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[Bigflyrodder]

True enough, I can see better starter kits and have no doubt we will see them soon. My point is just that some sort of starter kit, being simple and cost effective, will have a place in the grand scheme of things. I know that for myself, if I had walked into that B&M out of curiosity, and they tried to sell me a $150 package I would have walked back out and would still be on the cigs.

 

[Tinkiegrrl]

True enough, I can see better starter kits and have no doubt we will see them soon. My point is just that some sort of starter kit, being simple and cost effective, will have a place in the grand scheme of things. I know that for myself, if I had walked into that B&M out of curiosity, and they tried to sell me a $150 package I would have walked back out and would still be on the cigs.

Variable volt can come quite cheaply now. My first set up was a generic variable volt, 650 mAh, passthrough ego with a bottom coil clearo that took Evod coils. It was $15. They still have that same starter kit at that vendor, for the same price, only they upgraded the clearo to an actual Evod. It was a 5 click to the next voltage type, which allowed for a mini USB charging port on the bottom to make it a passthrough.

 

[Bikenstein]

True enough, I can see better starter kits and have no doubt we will see them soon. My point is just that some sort of starter kit, being simple and cost effective, will have a place in the grand scheme of things. I know that for myself, if I had walked into that B&M out of curiosity, and they tried to sell me a $150 package I would have walked back out and would still be on the cigs.

Like all electronic items, they are so cheap to manufacture, prices will continue to drop and quality/ features will increase.

 

[edyle]

I see a market for fixed voltage and cig-a-likes no matter how popular VV becomes. My local B&M serves quite a few "older" vapers. I am 40 myself so I am no spring chicken but I say older meaning folks more my parents' age. A few of them come in a couple times a week to get help filling their tanks. I don't see someone like that caring about VV or mods or dripping. They just want something to keep them from smoking. I see that demographic maintaining a demand for simple setups.

For the most part I see VV the same way you do but I don't think it will ever cause fixed voltage setups to die out totally. Like you, I am purely speculating based on what I have seen around here. It will be interesting to see how vaping grows in the next few years.

I think you'd be right - IF 'fixed voltage' really was fixed voltage.

But it's actually a misnomer; your simple older vaper who just wants to not smoke those smokies would really rather just having a simple fixed voltage battery that doesn't keep dropping voltage and getting weaker ; as soon as they figure out its oppositespeak, they'll go for the 'variable voltage' batteries, where you set set the voltage and the voltage does not keep varying...

 

[chrisj3982]

Yea, I did the whole progression thing myself, now I recommend the step ups to people interested in making the change. Saves them money and the inevitable aggravation when you realize you still don't have what you really want or need in the basic pv


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[serenity21899]

When I got started, I knew nothing about vape shops, or this forum, or anything. I started with cigalikes. Once I found ECF, they told me to try a Ego Twist, so I did. Glass clearo options were not available yet, so I also had Kanger t2s and Vision Vivi Novas. When I found the only vape shop in my area at the time, they only had the bigger batteries, like Twists and Spinners.

So, knowing nothing about that type of battery, I would recommend a Twist or Spinner to a newbie. They are readily available at all of the vape shops near me. I don't think any of them even sell the smaller ones.

 

[Caffeine7]

It's a good thing for new people to get better stuff up front. With more people vaping and getting their friends off cigs there is more info available. I've referred many smoker friends here after trying my set ups after trying the cigalikes and being turned off to the whole thing. If someone has a good setup they are more likely to stick with it

 

[Bikenstein]

Yea, I did the whole progression thing myself, now I recommend the step ups to people interested in making the change. Saves them money and the inevitable aggravation when you realize you still don't have what you really want or need in the basic pv


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I agree 100%

 

[edyle]

There would also be more people who upgrade their own setup and give the old one to somebody to try, who then soon goes out and gets an 'upgrade' as their first purchase.

 

[Bikenstein]

True enough, I can see better starter kits and have no doubt we will see them soon. My point is just that some sort of starter kit, being simple and cost effective, will have a place in the grand scheme of things. I know that for myself, if I had walked into that B&M out of curiosity, and they tried to sell me a $150 package I would have walked back out and would still be on the cigs.

You can go to a local shop here an get a VV setup for less than 50. Contrary to popular belief, many smokers have intelligence to a degree where they can make decisions for themselves if offered options. I see many go in and buy the same cheap setup because they are most often too shy to ask questions with others hangin out, puffin away and talkin a strange language. They know they want to start vapin and have many questions but they are in strange territory and just aren't about to do anything but listen to the salesperson, buy and get out. It's akin to a person signin up for a gym membership with a bunch of muscleheads hangin out talkin reps and sets. Things are changing though with more qualified sales people. Still smokers ain't all dumb just because they started smoking

 

[deanthemachine]

My first purchase a week after the blue was an MVP. I went in knowing I was going to have to drop some coin to get something good. It was on sale for 60 down from 120 (I know right) and I am so thankful I did it that way. I still remember the feeling I got the first time I hit it while sitting in my car. I heard harp music and saw angels

 

[FatCatNat]

Having gone through the Blu, Ego C, Twist, VV3, Vamo V5 and MVP progression it occurs to me that there are basically two kinds of vapers; those who just want to quit smoking but still need their nic and those who become hobbyists. Kind of like cig smokers and those who prefer a pipe or cigar. The former accept their addiction and seek the simplest solution. The latter become hobbyists, enjoying their equipment collections and fuel as a pastime that also satisfies their addictive needs. Like folks who see a car as merely transportation and those who truly enjoy the experience of driving.
As long as nicotine remains so insidiously addictive those two categories will remain valid. Both types of vapers are served by improved products. And just as there is a market for simple, inexpensive basic transportation as well as performance and luxury cars, there will be markets for cigalikes and apv's. Hopefully improvements in quality and manufacturing consistency will provide lots of options for all vapers.
IMHO, the tobacco industry will move toward dominance of the "addict" market while makers of higher priced APV's will cater to the "hobbyists".

Just my

 

[Moaufan]

The day I went to get my first set up I spied the MVP2. When I asked the sales associate about it I was quickly told that it was for advanced vapors. So I ended up buying 2 winders and 2 pt2 minis. I came home and watched a 10 minute video and bought one the next week. If he had taken a few minutes to go over the basics I would have purchased it. I guess the old saying about everything happens for a reason holds true once again. I lend my winders to friends and family that want to try vaping. They have helped 9 out of 11 join the vapor world and 8 out of 9 purchased a MVP2 as their first set up.

 

[Raths]

Oru first setups were the simple battery and disposable tank that you get at a convenience store. Got them on sale for $10 each. I wasn't into them, or vaping, wife loved them. We have since given them away and one person has quit analogs completely. The wife moved to vv then a vv/vw, both smoktech brands, and is very happy there. I moved to a Zmax with a protank clone and am seriously looking at mechs and drip tips. I'll probably never be done looking at "toys" and my wife just wants backups of what she has. She is in the "just trying to get off the analogs and can vape in the house" camp, while I have made it a hobby. Lots of room for all levels and tastes!

 

[tj99959]

The real problem is that there are way to many UNSAFE ego knock-offs out there to suggest eGo's anymore.
Joyetech managed to KILL their own market with their "price fixing".