 13H9H RDA with some assistance from the vape shop. I used a fresh battery (Sony vtc4) on it for about 5 minutes, hit hard, enjoyed it a lot, packed battery and mod away. Then later tonight put in fresh battery but the mods just not hitting hard. im getting a very diminished return. definitely not 80watts thats for sure. Any ideas?, the battery is in there tight with the adjustable pin, the mod is clean and brand new, the RDA works fine on my Sigelei TC.

I will take it back to the shop tomorrow if need be. Just hoping someone here might have some ideas or suggestions to try?

not familiar with the mech, but presuming it's like many others:
check if the fire button has anything loose.
the other possibility is the centerpin adjustment at the top.

 

[jesuslizard36]

I put a new coil in it a parallel twisted 26g at 0.22ohms and it's running better. Will need to wait until battery finished charging before i can give it a test at max and see how it hits. But looks like that was the problem.
Cheers guys

 

[93gc40]

Me I'd try triple 28awg, at same ohm will ramp up a little faster and be almost the same hotness.

 

[jesuslizard36]

Ill keep that in mind. I only put this coil on because it was a pre-made one i had lying around. Cheers.

 

[Nikea Tiber]

You also have to remember that the lower the resistance of your atomizer the greater the voltage drop from mod resistance; you are never going to get 80 watts (not even the 76.6 watts 4.2 volts is supposed to generate @ .23 ohms) off a fresh battery in a mech.
A fresh 18650 in my 4Nine has measures @ 4.19v without a load (no atty). With a .18 ohm atty voltage at the atty drops to 3.92 volts, meaning on my first puff I get around 85 rather than 98 watts.
Between current draw, battery discharge, and voltage drop builds below a quarter ohm will dump a single 18650 very rapidly; especially if you are heating up a high mass complex coil.
As everyone else has said, keep your contacts clean it makes a huge difference.

 

[jesuslizard36]

You also have to remember that the lower the resistance of your atomizer the greater the voltage drop from mod resistance; you are never going to get 80 watts (not even the 76.6 watts 4.2 volts is supposed to generate @ .23 ohms) off a fresh battery in a mech.
A fresh 18650 in my 4Nine has measures @ 4.19v without a load (no atty). With a .18 ohm atty voltage at the atty drops to 3.92 volts, meaning on my first puff I get around 85 rather than 98 watts.
Between current draw, battery discharge, and voltage drop builds below a quarter ohm will dump a single 18650 very rapidly; especially if you are heating up a high mass complex coil.
As everyone else has said, keep your contacts clean it makes a huge difference.

cheers for the information

 

[jesuslizard36]

I think i still have a lot to learn about mechs. I live just around the road from my local B&M so i have somewhere to go for help. They have been great so far and really knowledgeable, at least in some areas. I know enough to do it safely but im still missing a few things. my other mech arrived today. First dual 18650, a advken wooding box mod love it.

 

[ErrrKT19]

like others said there's a lot of mass, especially at 0.23 ohms. if you've got good connections and your coils are glowing evenly, pull a wrap of the coils, see how that is, and repeat 'till you get that good vape.