New to box mods/mech mods, couple questions

[Zaheer]

Hey guys, I've been vaping for a couple months now and want to get into the realm of mech mods/box mods with vv/vw. I currently own a Provari mini with a nautilus on it and it works like a charm. However I would like to get into something more powerful and more flavorful. I have an idea of the safety and hazards when it comes to mech mods but I do not feel comfortable with the risks that come with it. However I was looking at higher powered box mods and feel like they will suit me better.

To be specific, I was looking at a black Mustang clone and a Cloupor Hana 30W Box Mod clone. I'm not trying to cloud chase but enough to blow decent sized clouds while still getting good flavor. I plan on running 0.5-0.8 ohm builds (still trying to decide on a good rda).

My questions are:

-Which one is a safer route to go with?
-Will box mods like the Hana/clone not fire if the voltage/wattage/ohms are not correct?
-I've heard a mech mod vapes different than a box mod
-Are there any significant differences?

Thank you.

 

[renegadelizard]

kinda hoping chimes in on this one myself..ive been toying with the box mod idea for a while..i love my mechanicals though..

 

[p7willm]

A regulated mod is, well, regulated and eliminates some problems from vaping. They will not let the battery get low enough to damage it. They will not let you fire if the ohms of the atty are too low, because of a bad build or short.

The DNA30 board, and it's clones, have what I feel is a bug, If you set the wattage low enough that the required voltage is below that of the battery, for example 1ohm atty with a desired wattage of 10, will show everything correct on the screen with a voltage of 3.1 but when you press fire the ohms will blink and whatever voltage the battery has will go out and you get a wattage of more than you asked for.

In a mech mod the first vape is 4.2 volts and then it goes down until you replace the battery, say around 3.2 volts. With a regulated device the first vape is at the same voltage as the last vape before you change th battery. There is a difference between a vape at 4.2 volts and one at 3.2 volts so the mech vape will change over the life of the battery while the regulated device will stay the same. Also, a mechanical mod is tied to the chemistry of the battery, 4.2 fresh then falling, while a regulated mod might be able to fire at 8 volts or more.

Rather than the DNA board, made by evolve, or a board like the DNA, there are some minor differences, I would use the SX350 chip because it will deliver voltage from 1.5 to, I think, 9 and go from 5 to 40 watts. There are 3 versions of the SL330 chip with the latest being 100 watts and also delivering voltage below the battery.

 

[v1k1ng1001]

You can get both! Get whatever 30w mod you want and then pick up a mech clone. There are some pretty nice mech clones for $10-$15 these days.

 

[LeftHandBlack]

To each his own but I feel the 30w devices are way overkill! Unless you are trying to win a cloud contest there is no point.

 

[bloodline129]

75watts is my all day vape so I don't think it's overkill. I only drip

 

[bloodline129]

I would suggest hex ohm box mod if u can get one. It's a variable voltage device and some math is required to find out the wattage. Safe recommended setup is a .6 build and up. Will fire 90 watts but not recommended

 

[D. Waterhouse]

To each his own but I feel the 30w devices are way overkill! Unless you are trying to win a cloud contest there is no point.

I'm vaping at 26 watts with a kayfun/mech for flavor. Sub ohming/high wattage vaping does not equal cloud chasing.

 

[Zaheer]

30W is more than enough for me but I was thinking a box would be safer than a mech mod. As long as I can run 0.5-0.9 ohm builds.

 

[Ryedan]

30W is more than enough for me but I was thinking a box would be safer than a mech mod. As long as I can run 0.5-0.9 ohm builds.

p7willm posted some great info on regulated high power mods.

A box mod is any mod that has the shape of a box instead of a tube. I'm vaping a Reo Grand right now, a fully mechanical box mod (a bottom feeder, but still in the end a box mod ). The Hana's for example are high power regulated box mods, but there are also a bunch of 30 watt and higher regulated tube mods out there.

As p7willm said, regulated mods are considered safer compared to mech mods because the they have short protection built in. You also get the same vape from a battery from when you put it in to when you take it out for a recharge and that's huge for some people.

If you want to read about any of the issues involved here's a great post with links: One Stop Reference Shop For New and Experienced Vapers .

 

[SintheticKarma]

To each his own but I feel the 30w devices are way overkill! Unless you are trying to win a cloud contest there is no point.

I shared this exact same view when I began vaping. I had a 15 watt device and I used 8 to 12 watts max for months. I think more power can be overkill depending on how you vape but it is not always the case. Since I have started playing around with my kanthal a bit I am realizing that more power is more flexibility. With more power I can use more wire and fine tune my vape in ways I could not otherwise.

Nice AR btw. I bet we can agree that 30 rounds isn't overkill if nothing else! I suppose Colorado feels 15 is fine but that is a whole other topic.



Zaheer,

Safer is relative to how YOU handle the devices. If you respect them both I don't see why one would be "safer" than the other in anything other than theory.

If you want flavor first and respectable clouds you might want to look into the magma rda or its clone by infinite.

 

[LeftHandBlack]

75watts is my all day vape so I don't think it's overkill. I only drip

I drip as well. I use Sony vct4 batteries and a .4 to .5 dual coil build which produces enough vapor to fill my lungs with one second pulls!

 

[Sthur]

I purchased the cloupor dna30 and enjoy the hell out of the box mod. I run my 0.8 rsst at 25 watts and my 1.2 KFL at 20 watts. Both vape great. I tossed my trident on today with a single 1.0 ohm coil ( took one side off was at 0.5 dual) and crank it up to 25/30 watts and chucks clouds. It's running 5v plus on all and the higher voltage is performing great.

I have had zero problems and got it from fluid vapes for 70 bucks. Running a vtc5 battery too.

The dna30 box mods run best at 1.0-1.4 and high watts where volts get up 5 or 6 plus.

 

[Ryedan]

To each his own but I feel the 30w devices are way overkill! Unless you are trying to win a cloud contest there is no point.

I drip as well. I use Sony vct4 batteries and a .4 to .5 dual coil build which produces enough vapor to fill my lungs with one second pulls!

I assume you're vaping that dripper on a mechanical mod. If so, 0.4 ohms with a fresh 18650 after voltage drop is around 35 watts.

That's my sweet spot with a Cyclone on a Reo Grand. That's also why 30 watts in a regulated device is not enough for me

 

[donkdwan]

hana can go as low as 0.4 ohm

 

[LeftHandBlack]

Yah they banned 30 round (high capacity) mags which are actually standard capacity mags for ARs.

 

[rpc562]

HANA MODS V3.

I tried several and HANA gives me best result. I was using the Provari mini too. It was ok but not great. hana cost a lot but worth it in my opinion. Also tried SIGELI 30w. STAY AWAY from SIGELI. I bought it because Sigeli 20 had great review and it was saying it was durable but NO. It almost blew my hands off. There was no battery venting(it was blocked by bottom pin, and it was making sparks when the battery was touching the tube.

 

[Budkiss]

i happily used my vamo v5 for months (max out at 15 watts and only fires at 1.3 and above). I used kanger tanks and kanger coils.
THEN I got the iPV2 which goes down to .2 and fires up to 50 watts. WHOA!
It was night and day to be able to build according to those new specs and push the limit of flavor and cloud.
I know many folks say "30 watts is over kill, why do you need 50?!" but with a sub ohm build and esp a dripper the results are phenomenal!
To each his own but i am so much happier with a VV/VW box mod.