New website that is doing monthly liquid sampler boxes.

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Stanley LaysaHill

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There is this new service for liquid samples. One of those month box subscriptions. 3 different size subscriptions. Starts at $15 for 25ml, $25 for 50ml, and $45 for a whopping 100ml. And on top of that you may just get a random surprise could be a tank or an ego basically just something nifty to top it off. This guy is just starting off. Best part is that he actually messaged me and was asking me what I would like so user input. I want to help him get the word out. Also for early subscribers. "Earlymember" that codes gets you free shipping FOR LIFE. That works out to be $60 in the first year alone. He is having some issues with his cart right now but should have it running by tomorrow.

I think this is a brilliant idea and i hope you guys do to. I have been in direct contact with him all night. Basically talking his freaking ear off about every little that that i saw. And giving him suggestions. And he implemented almost every single one i gave him. This guy sounds amazing. But anyways I hope you guys think this is as cool as i do. I know that I will be buying my subscription ASAP. On top of that the better and bigger he gets the better stuff we will get each month. Lets help him grow. VAPERS UNITE.
 
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There's no way to see what the juice vendors are, or the juices, it just says choose your plan and then info for your credit card comes up.

This is a joke, right? I'm not going to pay $25 a month at 0.60 a ml to have no idea what samples I"m getting or from who.

There are already sample sites where you can CHOOSE your samples, this isn't one of them I guess.

Suprise! You get a bunch of no name chinese juice?

(As for amazing, the amazing person would be you. It sounds like you gave this vendor a "walk thru" on how to run a business, in real time, as they "implemented" your suggestions. Hope you got paid. :) )

As for free shipping for life, that's a long long time. What makes you think an ejuice vendor will be in business that long? Many have come and gone in the space of a year I've been vaping. But now, they have your credit card number FOR LIFE, too. .....because instead of a one-time purchase, you've bought a *subscription*. :)
 
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My local vape shop has a monthly sampler available, where they try out new flavors. If you want it, you buy it each month, no subscriptions. And they will tell you what's in it, too. Ingredients are important to me due to allergies. And I trust this vendor.

As for the OP, there is no way I would sign up for that deal, especially not knowing anything about the vendor.
 

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I would highly suggest you contact the forum moderators as this could be considered advertising.

The forum has specific rules regarding posts such as these, even if it is legit!

Further as pointed out by other members, this looks and smells a bit fishy, as so do the testimonials on this web site.

Most people that have been vaping 3 or 4 years are not still looking for something new, at least not any I know!

Just my humble opinion.

I also notice you (the original poster) is a new member showing a name as your user ID which is either very honest, or rather odd, and you have not replied to any of our posts yet.

As you may notice I have been around here a long time, I watch a lot....:2cool:
 
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I do a WHOIS search on new sites to see who the assignees are to the domain name and then I look to see what else they are up to.
It's very easy to find "marketers" that way. They excel in marketing....at least, for a few months until they go under, then they find something else to "market".

(Just like I use Google Earth to see the locations of the "labs" that an ejuice maker claims they make juice in........and I land on a 4 unit residential apartment building.)

None of this is rocket science, but i gues I'm always amazed at how few *internet resources* consumers use, while ON the internet, and which are at their disposal, before they make purchases.

In other words, nobody gets my money til they *ante up* cuz I'm no dummy. :) Money is hard to come by and I don't just hand mine out. :)
 

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I also notice you (the original poster) is a new member showing a name as your user ID which is either very honest, or rather odd, and you have not replied to any of our posts yet.

Uh, I was not casting any aspersions on the poster/member, they are verified, and has many posts.

I am just pointing out to him that he "may" be a bit naive, and yes, that this can be seen as advertising

Not sure what you meant about the name, guess I don't get it. Seems like an odd remark to make about another member here.
 

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I do a WHOIS search on new sites to see who the assignees are to the domain name and then I look to see what else they are up to.
It's very easy to find "marketers" that way. They excel in marketing....at least, for a few months until they go under, then they find something else to "market".

(Just like I use Google Earth to see the locations of the "labs" that an ejuice maker claims they make juice in........and I land on a 4 unit residential apartment building.)

None of this is rocket science, but i gues I'm always amazed at how few *internet resources* consumers use, while ON the internet, and which are at their disposal, before they make purchases.

In other words, nobody gets my money til they *ante up* cuz I'm no dummy. :) Money is hard to come by and I don't just hand mine out. :)

Is there anyway someone can lock this thread down or delete it altogether? Advertising a suspicious company without any verifiable history should never be allowed to grace the hallowed ECF threads!
 

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I am a bit skeptical here. While I think this could be a great idea, the site seems a bit sketchy. OP, how have you been in contact with the site owner? I don't see any contact information on the site, let alone a way to email/chat with the owner.

Without any contact info you are not getting my CC info.
 

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The domain name was just registered today: http://www.dailychanges.com/dreamhost.com/2013-10-01/

There is no way the testimonials could be accurate/legitimate. According to a quick Google search for "Tony Mandarano" (the zamplebox domain registered web site owner), he appears to be a broke college kid (Tony Mandarano - Investor Profile). Now this in no way delineates that the web site isn't lagitimate, but I don't think I'll be sending him my credit card number anytime soon!
 

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The domain name was just registered today: http://www.dailychanges.com/dreamhost.com/2013-10-01/

There is no way the testimonials could be accurate/legitimate. According to a quick Google search for "Tony Mandarano" (the zamplebox domain registered web site owner), he appears to be a broke college kid (Tony Mandarano - Investor Profile). Now this in no way delineates that the web site isn't lagitimate, but I don't think I'll be sending him my credit card number anytime soon!

According to GoDaddy the site went live on..... Creation Date: 2013-09-29 17:05:43.
I don't fault someone for being young but do fault them for not having enough information about the product being sold or a way to contact the owner. Sketchy, Sketchy
 

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According to GoDaddy the site went live on..... Creation Date: 2013-09-29 17:05:43.
I don't fault someone for being young but do fault them for not having enough information about the product being sold or a way to contact the owner. Sketchy, Sketchy

No, you're absolutely right. I'm not faulting him for being young or even broke, I'm just voicing my opinion that I won't be sending him my cc number without anyway to verify the business, products, consumer history, or owner. I suspect that the person (Tony) that registered the domain is the business owner (it is an assumption, and yes, I know what they say about those!), but don't have proof. So, except that the domain name was just registered, there is nothing else that is verifiablly factual about the business. The American dream usually starts with a broke kid with a dream, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. But, this has all the hallmarks of bad business/business model (at best), scam, or even credit card fraud (at worst)!
 

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From what I saw he was originally sending out things like then njoy and a little liquid and other 510 style devices. Honestly after talking with the owner Tony on Facebook. He does sound legitimate even actually applying some of the insight I sent his direction. Report me if you want but I think it's a brilliant idea. Everyone gets started somewhere. I love the idea of getting to try out juices even if some aren't the greatest. I myself can't always afford to buy 30ml bottles of new Flavors. So 15$ is worth the risk to try his service. Especially for someone that's as new to vaping as I am. Literally just barely off the analogs. And especially with a fairly limited income to boot. If I can try 5 vendors juice for 15$ and not pay 5 different shipping costs. That makes me happy. I am willing to take a leap of faith and give it a shot.
 
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Report me if you want but I think it's a brilliant idea.

Stanley, nobody is reporting *you*. You are a member in good standing here.

Perhaps one who doesn't know that your post, which I think was innocently posted, can be seen as "advertising" for an unregistered supplier.

I'm sure Mr. M has a great idea. I wish him a lot of luck. He is not new to the ecig game, he started Vape Star. That was in the early years of vaping, 2009. I give him credit for belieiving in ecigs then.

It's great that you stick up for what you think is a good idea. Nobody is really having a problem with your opinion, it's just that you seem very excited about a venture that has zero proven track record, and then come on the ECF forum to brag about a biz that isn't even off the ground yet.

Usually people have some experience with businesses they recommend.
 

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If it wasn't for people supporting ideas and getting the word out nothing would ever get done. Based solely on the fact that I have been speaking with him over the last several days about this that's why I support his idea. I am one person. One broke CNA at that I can't afford to throw down $45 but 1 person isn't enough to get something going. The vaping community is well known for people seeing an opportunity and getting help there. And I apologize if it is seen by people as advertising it was never meant to be so. I just thought is was a really cool idea for others that are broke like me and wanted to share it with others. I want it to succeed. If the moderators see it as advertising then so be it.
 

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As racehorce said, I don't think anyone is calling YOU out persay. I'd just wait until you get a month or two worth of shipments before you point other folks over there. alot of people (me included) take what they read at ECF as "solid advice" and I can see where the vets would want to make sure that a new vendor is put through its paces before they start promoting it here on the site.

I recently had a similar experience with the guys at eliquidsamples - I saw a neat idea/website and was more then willing to take a chance on them. I just waited till I got my samples before I said anything here :)
 

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I'm going to close this thread not because of the business but because of the shameful behavior of some of our members.

For those of you that don't like this type of thing, don't participate in it. But this is not a new business model. For the geeks there's been Lootcrate which operates on the same subscription principle. You don't know what's going to show up each month, which is part of the allure of the business model.

Lets remember what ECF is here for and conduct ourselves accordingly.
 
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