New to E-cigs need some advice...

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Katya

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Is there a link you could send me to that explains match your machines ohm coil rating - battery voltage?

Thanks

Disclaimer: This is the most simplistic explanation and is addressed to new vapers or vapers who are happy within the recommended "just right" power zone (4.5-8 watts) and use stock coils.

Ohm's Law as it pertains to vaping is really not that complicated--and it's very useful when you want to know what you're doing.

Voltage and wattage are often misunderstood by new vapers. Wattage is the power (heat, sweet spot) that your PV (battery and atomizer) generates. Wattage = Voltage (of your battery) squared divided by Resistance (Ω) of your atomizer [P=V[SUP]2[/SUP]/R]. If you're not good at math, don't worry, use this easy calculator:

Online Conversion - Ohm's Law Calculator

Of course, if you own a VW (variable wattage) device, you don't really need this calculator because your device will do the math for you.

The wattage you want, especially at the beginning of your vaping career, should be somewhere between 4.5 and 8.5 watts per coil. Anything lower than 4.5 watts may not vaporize your juice properly and will not produce enough warmth and vapor. Anything above 8.5 watts increases the risk of burning the filler in your cartomizers (if you're using them) or dry with your clearomizers.

There are, of course, other variables, like eliquid and JDD (juice delivery devices) that you're using on your batteries. Seven watts on a filler type cartomizer may feel different than the same 7 watts on a fillerless clearomizer or a dripping atomizer. The same is true for different eliquids; tobaccos, chocolate and coffees generally require more wattage (heat), while fruit and other delicate flavors do better with less heat. Everyone's sweet spot is different--those are just very general guidelines.

If you are using dual coil atomizers, things get a bit more confusing. Dual coil atties consist of two coils configured in parallel, which means that a 2.1Ω atty is really two 4.2Ω coils--so you have to calculate your wattage based on the 4.2Ω number--not 2.1Ω--roughly. Dual coil atties require more wattage than singles, but not quite twice as much. They produce more vapor due to increased surface. I usually increase the power (wattage) by ~50% when using dual coils; for example, if I like 6 watts with a single coil atty, I start at 8-9 watts with a dual coil atty. That's just my preference--YMMV. When in doubt--start low and adjust up as needed.

If you are interested in high wattage (and/or sub-ohm)vaping, that's a different conversation altogether--and not my area of expertise. :)

Experiment and you'll find your own bliss in no time!

The chart below is a good guide to safe vaping, even though some think it's a bit conservative.

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Thanks Katya for all that info, the chart definitely makes it much easier to read and understand...

So just to double check though, so if i buy say the AeroTank which has 1.8 ohms and runs double coil i will then be at the same level as 3.6 ohms and need 4v - 5.25v of power to perfect my vaping experience?

As for the HK shipping thing, i think it has to do with HK and vaping being a gray area atm... so thats why i want to get my vape before they decide to change any laws over here...
 

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Thanks Katya for all that info, the chart definitely makes it much easier to read and understand...

So just to double check though, so if i buy say the AeroTank which has 1.8 ohms and runs double coil i will then be at the same level as 3.6 ohms and need 4v - 5.25v of power to perfect my vaping experience?

As for the HK shipping thing, i think it has to do with HK and vaping being a gray area atm... so thats why i want to get my vape before they decide to change any laws over here...

Pretty much. I usually vape my dual coils (1.5 or 1.8Ω) at 4.2-4.6v, or so. Always start low and increase your voltage only when/if necessary. Dual coils produce twice the vapor of single coils due to increased surface area. You'll find your sweet spot in no time.

Good luck!
 

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I used to use the Kanger Protank 3, but now I am using the Aspire Nautilus Mini and the Protank 3 is all lonely sitting in a box. The Protank 3 isn't a bad tank, but in my opinion, I prefer the Nautilus Mini. I think the flavor is better in the Nautilus Mini, the amount of vapor it produces is better, and it tolerates operating at higher wattages better than the Protank 3 because of the adjustable airflow. I haven't had any issues with leaks, and I am using the new cotton coils. One thing I did notice with the Nautilus though, it seems to have more condensation in the chimney so whenever I turn it upside down to refill it, a couple of drops will come out of the drip tip. I have both the iStick 30 and the iStick 50. Given that the prices and size are almost identical I would recommend the iStick 30 over the iStick 20. A lot of the complaints people had about the design of the iStick 20 (no stainless steel threads, non-spring loaded pin, mean vs RMS) has all been addressed with the design of the iStick 30. When I started vaping, I also thought that I would only want to go with a stick battery and never in a million years thought that I would want to be seen using a box mod. The iStick is small enough that it can be used very discretely, and yet it can deliver the power you need.....way more power than a stick battery can produce.
 

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    Oh jeez, ohms law and tables and all the rest. The short answer regarding Kanger and Aspire low power stuff is Kanger may require taking down the voltage a bit from your regular 3.9 volts or so and Aspire likes a bit more and may need a boost voltage battery. They're both trying to make something that works with standard non-variable batteries as is more or less everyone else. Therefore if the resistance of the atomizer TYPE is lower it draws more power and is probably a higher power type device. The hard part is determining what's the "normal" resistance for a particular device as a range of coil resistances may be available. For example, with the original Kanger EVOD the lower resistance coils had to be for the Joyetech-style 3.3V regulated voltage batteries, only the higher ones are usable with normal batteries, and the range is wider than for more recent releases (excepting cases where 2 coils are highly different, but clearly marked as being for different vaping styles, e.g. Subtank, Ego One).

    Being able to tweak the voltage or power is very desirable as the sweet spot is narrow.
     

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    ^ Thanks again for the info you guys have given me... definitely a lot to think about it seems...

    I guess right now it seems to be either the Kanger AeroTank Mini or the Aspire Nautilus Mini... both with their adjustable air flow valves... now just need to work out what stick to pair each one with, although seem istick seems to be getting a lot of love?
     

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    ok, haha we've gone from cartomizers and no fuss to wanting to subohm :)

    The Aerotank is fine, it has an aircontrol part that can be used on the protanks too. If you're going to go beyond the basic goal of cartomizers and no wicks, tho, you have to know battery safety. The links in Katya's posts are a great starting point.

    But, I have what might be a pleasant surprise for you! Can you hold off purchase for a few more weeks? because the First Annual Chinese Vapor Expo will be April 9 to 11 !! What fun!!
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    SHENZHEN, China, Feb. 27, 2015 /PRNewswire/ -- "....1st Chinese International Vapor Expo from April 9 to 11 in Shenzhen, China.... This unprecedented expo will offer a variety of quality, innovative and novel products, which will make their international debut....

    With the permission of Chinese government, the expo gets support from the Government of Shenzhen Municipality and Ministry of Industry and Information Technology (owner of CNTC)...[and] is expected to attract between 100,000 and 200,000 visitors. The exhibit booths are almost sold out by now, and 150 companies, including near all big e-cig manufacturers will join this expo, such as Kanger, WayJoy, Aspire, Kimree, Eson, Hangsen, Innokin, Firstunion, Joyetech, Smok, Smoore, Bauway, Desonic and many other medium and small businesses.

    CECMOL 2015 the 1st Chinese International Vapor Expo to be Held from... -- SHENZHEN, China, Feb. 27, 2015 /PRNewswire/ --
     

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    ^ Thanks for the info, although not sure if i want to venture into China for an exhibition... especially since my mandarin speaking levels aren't quite up to par, but who knows, maybe if i can drag one of my friends along i may still go... Do you think any new stuff will be released or more or less showing off whats already out?

    But yeah, i think i am going to stick with the basics for now and keep with using a wick system such as the AeroTank of Nautilus Mini since i don't think i really want to get too much into the technical side of things and end up burning my face with a complete DIY build...
     
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    yeah that set up works i've used it myself as long as you keep the voltage at 4.2 or above to get the benefit of the nautilus tank. the vision spinner 2 is an ok stick but for the price and also after a while you will want to upgrade i would still recommend the eleaf istick 20w or 30w, the 20w you can get for a fraction more than what you would pay for the spinner anyway so is well worth thinking about, however it is also down to personal choice i just rate the eleaf isticks highly as i use them myself i have the 20w 30w and just received the 50w today so still need to try that one out.
     
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