New Trustfire IMR Batteries (18650 & 18350)

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BostonJim

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I got Trustfire batteries with my kit a little over a month ago. I don't know a lot about batteries so I just used them as directed. I have NOT had any problem with them so far. They do not get hot when in use or charging. They work fine. I make sure I use precautions. But if I have any issue I'll get rid of them, just like I would with any potentially dangerous product.
 

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haha Badittude, well said!!! "I wouldn't trust any battery with "-fire" in the name." :)

I was actually on a website that had these for very cheap, but one thing I know, and all vapers should know (if they don't already), you can be cheap with mods, egos, cartos, clearos, rbas, etc etc, BUT NOT BATTERIES!!!

none of those things can hurt or kill ya (unless your getting beat over the head with one) BUT CHEAP BATTERIES CAN, and I'm sure in many instances, they have.

A few weeks back I was browsing the forum, and I came across a few threads of "Battery Horror Stories"...so people, spend the extra $3-$5 dollars
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btw, good batteries can cause damage too if you don't use them properly, but much less of a chance...So, Increase your odds


with all that said, I don't have anything against the Trustfire company, this is all in my humble factual :) opinion
 

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I thought the amount of charge/discharge cycles didn't mean a lot for these types of batteries? I read somewhere these batteries are meant to last about 1 year from date of manufacture. Is this true? I'm sure many have had batteries longer, but are they even safe to use after 12 months? Maybe this is why certain vendors have such 'great' prices on batteries- they are near their 12 month mark. It would be nice if they came with a manufacture date. I figured the ones I got are probably a couple months old, so backdated the date I wrote on them with a Sharpie.
 

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Your battery specs say they are Li-ion batteries. That doesn't sound like an IMR, which is called Li-Mn (lithium-manganese). That coupled with no charging or discharging specs makes me highly suspicious.

As others have said, I wouldn't trust anything with the word "fire" in the name. Historically they have proven themselves to be junk.

Li-Ion is a general type of batteries, Li-Mn is one of the many chemistry in this category... Li-Mn chemistry is more prevalent because it's much more tolerant to mishandling and misuse...

There are others, LiFePo4, Li-Po, etc...
 

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I thought the amount of charge/discharge cycles didn't mean a lot for these types of batteries? I read somewhere these batteries are meant to last about 1 year from date of manufacture. Is this true? I'm sure many have had batteries longer, but are they even safe to use after 12 months? Maybe this is why certain vendors have such 'great' prices on batteries- they are near their 12 month mark. It would be nice if they came with a manufacture date. I figured the ones I got are probably a couple months old, so backdated the date I wrote on them with a Sharpie.

How to Prolong Lithium-based Batteries - Battery University

Since batteries are used in demanding environmental conditions, manufacturers take a conservative approach and specify the life of most Li-ion between 300 and 500 discharge/charge cycles.

What I found interesting is our chargers generally charge these batteries up to 4.2 volts. If they could be set to stop charging at 4.1 volts, we'd almost double the life of our batteries.
 

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It seems most of the people commenting here have missed the point entirely. I think the point of the op's question was to know more about these particular batteries not about all the other options. And the reason for asking is that they know already how important it is to know about your batteries and how hard you can safely push them.

A friend of mine has these batteries and I came to this thread looking for information about them to make sure they're not getting pushed too hard. So if anyone knows more specs on them I'm all ears.
 

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haha Badittude, well said!!! "I wouldn't trust any battery with "-fire" in the name." :)

I was actually on a website that had these for very cheap, but one thing I know, and all vapers should know (if they don't already), you can be cheap with mods, egos, cartos, clearos, rbas, etc etc, BUT NOT BATTERIES!!!

none of those things can hurt or kill ya (unless your getting beat over the head with one) BUT CHEAP BATTERIES CAN, and I'm sure in many instances, they have.

A few weeks back I was browsing the forum, and I came across a few threads of "Battery Horror Stories"...so people, spend the extra $3-$5 dollars
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btw, good batteries can cause damage too if you don't use them properly, but much less of a chance...So, Increase your odds




with all that said, I don't have anything against the Trustfire company, this is all in my humble factual :) opinion

Trustfire and ultrafire 18350s gave me great service when I used CE2 at roughly 2 amps.
Seat of pants, they seemed to out perform AW with higher resistance coils.
I'm not convinced they are bad if used for low currents coils; counterfeits may be out there.

I would like to know why the batt in pic vented in my trusty TR-001. Got any details?
 

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No, we didn't miss the point. Any battery with "Fire" in the name shouldn't be trusted. Period. Too many issues with knockoffs and substandard performance.

I would buy the ___Fire IMR batt if my other favorites are not readily available.
Do a 6ish amp voltage drop test.
If it passes it is likely genuine and good.
 

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I might be blowing smoke-----well you get the idea---

but I was told any charger that plugs in the charger itself into the wall, rather than having a cord that plugs in is NOT good.

is that so???

I have used both for a few years now; they charge slowly but surely. I place charger in metal tool box just in case a batt gets excited. A touch of sense is needed to avoid cutting wires on metal edges. I'm confident the box would contain a vent event.
 

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Any battery with "fire" in the name shouldn't be trusted.

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The only battery that I have had vent/explode in a mod was a Trustfire.

At that point, I threw all of my remaining Trustfires away and have used primarily AW IMR (safe chemistry) batteries.

IMR and the newer hybrid batteries are inherently safer chemistry than protected ICR chemistry batteries. They are more tolerent to heat build-up and other stress factors, and should they vent it will be less dramatically than a flamable ICR battery which may vent flames and possibly explode.

BATTERY BASICS FOR MODS: IMR OR PROTECTED ICR?

DEEPER UNDERSTANDING OF MOD BATTERIES
 
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What do you guys think about these trustfire imr batteries. They are definitely cheaper than the AW Batteries but how do they perform?


18650

BATTERY CAPACITY (MFG RATED)


1500 mAh
BATTERY CHEMISTRYLi-Ion
BATTERY FEATURERechargeable
BATTERY FORM FACTOR18650
BATTERY MAXIMUM VOLTAGE4.2±0.05 V
BATTERY RATED VOLTAGE

Price 2pcs*
3.7 v

$6.39
18350

BATTERY CAPACITY (MFG RATED)


800 mAh
BATTERY CHEMISTRYLi-Ion
BATTERY FEATURERechargeable
BATTERY FORM FACTOR18350
BATTERY MAXIMUM VOLTAGE4.2±0.05 V
BATTERY RATED
VOLTAGE

Price 2pcs*
3.7 V


$5.93

18650 Available here & 18350 Available here

Is there really such thing as Trustfire Poducts anymore?

I mean, Trustfire Batteries have been Cloned, Bootlegged, Knocked-Off and Copied for So Long, do Real Trustfire Batteries even Exist?
 

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Hello, any info on the new "silver" TrustFire 18350 IMRs? I'm extremely happy with all my TF 1200mAh protected batteries and would like to get a hold of four IMRs for my mech as well. Also, can't really see why people praise AWs since newer Efest and TrustFires are tested to be good enough and are like HALF the price? Tests in the flashlight forums clearly show that the difference in performance of TF and Efest IMRs is not far from what you get from an AW. The mAh ratings of some TFs are a tiny bit optimistic but rather than that can't say TF is a bad battery, just the opposite. And please stop with the FAKES paranoia - the chance to get a fake TF is just as bgreat as the chance to get a fake AW - this happens only if you buy off eBay and that's not the smartest thing you can do. TangsFire and SureFire on the other hand are really crappy and dangerous batteries and should be avoided at all costs.
 
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