NEW YIHI SX MINI ML CLASS!

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Got the ML in last night. Thing is heavier than I thought it'd be. I taste a lot of airy metallic something or other off the bellus with dual Ti coils, so I'll visit that more later. Subtank mini tastes clean with a Ti build, and temp control seems very accurate. Love the build quality, aside from the battery cap. Not a big enough con to steer away from, but it is a bit fiddly at first. Bought a silicone sleeve off eBay that was meant for the M-class, but it fits decent until an official is released. Overall very pleased!

Glad you're pleased with your ML. It's heavier than I thought it would be too. I'm not sure why they switched from aluminum to zinc. My guess is they wanted to make it heavier because some people think heft equals quality. Like manufactures are switching to metal on smartphones to make them heavier.
 

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Glad you're pleased with your ML. It's heavier than I thought it would be too. I'm not sure why they switched from aluminum to zinc. My guess is they wanted to make it heavier because some people think heft equals quality. Like manufactures are switching to metal on smartphones to make them heavier.
From what I gathered researching before purchase is that they switched to zinc due to it being more accurate with molding. Sharper lines and in general less imperfections than can be achieved with aluminum castings. I read somewhere also that zinc is cheap, but prices are 1¢ off from aluminum so I doubt that was much of a determining factor. I like the weight, just hate to find out what it would do when dropped on a foot or a floor. Battery life seems great for running a .27 build. Ergonomically I really like the fire button and the curves where your fingers naturally rest. Don't think I can use a regular box anymore after this!
 

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From what I gathered researching before purchase is that they switched to zinc due to it being more accurate with molding. Sharper lines and in general less imperfections than can be achieved with aluminum castings. I read somewhere also that zinc is cheap, but prices are 1¢ off from aluminum so I doubt that was much of a determining factor. I like the weight, just hate to find out what it would do when dropped on a foot or a floor. Battery life seems great for running a .27 build. Ergonomically I really like the fire button and the curves where your fingers naturally rest. Don't think I can use a regular box anymore after this!

Interesting, where did you find that info? I use to work in aluminum die casting and we made tons of stuff but I have no experience in zinc. Yes, I agree I would hate to drop on my foot. I like the fire button too. I can tell a lot of thought went into the design of the ML. I think it's the best mini mod on the market. :thumb:
 

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Interesting, where did you find that info? I use to work in aluminum die casting and we made tons of stuff but I have no experience in zinc. Yes, I agree I would hate to drop on my foot. I like the fire button too. I can tell a lot of thought went into the design of the ML. I think it's the best mini mod on the market. :thumb:
Earlier in this thread: SXmini M Class (TEMP CONTROL) A quick google search yields: Zinc die casting has tighter tolerances than Aluminum or plastic die casting, which often eliminates the need for additional machining. When no additional machining is needed, it’s called “Zero Machining” manufacturing. This is one of the major advantages of Zinc die casting. Because Aluminum has to be so much hotter than Zinc, the thermal shock from being put in a die produces a part with a surface that can be more pitted. Chrome finish amplifies every defect in a part, which makes Zinc much easier to finish compared to Aluminum. Zinc die casts can be easily polished, plated, painted, chromated or anodized. Zinc alloys are some of the strongest and toughest materials for die casting. Neither plastic, gray cast iron, or Aluminum withstand impacts as well as Zinc alloys do. Zinc melts at 787.2°F whereas Aluminum melts at 1,221°F. This gives Zinc an advantage because casting can use a process called “Hot Chamber” casting which is quicker as well as being less costly than “Cold Chamber” methods.

^^^^source: Aluminum Die Casting | Zinc vs Aluminum Die Cast | Brillcast

Sounds like in general it is cheaper and easier to manufacture and yields a cleaner result over aluminum.
 
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Earlier in this thread: SXmini M Class (TEMP CONTROL) A quick google search yields: Zinc die casting has tighter tolerances than Aluminum or plastic die casting, which often eliminates the need for additional machining. When no additional machining is needed, it’s called “Zero Machining” manufacturing. This is one of the major advantages of Zinc die casting. Because Aluminum has to be so much hotter than Zinc, the thermal shock from being put in a die produces a part with a surface that can be more pitted. Chrome finish amplifies every defect in a part, which makes Zinc much easier to finish compared to Aluminum. Zinc die casts can be easily polished, plated, painted, chromated or anodized. Zinc alloys are some of the strongest and toughest materials for die casting. Neither plastic, gray cast iron, or Aluminum withstand impacts as well as Zinc alloys do. Zinc melts at 787.2°F whereas Aluminum melts at 1,221°F. This gives Zinc an advantage because casting can use a process called “Hot Chamber” casting which is quicker as well as being less costly than “Cold Chamber” methods.

^^^^source: Aluminum Die Casting | Zinc vs Aluminum Die Cast | Brillcast

Sounds like in general it is cheaper and easier to manufacture and yields a cleaner result over aluminum.

Interesting info. Sounds like you did your homework. I do remember aluminum easily got pitted.
 

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From what I gathered researching before purchase is that they switched to zinc due to it being more accurate with molding. Sharper lines and in general less imperfections than can be achieved with aluminum castings. I read somewhere also that zinc is cheap, but prices are 1¢ off from aluminum so I doubt that was much of a determining factor. I like the weight, just hate to find out what it would do when dropped on a foot or a floor. Battery life seems great for running a .27 build. Ergonomically I really like the fire button and the curves where your fingers naturally rest. Don't think I can use a regular box anymore after this!
They didn't switch to zinc. You would've thought they would've learned that the paint doesn't stick well to zinc without an expensive process. Didn't any of you have the M class. The M and as far as I know the S is zinc alloy also. These look as if they are a little bigger so heavier then the M not sure why they made them bigger since the chip is the same size as the M. The M is also heavy for it's size. I think they have gotten better on the finish from the first M's but I would be really careful with them till they come out with the sleeve and wait for the one made by YiHi. They came out with one for the M before YiHi's and it wasn't nearly as good. The J wrap is another option but not sure how it would fit on the ML with the ribs. I have 5 M's the 3 I use are Jwrapped and sleeved. Best Tc Mod I have used but haven't tried the DNA yet. Haven't really seen one that blows my dress up. Don't like the idea of sending it in to have the battery changed and have absolutely no use for 200w. The M does everything the ML does except for the software. If you have decided on one wire the M is every bit as good as the ML. You still have the choices with the manual TCR setting and compensate temp. NI200 mode and Ti mode that are right on.
 

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Read this
Yihi SX Mini M Class Features:

Temperature Control and Limiting

Can Be Used With Nickel (NI-200) wired Coils While in Joule Mode

Four Power Modes

Micro-USB Charging Port

Anti-Burn Technology

Ergonomic Design

Gravity Sensor System

Auto-Flip Rotary Display

Stainless Steel Fire Button and Fittings

Zinc Allow Casing

Up to 120W of Power Output (60W With Single Battery)

Wire Area Fire Button

Uses The Advanced SX350J Chip

Buck-Boost / Boost DC-DC Converter

Reverse Polarity Protection

Short-Circuit Protection

Low Resistance Protection

Low Battery Voltage Protection

Overheating Protection
 

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That is from The Vapor Authority when they first came out with the M after all the upgraded firmware it did of course have Ti mode and manual TCR with compensate temp. Aluminum would have been good it would have solved all the finish problems they had but zinc is cheaper. It doesn't make the mod any worse or better it is still the best TC mod on the market in my opinion. Like I said I have 5 and considering a couple more. Just in case the government makes them impossible to get. They changed the style a little and they did get a better finish on the latest ones. Just thought I would set you guys straight about the SXMM
 
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That is from The Vapor Authority when they first came out with the M after all the upgraded firmware it did of course have Ti mode and manual TCR with compensate temp. Aluminum would have been good it would have solved all the finish problems they had but zinc is cheaper. It doesn't make the mod any worse or better it is still the best TC mod on the market in my opinion. Like I said I have 5 and considering a couple more. Just in case the government makes them impossible to get. They changed the style a little and they did get a better finish on the latest ones. Just thought I would set you guys straight about the SXMM

This is from Varitube: SXmini Box Mod - M Class -Temperature Limited

I think Vapor Authority might be wrong because all the other vendors list the M as aluminum.
 

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Not sure if true but a vendor told me the battery tube is stainless steel on the ML which adds weight to it, he said this is how they improved the threads for the battery cap.
Wasn't the older version of the battery tube made of brass? If so, stainless is lighter than brass.
 

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Cool, I just re-read his reply, he said that the ML was heavier, not in relation to the ss tube though,i got it mixed up. He mentioned the ss tube being the reason for smoother threads.

Did someone say you can buy better quality battery caps from somewhere, I'm sure I read it but can't find the post now?
 

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I am so tempted to buy this since I loved the previous version. I have already had a few DNA 200's and I am not impressed. Just like the DNA 40's I have had a few have died and other issues. The only thing holding me back is I heard Yihi is gonna make a announcement this month about something being released in March/April to compete with the DNA 200 and I don't wanna buy this and then it gets done away with a few months later
 

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Cool, I just re-read his reply, he said that the ML was heavier, not in relation to the ss tube though,i got it mixed up. He mentioned the ss tube being the reason for smoother threads.

Did someone say you can buy better quality battery caps from somewhere, I'm sure I read it but can't find the post now?
Not sure what post, but they mentioned SX Mini battery cap replacement
 
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Cool, I just re-read his reply, he said that the ML was heavier, not in relation to the ss tube though,i got it mixed up. He mentioned the ss tube being the reason for smoother threads.

Did someone say you can buy better quality battery caps from somewhere, I'm sure I read it but can't find the post now?

Elevated Vape Accessories is working on a new battery cap for the ML. No word when it will be ready.
 
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I am so tempted to buy this since I loved the previous version. I have already had a few DNA 200's and I am not impressed. Just like the DNA 40's I have had a few have died and other issues. The only thing holding me back is I heard Yihi is gonna make a announcement this month about something being released in March/April to compete with the DNA 200 and I don't wanna buy this and then it gets done away with a few months later

My guess would be a 150 watt dual battery mod which would be overkill for me. I'm not a cloud chaser.
 
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