New to attys and dripping, a few questions

[llmercll]

Hey everyone!

I've been using boge cartos since the very start, and out of curiosity decided to pick up a joye 510 atty + drip tip. I've been attempting to drip and it's going ok, but I know it could be better. I have some questions I hope you experienced drippers could answer =p

1. how many drops would I ideally use? 2-3?

2. do I leave the drip tip on when dripping, or take it off?

3. is there anything special I need to do to keep my atty in top shape, besides occasional dry burns?

Any tips or advice would be really appreciated! thanks so much!

 

[wrecks]

Step 1 is to prime your atty with 6 or more drops. Let it sit for a few minutes and vape.

I drip 3 drops with the drip tip on when it start to have a burning taste.

 

[WomanOfHeart]

I don't dry burn my atties anymore. I feel like it decrease the lifespan and if it isn't done correctly, you'll end up popping an atty. I just give them a soak in 91% Isopropyl Alcohol for about 20 minutes or so if they start acting like they're clogged and let them dry overnight. The alcohol evaporates completely and doesn't leave any residue.

 

[AttyPops]

You don't have to pull the drip tip off, that's why there is such a large hole in it... to drip through. That said, blow across it a bit to get the juice to go down and not get stuck in the hole. Also, I often use the plastic carts that come with the atties... taking it off of course. No juice in mouth that way.

4 drops to prime. Vape a second or two, then 2-3 drops at a time (I use 3).

Blow it out twice a day. Darker juices gunk it faster, may need to clean more often.

I agree with WOH. Dry burns as an absolute last resort for me.

 

[Animeguy]

If you notice you sucking on juice a lot right after you drip, just blow on tip lightly. You will hear the sound change when you blow on it. But blow into it with lips off the drip tip. you can also tap it down gently.

Leave the tip on when you drip. Or off whichever is easier. The other questions were answered above. have fun wit it.

 

[Animeguy]

you too fast. lol

 

[llmercll]

thanks for the replies!

attypops, are you saying I should blow out the atty? Just go to the sink or garbage, unscrew it, and blow?

what about if i want to change flavors? Do I need to rinse it?

thanks!

 

[AttyPops]

Yes... just blow it out into a napkin, or TP, or over sink, or whatever. I blow in the cart side, out through the threads. Others recommend the other way. But blow all the gunk out, wipe the threads clean, and re-prime.

Water and un-vaped flavor, and whatever accumulates as you use it. This is true, not only for dripping, but for general atty use. Best to bow it out once or twice per day.

Changing flavors... yes then too. Or use different atties for each, or just vape through it. Caramel and tobacco go well together, for example. Or, since you are blowing it out twice a day, use those times to change flavors.

No 100% absolute rule.

 

[ukeman]

I drip 95% of the time because imo it's the best poss. vape.

I used to look for drip tips that slid off and on easily so i could - 1. drip into the center 2. so the side walls would catch juice and get sucked up into my mouth.
Now I insist on having Pyrex d/t's (tapered seem to work much better than non). 1. juice goes down fast 2. doesn't come back up
they are expensive but like i said; indispensable for dripping.

Tips: If you get hooked on dripping, then get them in bulk.
If you don't have a VV, use LR 1.8 to 2.0 Ohm... imo 1.5 Ohm are too hot, but if you like TH try 'em.
Don't get p'o'd if they die in a week or sometimes less... if you vape a lot, that's just how it goes.

 

[riverwhiskey]

I just got my first drip tips not long ago. thought i would see what everyone was talking about. It is great if you are somewhere where it is convenient to drip every few minutes. cleaner taste and more vapor, I think. Just the last couple of days i was going through my parts box and discovered all my old empty juice bottles. You know what? There is still several drops of juice in those empties. I have been having a great time going through them and cleaning them out, three drops at a time.

 

[donnah]

I drip 95% of the time because imo it's the best poss. vape.

I used to look for drip tips that slid off and on easily so i could - 1. drip into the center 2. so the side walls would catch juice and get sucked up into my mouth.
Now I insist on having Pyrex d/t's (tapered seem to work much better than non). 1. juice goes down fast 2. doesn't come back up
they are expensive but like i said; indispensable for dripping.

Tips: If you get hooked on dripping, then get them in bulk.
If you don't have a VV, use LR 1.8 to 2.0 Ohm... imo 1.5 Ohm are too hot, but if you like TH try 'em.
Don't get p'o'd if they die in a week or sometimes less... if you vape a lot, that's just how it goes.

I've got a 1.5 atty that has been going strong for over a month. I've never cleaned it, I just blow it out every day. I agree it is a bit hot for my taste but my other attys seem too weak. I've got a vv on order so I'm planning on dialing it down to get a warm vape instead of a hot one.

 

[llmercll]

I'm having a little trouble with juice "bubbling" while I inhale. The same thing would happen with my cartos if i accidently overfilled one, but I'm not using too much juice. Is this just something a dripper needs to deal with or am I doing something wrong?

I'm also curious if I can use the mouthpiece that came with the atty as a cart, by stuffing it with blue foam/pyramid teabags, or if the actual carts are better. It's just an joye 510 atty from libertyflights, and the mouthpiece looks very similar to some carts I ordered, without the polyfil.

One more question, my atty was "oily" when I got it. the sealed package had little drops all over it, inside. Both of the attys I ordered were like this. Is it normal?

thanks again!!

 

[ukeman]

i'm having a little trouble with juice "bubbling" while i inhale. The same thing would happen with my cartos if i accidently overfilled one, but i'm not using too much juice. Is this just something a dripper needs to deal with or am i doing something wrong?

I'm also curious if i can use the mouthpiece that came with the atty as a cart, by stuffing it with blue foam/pyramid teabags, or if the actual carts are better. It's just an joye 510 atty from libertyflights, and the mouthpiece looks very similar to some carts i ordered, without the polyfil.

One more question, my atty was "oily" when i got it. The sealed package had little drops all over it, inside. Both of the attys i ordered were like this. Is it normal?

Thanks again!!

Dripping takes a while to learn the ins and outs; don't worry, it's all good time spent... Even if you get frustrated; most newbs do, and go to carto's ...eventually you'll try again and it will click.
About gurgling, it's usualy a little too much juice.
You are using a sr (standard resistance) 510 meaning 2.2 to 2.6 ohm; on a 3.7 pv, you will probably prefer an lr 510 (1.5 to 2.0 ohm) for more vapor ... It's a warmer vape... It takes less power to vaporize the juice.

Primer used to keep some attys wet... Blow it out or vape and don't inhale....

 

[AttyPops]

Just a little correction to the above....sr is 2.6 - 3.2 ohms. The 2.5 and less gets into the high end of LR.

The oil is a primer fluid for shipping...vapable but tastes like crap. Blow it out/rinse it out of a new atty before you use it.

Yeah, too many drops to start. Blow it out 1st (the primer)...start with 4 drops to prime it. No more. Vape. go with 2-3 drops when it starts to dry up. Remember to blow out the plastic cart or drip tip if it got full of juice too.

I don't suggest you go to 1.5 ohms. Try and stay at 2.0 ohms or higher. You didn't say what device and voltage you are using tho so it's hard to say what ohm atty.

I use the plastic cart without filler in it (since I don't want to keep it wet) when I don't use a drip tip. Some people even trim a little of the plastic off the end so it doesn't get melted onto the bridge.

 

[ukeman]

attypops: "Just a little correction to the above....sr is 2.6 - 3.2 ohms. The 2.5 and less gets into the high end of LR."

no big deal, but who is setting that rating?
I get "regular" (vs LR) joye 510's at 2.2 2.3 ohm. The Titan reg 510 is also 2.2 to 2.4 ohm.
Every LR 510 atty that i've seen is from 1.5 to 2.0 ohms.
Joye LR is 1.5
generic LR's are 1.7 to 1.9
Some (ikenvape, cisco) have 2.0

 

[llmercll]

Ahhh I think I see the problem. I didn't blow out my primer fluid =/ I just dripped 3 drops of cola juice in there and started vaping, eeek. That might also explain why the taste wasn't as good as I was expecting...

I'm just using an ego xl battery (which is 3.7 i believe), and I'm using the atomizer from this page.

Electronic Cigarette - Atomizers & Cones - Joye 510

thanks everyone!

 

[ukeman]

good atty; but you can get them for much better price... at Value Vapor...
or Vaporkings ...
if you get hooked on dripping, we buy them in bulk for better price.

As you go along you'll want to try different attys... 306, 901... the Iken Cannon (801 w/510 fitting) is a real cannon in vapor production.

Just keep in mind;
- some don't have primer
- LR's are hot, and need to be kept moist or you can blow em out
- adapters will fit for the 901 ... 306 use the 510 threads.
- your eGo will work with LR up to SR, with the vapor getting cooler (and less) as you go up in resistance (1.5 to 2.6 Ohm is about it for the eGo types).
There is a new variable eGo batt out with 3.2 / 3.7 / and 4.2 volts.

btw normally eGo batts are around 3.2 true voltage (gotvapes.com)

Ahhh I think I see the problem. I didn't blow out my primer fluid =/ I just dripped 3 drops of cola juice in there and started vaping, eeek. That might also explain why the taste wasn't as good as I was expecting...

I'm just using an ego xl battery (which is 3.7 i believe), and I'm using the atomizer from this page.

Electronic Cigarette - Atomizers & Cones - Joye 510

thanks everyone!

 

[AttyPops]

attypops: "Just a little correction to the above....sr is 2.6 - 3.2 ohms. The 2.5 and less gets into the high end of LR."

no big deal, but who is setting that rating?
I get "regular" (vs LR) joye 510's at 2.2 2.3 ohm. The Titan reg 510 is also 2.2 to 2.4 ohm.
Every LR 510 atty that i've seen is from 1.5 to 2.0 ohms.
Joye LR is 1.5
generic LR's are 1.7 to 1.9
Some (ikenvape, cisco) have 2.0

It's a fair question, and I'm afraid I don't have a concrete answer. I do remember when some vendors used to sell 2.5 ohm atties as LR.

Anyway, standard e-cigs used to come with 2.8-3.1 ohm atties (I think that's the range). This was Joye510 for example. I could be wrong. But let me dig around and I'll edit this post if I find anything.

And to be fair... I don't think anyone is setting them for the industry. I know that standard joye atties, despite what all the sites keep babbling, have historically been around 3.0 ohms.

For example this site: http://www.worldwidevape.com/2011/07/atomizer-ohms-and-battery-voltages.html says

Typical kits (boxed joye,ego,etc) will use a standard atomizer between 2.7-3.2ohm,depending on the voltage of the battery. Most kits are between 2.7V and 3.2V. 5V kits (mods) need higher resistance.

Yet www.Ikenvape.com seems to think otherwise.

Here's another discussion, which includes 510's but they didn't mention the 510 ohms specifically...
http://www.cavecom.com/screwdriver/forum/showthread.php?t=21162

Also, I regularly order these:
https://www.cignot.com/product_p/510-att-tre.htm
and I know they are 3.0 ish ohms. (Since I also use them at 5 volts) They are not normally considered HV however. But that could vary too.

I guess this just reinforces the point that you have to name a number when talking about LR/SR/HR atties or it's pointless. I retract my earlier correction, since there is no standard, even among websites, let alone atties and multiple vendors.

I'm still in the camp of standard ohms being 3.0 ish. That's why joye when it came out was a good e-cig, since industry standard was about 3.5 ohms for others

 

[ukeman]

AttyPop... thanks for the info... you are like my missing link having been around a bit before me... only into it a bit over a year and came in a little after LR's burst onto the scene.

Vapers, in general, want lots of vapor, thus LR's (1.5 to2.0) on their 3.7 pv's (true voltage 3.2 or so). And as new technology comes out, it gets a bit more complicated...

you're right... we can't generalize anymore that's for sure.