New to mech mod

[Baditude]

A lot of people swear by and use the Efest (that 18650 is 10A), but I'm not one of them. That's not to say they're not good batteries, I'd just rather spend a little extra on AW's or MNKE's because there's plenty of headroom for spikes while dealing with micro-shorts on ss mesh wick setups and the like.

Bear in mind that AW doesn't make batteries. AW's are actually just rebranded Panasonics. AW only tests them and identifies cells that are of the highest quality manufacture. And when one is holding such a high-capacity, high-discharge lithium battery so close to one's face, I believe it is in one's best interest to not fudge on quality.

I agree with both points that retrox made.

These batteries that we use pack a LOT of power in them and you must respect that power. Always buy the best battery you can find and use safe battery habits. Even the safest battery available to us can be dangerous.



The above AW 18490 IMR battery is the aftermath of poor battery habits. What you see is the remains of a failed battery that vented after a short circuit. The spare battery was being transported along with another battery in the pocket of a bookbag. Details are sketchy, but apparently a metalic item came in contact with the battery and created a positive electrical circuit, causing the hard short and the battery went into thermal runaway. You wouldn't want this happening near your face.

In hindsight, the spare batteries should have been kept in a plastic battery case.

Theoretically, the built-in protective circuitry of a regulated mod would have prevented anything like this in a regulated mod. However, a mechanical mod has no such protection. YOU are the protection using safe battery habits. Use safer chemistry batteries such as IMR. A Vape Safe Mod Fuse adds a second layer of protection. Use only the appropriate battery for your application; if using extreme sub-ohm coils you need special IMR batteries that have at least 15 amps continuous discharge rate. Your mechanical mod should make use of a collapsable hot spring and have vent holes.

 

[Matrix387k]

woah wouldnt want that happening near my face! ok im gnna go for the mnke's. they seem to have the best reviews and more wiggle room with higher amp rating. thanks fellas!

 

[Kenny Giron]

Damn, mods can blow up? What would happen if that exploded during a drag??

 

[Matrix387k]

Damn, mods can blow up? What would happen if that exploded during a drag??

You say bye bye to your teeth and possibly your dome? lol

 

[Baditude]

Damn, mods can blow up? What would happen if that exploded during a drag??

What do you think? If you weren't aware of this you need to learn about mod and battery safety.

Short circuit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Battery Basics for Mods: IMR or Protected Batteries?

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ecf-library/129569-rechargeable-batteries.html

Mechanical Mod Proper Usage Guide

Batteries : Vape Safe Mod Fuse 2

 

[goobypls]

I use panasonic CGR18650CH's and they work great

 

[Matrix387k]

Anyone here own the m16 sentinel clone or any mod that uses it with the 18350 battery? I notice the battery vent hole is covered and was wondering if it would mess anything up?

 

[retrox]

Good eye, Matrix387k. Be wary of the mechs on offer at Fasttech. There are some great ones there for sure, but several suffer from safety issues. The Sentinel clone has the same problem as the M16. I would strongly advise against running an 18350 in either, as the only vent holes on the devices are covered up by the sleeves when the unit is screwed all the way down.

Aside from that, I'm not sure about the M16, but I know that the center tube on the Sentinel is too snug to allow the vent holes to perform adequately in case of battery failure anyway. One of the first things IMR batteries tend to do when they melt down is swell. This swelling would effectively block the vent holes in the center tube of the Sentinel, rendering them useless. The M16 appears to have the same flawed design. Additional DIY venting is necessary to avoid a potential pipe bomb scenario.

I also have an 18350 Bagua clone from them that I had to drill holes in because the only venting on the device was via the pointless "airflow control" holes at the top cap. So be careful with cheap mechs. For bottom-firing ones, blow through the switch in the bottom cap to make sure there is proper venting when there is no venting obvious.

 

[Matrix387k]

Good eye, Matrix387k. Be wary of the mechs on offer at Fasttech. There are some great ones there for sure, but several suffer from safety issues. The Sentinel clone has the same problem as the M16. I would strongly advise against running an 18350 in either, as the only vent holes on the devices are covered up by the sleeves when the unit is screwed all the way down.

Aside from that, I'm not sure about the M16, but I know that the center tube on the Sentinel is too snug to allow the vent holes to perform adequately in case of battery failure anyway. One of the first things IMR batteries tend to do when they melt down is swell. This swelling would effectively block the vent holes in the center tube of the Sentinel, rendering them useless. The M16 appears to have the same flawed design. Additional DIY venting is necessary to avoid a potential pipe bomb scenario.

I also have an 18350 Bagua clone from them that I had to drill holes in because the only venting on the device was via the pointless "airflow control" holes at the top cap. So be careful with cheap mechs. For bottom-firing ones, blow through the switch in the bottom cap to make sure there is proper venting when there is no venting obvious.

good info brotha, do you have a picture of the DIY drilled out vent hole? i actually went ahead and bought a 18350 battery before reading your post and im kinda scared now haha. was hoping to carry the 18350 with me when i go out so it would fit in my pocket better. =/