New York Times

[machinestatic]

Ridiculous timing. The same day CASAA updated their page about New York City laws that would ban flavored e-cigarettes, the New York Times posted an article titled "Smoking Is Back, Without The Stigma."

Link: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/08/fashion/smoking-is-back-without-the-stigma.html

 

[Petrodus]

Couldn't help but notice the lady's hand-gesture
conveying her opinion of those who oppose e-smoking.
I made that up

 

[AgentAnia]

Goldin Martinez, who works security at Jimmy, the rooftop bar at the James New York Hotel in SoHo, among other places, recalled a recent run-in with a patron he mistakenly singled out for smoking. He’s still annoyed over the encounter. “It gives the place a bad image,” he said. “People think, ‘What’s up with the staff here?’ ”

Still, the mistake happens enough that e-smokers have developed a kind of hand gesture to ward off the cigarette police. The e-smoker will “put the cigarette to their forehead,” Mr. Birnbaum said. “You realize either the person is a psycho or they’re smoking an e-cigarette.”

 

[machinestatic]

Wow. When I posted this there weren't any comments on the article yet, but now there are and the majority are... negative? That bums me out.

 

[tommy2bad]

It's telling how effective the denormalization of smoking is. Most comments weren't sure of why but knew that they disapproved of ecigs.
Turns out we humans are as easily trained as any other animal. Except maybe cats, cats are hard to train.

 

[rebgold]

Yes, and not only are they negative comments, most of them are absurd. One woman believes vapor to contain carcinogens.
We need the NY Times, or Time magazine, or something really big and widely read to do an article about the few studies that show that there are no dangerous toxins released in vapor. That there is more contaminate released in automobile fumes, weed eaters, leaf blowers, and probably incense, but no one would refuse to frequent an establishment that burned incense.
I wish they wouldn't call it smoking, even the Jenny McCarthy Blu commercial calls it smoking. I don't particularly like the term vaping, it sounds silly somehow, but I use it because I want to make it clear that I am not smoking.
It's strange that no one criticizes a smoker trying to stop smoking through the use of nicotine gum or patches, etc... but those using ecigs are constantly lambasted.

 

[AgentAnia]

It's telling how effective the denormalization of smoking is. Most comments weren't sure of why but knew that they disapproved of ecigs.
Turns out we humans are as easily trained as any other animal. Except maybe cats, cats are hard to train.

You have to remember that most people alive today have been brainwashed since birth about the evils of smoking. It's not perceived as science any more, it's seen as "common knowledge." vaping is challenging that.

[OT: Cats are impossible to train. Given the right incentives, they may (or may not) perform a task on request, occasionally but not always, according to whim. They are, however, very adept trainers. My cats have me well-trained!]

 

[Petrodus]

 

[Hidden Dragon]

That's the look of, "....Just can't train some people"

 

[bigdawgbeav]

That's the look of, "....Just can't train some people"

It's the NY Times... what did you expect? Crappy journalism skewed towards whichever way the wind blows

 

[Bill Godshall]

The American Council on Science and Health criticized today's NY Times "puff piece" about e-cigs.

ACSH: Are “vapers” bringing the sexy back to smoking? No.
Are "Vapers" bringing the sexy back to smoking? No. | American Council on Science and Health (ACSH)

 

[Petrodus]

Are “vapers” bringing the sexy back to smoking?
No ... But Big Tobacco commercials will !!

 

[sbdivemaster]

"We’re trying to bring back the chic attitude, the sexiness in smoking," said the [Smarty Q] chief executive, Olivier Girard.

No bueno! This is the only complaint made by ANTZ wrt vaping that has any merit (not much, but it's still there); by quoting this, the NYT is justifying the ANTZ's rampage against PV's.

Full Disclosure: I have not vaped in almost 4 days; I'm still down with the cause - just thought I should be up front that I am no longer vaping, nor smoking.

 

[Petrodus]

Just my 2 Cents

We've been saying for years ...
E-smoking is the future for smoking.

Well ... BT Agrees and WILL market e-cigs to EVERYONE
interested in a smoking Alternative ... As well as non-smokers who might
think e-smoking is "cool" and those just wishing to experiment.
They WILL promote E-smoking as Cool ... just like they did with smoking.

So ... "Buckle Up" ... it's coming.
Keep in mind ... There's no evidence any non-smoker has ever become addicted
to nicotine by using e-cigarettes. However, e-smoking can be an addictive habit.

BT couldn't care less if this marketing ticks-off the ANTZ or Not (period)
To us ... it's personal ... To BT it's just Business.

Just my 2 Cents