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jsantoyo89

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Hey guys, Jaime here from Chicago. Been vaping for about 2 months now. started of with a starter kit that came with a smok winder and a vivi nova tank. Recently last week i lost my vape in a customers vehicle (valet) and took advantage of the black friday sales and bought myself a Smok Magneto And a Igo- W4. Just wondering on any tips and tricks to help me along the way with the rebuildable atty.
 

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Hi, welcome to the forum. :thumbs:

If you are new to mech mods and RBA's there are things you need to know before getting into them. They can be a little dangerous if not used properly.

-When you enter the world of mechs, you also enter the world of batteries. Knowing what kind of battery to buy is of utmost importance as the wrong battery could potentially vent-with-flames or even explode.

-You will need to buy a multimeter and know of to use it in order to measure your coil and batteries.

-You will also need a basic understanding of Ohm's law and how it relates to battery safety.

Information:

Here some good info about RBA's. And here is some info about batteries, and here, you've got more info about batteries.

Here is a cheat sheet concerning safe resistances vs batteries.

You will find a ohms law calculator here.

EDIT: If ever you want to built a dual coil, a common misconception is that the total resistance of two coils is the sum of each other (ex: two 1 ohm coil = 2 ohm coil) this is wrong, it would be true if the coils were in series, but we are in parallel here, in this case the resistance would be of 0.5 ohm.. So here is a parallel resistance calculator for you.

If you are not familiar with coil building, start with a single coil.
 
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Hey guys, Jaime here from Chicago. Been vaping for about 2 months now. started of with a starter kit that came with a smok winder and a vivi nova tank. Recently last week i lost my vape in a customers vehicle (valet) and took advantage of the black friday sales and bought myself a Smok Magneto And a Igo- W4. Just wondering on any tips and tricks to help me along the way with the rebuildable atty.

I am really new to this myself so I do not think I can be of much help. I just wanted to share that I just picked up the Magneto and igo-w as well. Seems to be a fairly nice setup so far. Hope you end up liking it. Seems pretty straight forward without much maintenance as far as I can tell. I will follow this thread to see if I can absorb any info along the way
 

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Thanks for the help guys. I come from a car audio background so I'm pretty familiar with ohms law and how to use a dmm. The thing I need help will be with the batteries. As far as my current setupI domt have one yet. Was suppose to be delivered 2 days ago. Still not here though :-(

You probably know that but just to make sure you do: mech's are unregulated, they will deliver the natural voltage of the battery. This means that for most people, mechs will not perform very well with standard, off the shelf atomizers, since their resistance is to high. Anything above 1.3ish ohms will be pretty week for most of us. And as you know, lower resistance = higher amperage.

This is why we have to use high drain batteries. The standard type of batteries in vapeland are unprotected IMR high drain batteries and not protected IRC batteries.

Why unprotected? Shouldn't we use protected batteries?

The chemistry that we use here (IMR stand for Li-ion-manganese-rechargeable) is a "safer" chemistry than typical ICR (Li-ion-Cobalt-Rechargeable) batteries. If an unprotected IMR battery fails, they will get very hot and might vent hot gases but will not explode or vent with flames.

There is 2 problems with protected ICR batteries.

1: They have a lower amp limit (max. discharge rate) which means that your 1.0 ohm coil will most likely trigger the protection and stop working.
2: If the protection fails, they might explode or vent with flames.

Here is another thing: Never buy unbranded batteries. Reason being that you can't get accurate information about a battery if you don't know where it's coming from.

Here are a few reputable IMR brands of batteries: AW, EH and MNKE... The popular and cheaper Efest are ok but sub par compared to the other ones. Rule number one, don't try to save a buck on batteries, get quality ones, they are not that expensive anyways.

When you want to know if a battery can handle the load you screw onto it, you must first figure out how many amps will be drawn from the battery and then compare it to the "maximum discharge rate" of the battery. And of course you don't want to be over that limit.

This information is rated in either as A or C rating.

A is simple. It is the max amps you can draw on this particular battery. C is different. To calculate the amp limit using the C rating do the following calculation:

C x mAh \ 1000 = A

or more simply:

C x Ah = A


This information can be a PITA to find. A lot of vendors do not put this info on their websites which never cease to amaze me. So here is a list of the most popular batteries and there amp limits

Ok Enough...


Vape safe!!!
 
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