New to Vaping - Looking for advice on e-juice trends

[JaxMike]

Hi Aluren...

I started like you... an exhaustive web search led me to the inescapable conclusion that V2 was the best out there. They've done a remarkable job with their marketing program.

Anyway, I went all in... bought the huge kit with 3 bats, plus a power e-cig, and a charger case, car charger, etc etc.

I know now that I should've done a little more research (I didn't even know that 501's existed, lol). But, not much regret. I like the size of the V2s, and love all the gadgetry. So far everything works well, except that I think most of the prefilleds that came with my kit were basically dry. I'm sure I'll upgrade my hardware soon enough, but no rush. So excited to be 3 weeks smoke-free.

Bought some Kanger e-smart clearos, and love them. Much better than the prefilled carts from V2, and some V2 juice.

I'm not veteran enough to advise you on liquids. I'm considering a buy on some Halo Tribeca or some of their other tobacco flavors, which I read are very good, and I prefer tobacco to sweetened products. Anyone have any comment on those?

 

[southern steam]

Typically higher PG means a stronger "throat hit" and less smoke, and higher VG means more vapor but feels "empty". A 50/50 mix is a great start, but it's worth exploring other ratios. 18mg is a good start for a pack a day, though anywhere between 10-15mg is popular for ecigs. Congrats on quitting smoking!

Southern Steam uses 50/50 and comes in 0, 6, 12, 18, and 24mg liquids if you're curious

 

[aluren]

I've found that sometimes when I replace coil heads if I don't get them on just right, it will not fire. They may not be inserted far enough.
The "pin" (bottom of the coil head) needs to be flush or just a hair extended beyond the chamber you put it into. This "pin" must touch the "pin" on your device. If not, it will never fire as there is no contact to the power source.

I don't know the details of ProTanks leaking, but if it is just a drop I wouldn't be concerned. Just clean it off. This can easily occur and I find it sometimes means it's time to change the "topper"/coil or will be shortly.

Vaping can be a bit "futzy" from time to time. Try not to get too frustrated if things aren't perfect all the time.

Interesting. I'll check the coil head again and report back. But I do get firing out of it. The best way I can describe it is that the coil head is "boiling" the liquid, and I get this popping sound. It's just not vaporizing the juice...

But yeah you're right, I guess I shouldn't get too frustrated over a sub-$20 tank. Hopefully the Aspire Nautilus is of better quality!

 

[aluren]

Not counting the 5 or 10 plastic tanks that I no longer use; I have 4 protanks, and recently got 11 miniprotanks. Got enough mini's to give away to smokers.

And got a genisis last week.

That's alot of tanks! Does the juice degrade overtime if it's kept in a tank unused for extended periods? Would the coils/wicks degrade as well?

 

[aluren]

Hi Aluren...

I started like you... an exhaustive web search led me to the inescapable conclusion that V2 was the best out there. They've done a remarkable job with their marketing program.

Anyway, I went all in... bought the huge kit with 3 bats, plus a power e-cig, and a charger case, car charger, etc etc.

I know now that I should've done a little more research (I didn't even know that 501's existed, lol). But, not much regret. I like the size of the V2s, and love all the gadgetry. So far everything works well, except that I think most of the prefilleds that came with my kit were basically dry. I'm sure I'll upgrade my hardware soon enough, but no rush. So excited to be 3 weeks smoke-free.

Bought some Kanger e-smart clearos, and love them. Much better than the prefilled carts from V2, and some V2 juice.

I'm not veteran enough to advise you on liquids. I'm considering a buy on some Halo Tribeca or some of their other tobacco flavors, which I read are very good, and I prefer tobacco to sweetened products. Anyone have any comment on those?

Cool story! Glad I'm not the only that fell for the V2 marketing! j/k.... Since getting my Provari, I haven't touched the V2's. But like you said, I also like the portability factor and the fact that it look and feels like a real cig. I think I'm gonna get their refillable carto's and just use the V2's when I go out. I find that the Provari is a little bulky to put in my pocket and fearing that the juice will leak or the tank will crack if I sit down or something...

Congrats on being 3 weeks smoke-free! I'm into my 3rd day and so far so good. And the signature thing that tells you how much money you saved really helps too. I actually look forward to checking it everyday lol

 

[aluren]

Typically higher PG means a stronger "throat hit" and less smoke, and higher VG means more vapor but feels "empty". A 50/50 mix is a great start, but it's worth exploring other ratios. 18mg is a good start for a pack a day, though anywhere between 10-15mg is popular for ecigs. Congrats on quitting smoking!

Southern Steam uses 50/50 and comes in 0, 6, 12, 18, and 24mg liquids if you're curious

Yeah I think eventually I'll settle with 50/50 mix. But I'm gonna try out every combo just to see. I'm actually getting used to 18mg now as it isn't as harsh as it was at first. Not sure if that's a good thing!

Nice website! I think your subscription model is very smart. Haven't seen many juice vendors do that.

 

[Schwiggiddy]

I'm using the Kanger Protank 2 stock. I read up on the ohms/volts thing and I tuned it to the recommended levels (2.7 ohm and 3.4 volts). Is the harshness of the 18mg just something I'm not used to or is it something to do with my setup?

Thanks for the info. I didn't think about the 100 VG thick cloud/clog issue. Let's see how good this Protank 2 is. lol

Hello and welcome! I was lurking through this thread and saw the above post and since nobody brought it up, I thought I'd comment. On a bottom-coil tank, with 2.7 ohm single coil atty, you should have that thing up higher than 3.4V, probably more like 4.4V, plus or minus depending on the flavor, pg/vg ratio, etc. 2.7 ohm in my PT at 3.4V would not produce very good vapor, and would probably force me to suck a little harder, causing some soreness in my throat. Vaping should be natural IMO, closer to breathing than to smoking. Hope this helps, YMMV.

 

[edyle]

Interesting. I'll check the coil head again and report back. But I do get firing out of it. The best way I can describe it is that the coil head is "boiling" the liquid, and I get this popping sound. It's just not vaporizing the juice...

But yeah you're right, I guess I shouldn't get too frustrated over a sub-$20 tank. Hopefully the Aspire Nautilus is of better quality!

Yup that's what its supposed to sound like; it's music to my ears; means my thingy is working

 

[edyle]

That's alot of tanks! Does the juice degrade overtime if it's kept in a tank unused for extended periods? Would the coils/wicks degrade as well?

When I got my first glass tank, I stopped using my plastic ones, but I have eliquid in one of them; and occasionally I'd just take a pull on it; and I found that over several weeks it tasted more plasticy each time; so I'd be more concerned about the container contaminating the eliquid, than the eliquid itself degrading.

As for degrading of the eliq, that would depend on the composition of the eliq; most of mine are in the pharmacy type darkened glass bottles; most of the commercial bottles I got however are just plain clear plastic ones; like I got a couple hangsen bottles;

nicotine is supposed to turn yellowish over time.

Some eliquids also need time to 'steep', so freshly made eliquids sometimes are better off being left alone for a few weeks anyway.

 

[edyle]

Yeah I think eventually I'll settle with 50/50 mix. But I'm gonna try out every combo just to see. I'm actually getting used to 18mg now as it isn't as harsh as it was at first. Not sure if that's a good thing!

Nice website! I think your subscription model is very smart. Haven't seen many juice vendors do that.

I think the good place to START is 50/50, and gradually adjust from there. Slooooowly. Taste is something you can get used to.
Also I keep some 24mg 'cuba cigar' eliq in a tank and take an occasional puff, but sometimes if I'm having tank trouble with my main tank I ended up using that 24mg tank to vape away and I've found it ... well you can get used to it; and no I don't think thats a good thing; I think when you get used to high throat hit, you become less sensitive to it, and notice it less when it shouldn't be there; I mean like when you get a slight dry hit, you're less likely to notice it if you are already vaping something with a high throat hit.

Another thing to consider is to get 100%PG with 24mg nic, and get yourself USP grade glycerine from the pharmacy and blend it down yourself; half fill a small bottle with the 100/0 PG/VG 24mg, add the next half with VG, shake, and voila! you now have 50/50 PG/VG @ 12mg for almost half the price.

 

[edyle]

I'm using the Kanger Protank 2 stock. I read up on the ohms/volts thing and I tuned it to the recommended levels (2.7 ohm and 3.4 volts). Is the harshness of the 18mg just something I'm not used to or is it something to do with my setup?

Thanks for the info. I didn't think about the 100 VG thick cloud/clog issue. Let's see how good this Protank 2 is. lol

Where did you see that 2.7 ohm? Did you measure it yourself? Was the meter calibrated to measure zero correctly? I suspect you needed to check the zero offset on your ohmmeter; the coils tend to come as 1.8 2.2 and 2.5

 

[Arch]

I personally started buying juices from MtBakerVapor at 18mg of nicotine coming from being a pack a day smoker for 5 years. It was too harsh and I dropped down to 12mg. I currently get all of my e-juices at FuzionVapor.com because I've yet to find anyone with better quality e-juice. It's just hands down amazing for every flavor.

 

[Don Robertson]

My Kanger Protank 2 is now leaking into the battery. I could see the juices seeping into it. I switched to the other coil that came in the box and for some reason it doesn't light up. Very disappointed in this. I will never buy a Kanger product again. My Nautilus can't come soon enough!

And it begins......... do some research. "Seeping" is fairly normal do to the design. A "flood" of 'juice' is not; "never" is a long time.

Overtightening a battery on a charger can contribute to the 'pin issue as can overtightening the tank. Research the PT here on ECF - some cuss it - many love it - many many can help you - without question it works if understood in it's entirety. Tossing it would be foolish and wasteful - no matter the alternative you might choose.

Don

*** AND ............ you'll find MANY a "veteran" who says "POPPING" means you have it setup "just right". More research needed. It's all here ........ don't give that PT a toss.

 

[Grimmda]

Backwoodsbrew.net, flavorz by joe and dojovape are my favs thus far. Avoid what appear to be no brand generic juice on the cheap.

 

[mrfollis]

Their is an app for android and possibly iphones called sweet spot sweet spot, you enter the resistance and it gives you a recommended range. Some what good, then theirs vaper's toolbox which is great for rebuildables. Hope this helps at all.
Thank you all.

 

[mrfollis]

Sorry on the ejuice my choice is mr.good vape Dabble Dooyah, since I can't taste much else on duel coils. Overkill on taste buds, also Five Pawns is awesome but very expensive, and their best stuff comes out once a year!!! My advice is go to a vape store and bring your equipment to try their tasters and get ideas of what you like. Please remember to bring something to take notes or you will absolutly forget soon, since their are so many options. Something like taste, throat hit, vapor. Good luck and keep vaping..

 

[aluren]

Yup that's what its supposed to sound like; it's music to my ears; means my thingy is working

Yeah but mine doesn't produce any vapor. It just "pop" and "fizz" the e-juice all over the place, sort of like hot oil in a frying pan... I bought a 5 pack coil replacement. The first one did the same thing, but the second one worked... I guess it's a crap shoot...

 

[aluren]

And it begins......... do some research. "Seeping" is fairly normal do to the design. A "flood" of 'juice' is not; "never" is a long time.

Overtightening a battery on a charger can contribute to the 'pin issue as can overtightening the tank. Research the PT here on ECF - some cuss it - many love it - many many can help you - without question it works if understood in it's entirety. Tossing it would be foolish and wasteful - no matter the alternative you might choose.

Don

*** AND ............ you'll find MANY a "veteran" who says "POPPING" means you have it setup "just right". More research needed. It's all here ........ don't give that PT a toss.

I still have the PT2, since it's the only tank I have lol... I almost tossed it and bought a pack of cigs, especially after buying some new coils which didn't work either... I have the Nautilus coming this week, and I will brace myself for any issues I'm going to have with it.

 

[aluren]

I'm almost done with my first sampler set of juices. I think I'm gonna try the stuff from Backwoods Brew and Ahlusion, and maybe also Five Pawns at a local vape shop. It's good I bought a sampler, because so far I know I don't like tobacco flavors juices, for some reason it makes me want to have a real cig.

 

[aluren]

Where did you see that 2.7 ohm? Did you measure it yourself? Was the meter calibrated to measure zero correctly? I suspect you needed to check the zero offset on your ohmmeter; the coils tend to come as 1.8 2.2 and 2.5

I got the 2.7ohm reading from my Provari. But yeah, the protank coil was 2.2ohm. Was it my Provari reading it wrong or the coils were screwed up?