New user- negative side effects

[dwc2134]

Yes, that's a good idea to try mixing them...luckily the flavours I picked are fairly similar so would mix well.

As for the remainder of the bottle- 11% of it is oils like orange, nutmeg, tobacco absolute, ginger. 4% is alkaloid, 0.5 is trymethylpyrazine, 0.5 is acetylpyrazine, 1 is methyl cyclopentenolene hydrate, 1 is ethyl maltol, 1 menthol. Other than the oils I don't really know what they are or what their purpose is. Does it sound like it's bad liquid?

A quick google search says that those are all flavor additives... but that is a pretty extensive list.

 

[ppeeble]

GO TO THE DOCTORS - I had similar symptoms late last year (headaches, shortness of breath, chest pains) and it turned out i had angina. One stent later and i am back to good health.
I vape virtually constantly anything from 90% PG blends to 95% VG blends and have not had any problems (other than with crappy flavours) !
I also had to drink more water initially but now, after 9 months, i am back to drinking tea and i feel fine.

Good Luck

 

[Bawn]

Chest pains that i experience isn't really a pain it's a heaviness feeling in the lungs. Usually one side. I used to get the same thing if I smoked a whole pack of smokes one night out drinking.

 

[CES]

That the feelings are similar to what you experienced when you smoked too much suggests too much nic is part of it. That said, I'm not very comfortable with oils as flavor additives in your liquid. I'd suggest trying liquid with water soluble flavorings and a lower nic level. And a visit to your doc is still a good idea.

 

[fabricator4]

Hey folks. Been lurking for a few days so thought it time to introduce myself and ask for some e cig brain power. Apologies for my noobishness but I don't know the technical or abbreviated words for things!

If someone uses abbreviations or terms you don't understand just ask. I see you've already made a great start with this.

I smoked my last cigarette a week ago and made the switch to an electronic one with e liquid (pretty sure it's called an ego ce4?). I'm still getting used to the best way to use it but am doing fine with it...except I have a couple issues and I don't know if / how much is to do with the switch- any comments or advice appreciated.

Chest pain- last 2 days I have had pains in 1 side of my chest, from just below my shoulder to just under my rib cage.

Shortness of breath- I can't seem to take a satisfying breath, not exactly shallow breathing but can't quite get a deep enough breath.

I had a similar thing, not exactly pain but an uncomfortable feeling and a heavy feeling, and shortness of breath. I think I'm a little sensitive to PG. Once I started to DIY my juices I switched to up to 40% VG and I don't think it's quite as hard on the breathing apparatus. It also makes more vapour which is satisfying in other ways. I'll re-iterate what other's have told you however - chest pain and shortness of breath are serious symptoms best diagnosed by a doctor.

The improvement in things for me was when I realised that I really didn't need to inhale to absorb the nicotine. While we start out trying to vape the same as we smoked, a slight variation in technique is usually called for. Instead of taking deep drags try taking bum drags and then blow the vapour straight out your nose. The nicotine is absorbed in the sinus tissues in the nose as well or better than anywhere else. I usually get the nicotine 'ping' go off in my head when I do this and it removes any cravings quite successfully. It's a little like using snuff - you may even sneeze, which gives rise to the common vaper's saying, "I'd rather be sneezy than weazy". You can finish this off with another bum drag and short inhale, blowing vapour if you wish. This technique minimises the inhalation of PG and flavouring which are mostly wasted in your lungs in any case. You also get to taste and smell the vapour more, and you will learn more what the flavours are and how they work, and in which devices/coils they work best with.

I still enjoy a full inhale, I just don't do it all the time like I used to. My chest is much happier about this.

Now, after more than three months vaping I can breathe better than I have for years. I enjoy breathing, and can run and do other things that I've avoided for a long time.

I also have a sore throat / dry lips etc but from reading the forum it seems pretty normal to have that.

Ah, even experienced vapours overdo it occasionally, or forget to drink enough water. Drink lots of water, practice the above techniques, and try not to chain vape for too long. Likely you will see some improvement tomorrow, but if you don't consider if the doctor needs to take a look at that too. Giving up smoking knocks the immune system around and sometimes things go out of whack. I found taking a complex designed to support the immune system (garlic, echinacia, zinc, vit c etc) very helpful. If you develop signs of infections (ear ache, headaches, sore throat, mouth ulcers) and they don't clear up or improve in a day or to see a doctor.

Also keep in mind that everyone is different and what works for one person may not be right for another. Take all advice, including mine, as guidelines only. The only sure thing is that you are going to go through a lot of changes in the next few months, and you will have great vaping days, and you'll have crap days too.

Congrats on quitting smoking, and may you have many more good vaping days than crap ones. You'll get a lot of support from people in this forum.

 

[jdrewry]

Lack of water, along with vaping e-liquids that were at too high a level of nicotine, had me feeling like crap at the beginning. More liquids and dialing down the nic level made the difference.

Also make sure your vendor makes decent e-juice; that could be the issue, as well.

 

[fccwpe]

Chest pain and shortness of breath=Doctor. PERIOD!!!!!

You really don't want to play with that monster...

 

[mkbilbo]

Yes, that's a good idea to try mixing them...luckily the flavours I picked are fairly similar so would mix well.

As for the remainder of the bottle- 11% of it is oils like orange, nutmeg, tobacco absolute, ginger. 4% is alkaloid, 0.5 is trymethylpyrazine, 0.5 is acetylpyrazine, 1 is methyl cyclopentenolene hydrate, 1 is ethyl maltol, 1 menthol. Other than the oils I don't really know what they are or what their purpose is. Does it sound like it's bad liquid?

Hm... that's a fairly extensive list. Do you have allergies? Such as seasonal or food? You could be reacting to one or more of the flavorings. In addition to or instead of or some other combination (allergies are such fun... I have them... yay!... not ) to the base liquids. Which are just the plain liquids that everything else is added to. That's the PG and the VG (and in rare cases, another one that I think is abbreviated as PEG?).

If you have a vape shop nearby, you could get drop by and get some very, very plain liquids. Small bottles, not a ton. Even unflavored. Try, say, a 100% PG without any additions. A 100% VG with nothing added. Then move "up" from there. Simple flavors with very few flavorings.

If it's an allergic reaction kind of thing, it could be a real pain to pin down. But jumping into a complex flavor (tasty as it may be) can make it hard to tell what could be causing what.

And I don't know any of what's in the list up there makes a "bad" liquid. The chemical names of ordinary things sound kind of scary. I was just recently making jokes about the "dangers of dihydrogen monoxide". That's the chemical name for water.

(Hey, it is dangerous! You can drown in it!)

One thing that did occur to me this morning is that in smoking, we all inhale into the lungs as that's where the nicotine is absorbed. In vaping, it's absorbed in the mouth and nasal passages. I had to change my inhale to more like a pipe or cigar. Took a little while to shift years of habit around that way but not long. If I inhale any vapor like I did the smoke of a cigarette, I try to cough up a lung.

The positive side of having to shift that habit around is that the lungs don't have taste buds. That is, the best way to do vapor inhalation is the way you get the most taste. Read this article and see if applies in your case:

[url]http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ecf-library/337017-inhalation-technique-e-cigarette.html[/URL]

If I'm getting any vapor in my lungs these days, it's small amounts inadvertently. And I was used to inhaling tobacco smoke deeply. So much so, very little smoke came out when I exhaled. But the thing is, I read the base liquids which make the vapor (and flavorings and nicotine are suspended in) can "coat" the membranes some. Which might explain "heavy" feelings in the chest if you inhale them repeatedly into the lungs.

Now, they are non-toxic and recognized widely by every health agency and regulatory body around as safe. But breathing them into your lungs a lot could easily cause a "heavy" feeling. Maybe even an "achy" kind of thing.

So first thing, don't inhale into the lungs like a cigarette. Do more of a cigar kind of "puff". Draw into your mouth, hold a little, taste the vapor, blow it out. Many (myself included) exhale through the nose. That may mean I'm getting some in the lungs but nothing I've noticed. No coughing, no "heavy" feelings. The nasal exhale gives me more taste (smell being a big, big component in the sense of taste) and picks up some more of the nicotine.

 

[Fury83]

Drink a bunch of water is the first step

The second part is those are all common quitting smoking symptoms. Give it a bit

Oh and if you are going to inhale, bring it into your mouth then lungs.