New to Provari... Need some advice

[Train2]

You're getting great advice!

You've got what you need to start with the Kanger Aerotank, and buying a Nautilus will be a SIMILAR device that's very popular.
You can, in the future, look at trying other types of "juice delivery" like a "carto-tank" or a rebuildable (like a Kayfun) - but it's a great idea to get those tanks working for you first!

Also, YES get a couple batteries. And yes, you ONLY want AW IMR batteries, and NOT from Ebay or Amazon, because there are fake ones out there! Use ProVape, or RTDVapor, or you can also trust Nitemods.com (a flashlight site, but he's an ECF Vendor, too).

Liquids are, for most people, a bit of an adventure.
Just buy things that sound good, or come highly recommended, and don't get too frustrated if it takes a while to find a few you love. Some juice needs to "steep" - meaning sit around for a couple weeks - the flavor improves. Most small juice vendors mix it when ordered, and there's a maturing process. Also, your TASTE changes a bit - especially if you just stopped smoking!

Great advice, Oz - but what's your best source for the squirrel? And the cheese?

 

[killatoyota4569]

I would strongly, strongly, strongly recommend against getting batteries on ebay. Don't mess around with batteries. Get them from RTD. I wouldn't use a battery from eBay if it was given to me for free. Even if it's the right brand, there's a very strong chance it's fake. If there's anywhere to not cheap out in vaping, it's with your batteries. Get 1 or 2 of these: AW IMR 18490 3.7v 1100mAh - RTD vapor

The i4 is a good charger. I use one myself. It'll charge a lot of different kinds of batteries, but that doesn't mean all of them are ok to put in your Provari, or even in any vaping device.

10mL will vary.. it's like asking how long a pack of smokes will last... to some people a few days to a week, for others, half a day at best. It all depends on you.

Personally I like NET's (naturally extracted tobacco flavors). Heather's Heavenly Vapes (HHV) does some great ones. Their non-tobaccos tend to be spot on as well. Dark Horse is one of my favorites & I don't think I would've quit without it. Legend is fantastic. I vape the Blueberry Muffin every single morning. Nice Pear & Crackberry are both delicious as well. Stay away from their coffees if you order from them. No bueno. Everybody's taste is different, so you may think those are all crap, you might love them. You'll be playing juice-hunter for a while looking for some ones that you really enjoy.

Thanks for the post guys, just paid for the Provari will get it next week. Now Im abnout to buy the batteries and some juice. How do you like this site for juices?? They have a killer sale and dont know much about juices or what is good or whats not good. So I was going to get a few of them since the price is cheap. do you recommend from this site? Some have but I dont know what will taste good or be good.

What site do you get your juice from that has NETS?

 

[killatoyota4569]

I would strongly, strongly, strongly recommend against getting batteries on ebay. Don't mess around with batteries. Get them from RTD. I wouldn't use a battery from eBay if it was given to me for free. Even if it's the right brand, there's a very strong chance it's fake. If there's anywhere to not cheap out in vaping, it's with your batteries. Get 1 or 2 of these: AW IMR 18490 3.7v 1100mAh - RTD vapor

The i4 is a good charger. I use one myself. It'll charge a lot of different kinds of batteries, but that doesn't mean all of them are ok to put in your Provari, or even in any vaping device.

10mL will vary.. it's like asking how long a pack of smokes will last... to some people a few days to a week, for others, half a day at best. It all depends on you.

Personally I like NET's (naturally extracted tobacco flavors). Heather's Heavenly Vapes (HHV) does some great ones. Their non-tobaccos tend to be spot on as well. Dark Horse is one of my favorites & I don't think I would've quit without it. Legend is fantastic. I vape the Blueberry Muffin every single morning. Nice Pear & Crackberry are both delicious as well. Stay away from their coffees if you order from them. No bueno. Everybody's taste is different, so you may think those are all crap, you might love them. You'll be playing juice-hunter for a while looking for some ones that you really enjoy.

You're getting great advice!

You've got what you need to start with the Kanger Aerotank, and buying a Nautilus will be a SIMILAR device that's very popular.
You can, in the future, look at trying other types of "juice delivery" like a "carto-tank" or a rebuildable (like a Kayfun) - but it's a great idea to get those tanks working for you first!

Also, YES get a couple batteries. And yes, you ONLY want AW IMR batteries, and NOT from Ebay or Amazon, because there are fake ones out there! Use ProVape, or RTDVapor, or you can also trust Nitemods.com (a flashlight site, but he's an ECF Vendor, too).

Liquids are, for most people, a bit of an adventure.
Just buy things that sound good, or come highly recommended, and don't get too frustrated if it takes a while to find a few you love. Some juice needs to "steep" - meaning sit around for a couple weeks - the flavor improves. Most small juice vendors mix it when ordered, and there's a maturing process. Also, your TASTE changes a bit - especially if you just stopped smoking!

Great advice, Oz - but what's your best source for the squirrel? And the cheese?

what tank do you recommend to buy with the Provari?? and do you like carto tanks better than clearos? Thanks for you post

 

[Maverickdrinker]

I picked up a kanger Aerotank mega and nautilus, based on a number of recommendations. Very happy with the purchase as I'm not at the point of rebuilding....

 

[Ozwald]

Thanks for the post guys, just paid for the Provari will get it next week. Now Im abnout to buy the batteries and some juice. How do you like this site for juices?? They have a killer sale and dont know much about juices or what is good or whats not good. So I was going to get a few of them since the price is cheap. do you recommend from this site? Some have but I dont know what will taste good or be good.

What site do you get your juice from that has NETS?

I like HHV for NETs. They have a good extraction process that makes for some very clean e-liquid. There's a few more now, but this is a post I wrote a few months ago about the HHV NETs (note that not all of their tobacco flavors are NETs - personally I don't care for the synthetics at all).

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Dark Horse - sweet, slightly grassy/earthy, pipe & cigarette tobacco qualities
Dragon's Fire - rich, bold pipe tobacco, a bit earthy with a graham cracker sweetness.
Gaia - newest one, said to be simple & earthy
Heavenly Army - flavorful, but light, "creamy"
Huntsman - tastes like a Necco wafer.
Jiggy - Fruit/floral, hint of tobacco
Legend - pipe tobacco, very subtle real cherry flavor. No cough syrup or candy in the cherry flavor.
Oompa - tobacco with a chocolate tone
Pirate's Booty - sweet/spicy Caribbean tobacco
Serendipity - Legend with a longer extraction time
Shadow - said to be lightweight/creamy, but I didn't get that at all out of it.
Sludge - heavy, plum/raisin, light honey tobacco

Haven't tried, no interest
Haven't tried, some interest

Have tried, didn't like
Have tried, like

Of all of them Dark Horse & Legend are frequently loved by people who thought they didn't like tobacco flavored vapes.

 

[Ozwald]

what tank do you recommend to buy with the Provari?? and do you like carto tanks better than clearos? Thanks for you post

Of the two, I prefer cartos. They don't leak as much with major elevation changes which is pretty important where I live. If I lived in Nebraska or Iowa, that wouldn't matter at all - I live at 5100' & in less than an hour I can dip down to 4800' & go back up to 8000'+. A couple of days ago I was almost at 10,000'. A clearo would've been a massive leaky mess. A carto would've tried to flood, but it would've been much easier to control.

Also cartos have a pretty steep learning curve to them. Clearos are much easier out of the box.

 

[keepsmiling]

Nicoticket makes awesome juices too. They are near the bottom of the forum. My favorites are Wakonda and The Virus. You have received great advice and have started way ahead of me. It took me several batteries and mods to make it to the provari mini, which I love.
Good luck & enjoy the journey.

 

[killatoyota4569]

Of the two, I prefer cartos. They don't leak as much with major elevation changes which is pretty important where I live. If I lived in Nebraska or Iowa, that wouldn't matter at all - I live at 5100' & in less than an hour I can dip down to 4800' & go back up to 8000'+. A couple of days ago I was almost at 10,000'. A clearo would've been a massive leaky mess. A carto would've tried to flood, but it would've been much easier to control.

Also cartos have a pretty steep learning curve to them. Clearos are much easier out of the box.

Thanks for the post. I dont live in elavtations like you do so I dont think I have much to worry about there. I just am hoping one doesnt leak in ones pocket hahaha.
Do you have a link that talks about each clearos and cartos explaining the difference between the two? I havent found much and would love to learn more and more.

 

[killatoyota4569]

I like HHV for NETs. They have a good extraction process that makes for some very clean e-liquid. There's a few more now, but this is a post I wrote a few months ago about the HHV NETs (note that not all of their tobacco flavors are NETs - personally I don't care for the synthetics at all).

-----

Dark Horse - sweet, slightly grassy/earthy, pipe & cigarette tobacco qualities
Dragon's Fire - rich, bold pipe tobacco, a bit earthy with a graham cracker sweetness.
Gaia - newest one, said to be simple & earthy
Heavenly Army - flavorful, but light, "creamy"
Huntsman - tastes like a Necco wafer.
Jiggy - Fruit/floral, hint of tobacco
Legend - pipe tobacco, very subtle real cherry flavor. No cough syrup or candy in the cherry flavor.
Oompa - tobacco with a chocolate tone
Pirate's Booty - sweet/spicy Caribbean tobacco
Serendipity - Legend with a longer extraction time
Shadow - said to be lightweight/creamy, but I didn't get that at all out of it.
Sludge - heavy, plum/raisin, light honey tobacco

Haven't tried, no interest
Haven't tried, some interest

Have tried, didn't like
Have tried, like

Of all of them Dark Horse & Legend are frequently loved by people who thought they didn't like tobacco flavored vapes.

awesome post right there man awesome. Good to know and will take that in for a long time. I purchased the Virus from Nico and then bought Sour apple and Grape E from Mt baker I believe. I was going for tastes to see if they actually taste what they are. Then on one site it asked for PG or VG amount and I went 50/50 since I dont know much there either.

I would have thought most to all E liquids would be synthetic. And I see that you have said some are NET. So I guess U like NET better. Now are these harsher hits or taste better than synthetic? there are soo many sites that sell E juice, its hard to figure out what you want and what you like. Some sites have alot some dont.

My buddy just told me theres a vape store here by us. So Im actually going there in a few to check it out. He bought a vapervision e cigg. never heard of them and it looked cheezy. He said he spent over 120 for the stuff but to me looks like a 10 dollar deal haha.

Thanks again buddy

 

[Ozwald]

The ratio is PG/VG. 100/0 is all PG, 0/100 is all VG & 50/50 is equal amounts of both. PG is harsh, it gives us that mouthfeel & that hit in the back of the throat like we're smoking. Too much of it & you'll get a real sore throat. VG makes the vapor. It's thick & sweet with very little hit to the throat. 50/50 is a good balance of both. You still get a little bit of that throat hit, but it's easier on your throat. You also get more vapor from it. I like 50/50 myself.

The synthetics are just like any other flavoring... just a chemical mix that's supposed to taste like the real thing. With tobaccos they rarely do. NETs (emphasis on the NE... Naturally Extracted) is when you take real tobacco & soak it in PG. You filter out all the leaves & particles & use the liquid as flavoring. It tastes real because it is real. Most tobacco e-liquid is synthetic & most people don't like them. A good NET is hard to come by.

 

[Stewbacca]

Oz is giving you great advice. I just wanted to add my voice to his on the battery thing. Go to RTD or Provape for genuine AW IMR battery's. There are too many fakes out there on fleabay. Provaris were designed to use AW's. Get real ones. Cheap battery's are false economy as well as potentially being dangerous.

Good job Oz.

 

[Ozwald]

Oz is giving you great advice. I just wanted to add my voice to his on the battery thing. Go to RTD or Provape for genuine AW IMR battery's. There are too many fakes out there on fleabay. Provaris were designed to use AW's. Get real ones. Cheap battery's are false economy as well as potentially being dangerous.

Good job Oz.

We took the convo to PM's for a bit yesterday, but I explained further about why fake batteries can be so dangerous & pointed out that the eBay batteries he was looking at were indeed fakes. Man, they were close if you didn't know what to look for. (RoHS vs ROHS & the logo was slightly off). Anyways, we're all on board with RTD now.

I've bought a few batteries from ProVape, but only because I was already getting free shipping with a ProVari. Otherwise the RTD is just so much cheaper for them & you can guarantee you're getting the real deal. I just got an RTD shipment last week... a new Kick2, an AW 490 & I'm giving the Panasonic NCR18650PF a try. Not a huge amp limit (10A IIRC), but they seem to almost hover at 3.7 forever. I needed a good 650 in case there's an issue with the Kick again. My last one died, I think from accidental no-load firing. That's why I always play it safe with the Provari & never check the battery or anything else that fires it without an atty attached. I think they have protection for that, but better safe than sorry.

 

[Baditude]

Do you have a link that talks about each clearos and cartos explaining the difference between the two? I havent found much and would love to learn more and more.

Proper Terminology: Is it a carto, a tank, or what?

 

[killatoyota4569]

The ratio is PG/VG. 100/0 is all PG, 0/100 is all VG & 50/50 is equal amounts of both. PG is harsh, it gives us that mouthfeel & that hit in the back of the throat like we're smoking. Too much of it & you'll get a real sore throat. VG makes the vapor. It's thick & sweet with very little hit to the throat. 50/50 is a good balance of both. You still get a little bit of that throat hit, but it's easier on your throat. You also get more vapor from it. I like 50/50 myself.

The synthetics are just like any other flavoring... just a chemical mix that's supposed to taste like the real thing. With tobaccos they rarely do. NETs (emphasis on the NE... Naturally Extracted) is when you take real tobacco & soak it in PG. You filter out all the leaves & particles & use the liquid as flavoring. It tastes real because it is real. Most tobacco e-liquid is synthetic & most people don't like them. A good NET is hard to come by.

When purchasing Ejuices from sites how do you know if it is NET or Synthetic?? I bought some Ejuices from 2 different sites. I got Beteljuice from Nico and Sour Apple and Grape E from MT bakor. I was looking more for taste you could say. I love sour apple and was hoping it would be that taste I get when vaping. I hope I got some good stuff and not some cheapo Ejuice, haha

 

[killatoyota4569]

Proper Terminology: Is it a carto, a tank, or what?

Thank you sir!!

 

[Ozwald]

When purchasing Ejuices from sites how do you know if it is NET or Synthetic?? I bought some Ejuices from 2 different sites. I got Beteljuice from Nico and Sour Apple and Grape E from MT bakor. I was looking more for taste you could say. I love sour apple and was hoping it would be that taste I get when vaping. I hope I got some good stuff and not some cheapo Ejuice, haha

If it doesn't say, it's most likely synthetic. You definitely won't be finding NETs at MBV (Mt. Baker).