New to WTA

[r77r7r]

Going to try some to help with my Auto-immune disease problem, need all the help I can get.

May I have some feedback on your favorites Please?? Aroma doesn't seem to be able to keep stock up, so I'm looking at MM or Wholecig I guess.

Nicotine itself helps many of us A-I people and I have kept my levels at 12mg/ml for the last few years, but am not getting any healthier.

I'm an Unflavored user so it's got to taste fine like that. Also, since it's very expensive, can I use it less than straight and still find it effective??

TY All, R7

 

[dirfm]

I have nothing to say in regards to A-I, I do not know enough about it, but I can offer some information regarding WTA...

I use unflavored nic and 100% VG at 12 mg. I also use WTA from Whole Cig and I have nothing but good things to say about the customer service and quality. I purchase the 30 ml base in the strength that makes the most economical sense at the time of purchase - generally 24 mg or 36 mg. They will also sometimes run specials on the larger sizes or offer a coupon code (I always try and search for a coupon when ordering or try something like ECF5/ECF10, etc.).

As for mixing - I dilute mine with 100% VG to the strength I like, in this case 12 mg, and then add a drop of the diluted WTA into the juice I have mixed at about 1 drop per ml. of unflavored juice. For example, 30 drops of my diluted WTA into a 30 ml bottle of unflavored juice. This seems to work quite well for me but you could also add more drops of the WTA until you reach the level you are comfortable with. I do not notice a change in flavor at all.

Hope this helps.

 

[snork]

Aroma is available most all the time, right now as a matter of fact.
If you decide that WTA is for you, get some eventually. Don't gyp yourself.

 

[r77r7r]

TY. Guess it's going to take awhile until I find a level that works. Does anyone vape this DIY UNflavored, or even mixed- at full strength? Are their side effects from using full strength?

 

[r77r7r]

Aroma is available most all the time, right now as a matter of fact.
If you decide that WTA is for you, get some eventually. Don't gyp yourself.

It sounds like great stuff, was just worried about availability if I need to use it full strength- 35ml per week.

 

[snork]

TY. Guess it's going to take awhile until I find a level that works. Does anyone vape this DIY UNflavored, or even mixed- at full strength? Are their side effects from using full strength?

You betcha! The only way I vape it is straight, dripped. Super yummy. No side effects for me, but I suppose there could be if you don't tolerate 24mg nic. Strong throat hit even considering it's VG.

 

[snork]

It sounds like great stuff, was just worried about availability if I need to use it full strength- 35ml per week.

Yes, that would be a bunch.

 

[r77r7r]

I thought DVAP (?)was pushing him to get this into higher production, lol. I wanna gallon to start off

 

[snork]

I thought DVAP (?)was pushing him to get this into higher production, lol. I wanna gallon to start off

He actually ramped it up quite a bit in collaboration with DVap, and further serious investigation into different (and amazingly mind-boggling and expensive) high-volume extraction methods took place. There comes a point though when you have to come to a balance of investment in time, equipment and sales. WTA is and maybe forever will be a niche product.
At any rate try Aroma someday. Compare them all.

 

[township]

Going to try some to help with my Auto-immune disease problem, need all the help I can get.

May I have some feedback on your favorites Please?? Aroma doesn't seem to be able to keep stock up, so I'm looking at MM or Wholecig I guess.

Nicotine itself helps many of us A-I people and I have kept my levels at 12mg/ml for the last few years, but am not getting any healthier.

I'm an Unflavored user so it's got to taste fine like that. Also, since it's very expensive, can I use it less than straight and still find it effective??

TY All, R7

If you vape unflavored, you should try a small bottle of each. Because each one has a different taste.

In my opinion,

Wholecig has the least amount of taste. Aroma has a very pleasant light flavor. MM has a more distinct tobacco flavor. I usually mix 36mg per 15ml bottle (1ml of Wholecig 36mg per 15ml, or 1.5ml of Aroma 24mg or MM 24mg). Then I use nic only to bring the total up to the desired strength.

All three are effective. Personally I like Aroma's best. It really is worth it to try all three, and then choose the one you like best.

Good luck

 

[DVap]

He actually ramped it up quite a bit in collaboration with DVap, and further serious investigation into different (and amazingly mind-boggling and expensive) high-volume extraction methods took place. There comes a point though when you have to come to a balance of investment in time, equipment and sales. WTA is and maybe forever will be a niche product.
At any rate try Aroma someday. Compare them all.

We're not out of ideas for ramping up further. There's a devilishly simple idea I came up with some months ago to blow the lid off of production, but both Jerry and I are terribly busy and neither of us has had time to test for effectiveness so it remains on the back burner. Come to think of it, I'll be on vacation next week and my wife will be in Hawaii, so their won't be anybody around to give me the stink-eye if I experiment a bit...

 

[Nermal]

The only unflavored I can find at Aroma is in 100% vg. Am I looking in the wrong place?

 

[Johntodd]

I use WTA ... and it made the difference I needed to stop smoking.

MM WTA does have more flavor in their unflavored DIY liquid.

You won't need to vape it straight. The extra alkaloids in WTA have a much longer half-life in the body and you should be able to vape it maybe once or twice a day mixed in with something else. Each of us is different, of course. I just vape a dripper full in the morning with coffee, and then I'm good for the whole day.

Bear in mind, all WTA products seem to hit the throat harder than the regular ejuice. Another reason to mix it.

Hope this helps!
-Johntodd

 

[r77r7r]

TY, Johntodd. Yeah, maybe I won't need to use it straight. It's going to be a long test for me, but if it helps it'll be great for me and those fellow suffers I keep in contact with.

Some of our meds are fairly costly, and toxic.
Some of us respond well to just nicotine patches. But the medical data ( PubMed) seems to support some additional chemicals found in cigs beyond just nicotine.

 

[Johntodd]

Please understand that I don't understand your medical condition. So, I just try to help by offering ideas I've heard from others.

Some around here mix 10% WTA with their regular juices and vape in the regular way during the day. They may/may not wean themselves down after a while.

 

[r77r7r]

Please understand that I don't understand your medical condition. So, I just try to help by offering ideas I've heard from others.

Some around here mix 10% WTA with their regular juices and vape in the regular way during the day. They may/may not wean themselves down after a while.

Yeah, sorry about that.

 

[Johntodd]

It is no problem at all. If I had my way, all would be healthy, and we'd be colonizing Mars by now.

 

[oplholik]

Can someone tell me approx. how much wta 12mg I would have to vape to equal 3-4 cigs a day? Thanks.

 

[Johntodd]

Can someone tell me approx. how much wta 12mg I would have to vape to equal 3-4 cigs a day? Thanks.

It's do very different with vaping ... and, IMO, even more so with WTA.

I smoked 1PAD up to 1 1/2 PAD. So I should be requiring a lot of chemicals in my body. But I only need WTA once a day in the mornings and I have absolutely no problems with withdrawal.

That's why I think people should start light on WTA and go UP if they need more, rather than starting heavy and getting all f*ed up on it and having to back down.

 

[Cullin Kin]

Sorry guys, I'm a total new when it comes to this stuff but I'm genuinely curious. What are WTA's? Whole Tobacco Alkaloids right? And how do they help with this medically?