Newb Here: Owner of a 510

[breathzilla]

Hello, new to the Joye 510 world and I have a few questions.

-We got cartridges with it that has liquid in them already, is that a flavor or....? It doesn't have much of a taste.

-Mine always "gurgles" especially with new carts, is that because they are too full?

-How exactly does a drip tip work and how do you use it? (a vid for this would be great!)

-What's your fave flav? Worst?

-What level of nicotine is right for me? My FH?
We both used to smoke about half of a pack per day.

-Health risks of vaping?

TIA!

 

[mlinky]

This will answer most of your questions http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-videos-newbies-particular-broke-newbies.html

Come back for anything it doesn't explain. And welcome!

 

[Jonner]

-We got cartridges with it that has liquid in them already, is that a flavor or....? It doesn't have much of a taste.
Might be primer fluid, especially if it burns your throat. Take out filler and press between layers of paper towels, then refill.

-Mine always "gurgles" especially with new carts, is that because they are too full?
Yes, only fill til right before it pools on top, if it pools, dab with a tissue or paper towel to "mop up" excess liquid.

-How exactly does a drip tip work and how do you use it? (a vid for this would be great!) Take off cart, put on drip tip, drip 2-3 drops into drip tip, no more, vape.

-What's your fave flav? Worst?
So far Johnson Creek Tennessee Cured, alot of people don't like Johnson Creek, I really like it so far.
Worst-any clove flavor.

-What level of nicotine is right for me? My FH?
We both used to smoke about half of a pack per day.
That's a tough one, I smoked about half a pack too, I use 16-24mg, but that's going to differ for everyone.

-Health risks of vaping?
Unsure, supposedly much safter than cigarettes, allegedly 1000x less carcinogenic than cigs. HOPEFULLY quite safe.

Good luck and welcome!

 

[WomanOfHeart]

Welcome to ECF! Here's a guide to dripping that might help.
Dripping Guide

Health risks from vaping? None that we really know of yet. Most people report that their health has improved since they started vaping. I'm no exception.

Prefilled carts generally aren't that great. If they gurgle and you're not getting any vapor then you might have flooded the atomizer. You can take it off and blow it out by holding a tissue to the threaded end and literally blowing through the open end until no more liquid comes out. You should also blow out new attys before you use them to get the primer out of them. Primer tastes nasty.

 

[MICKEY100]

Just get a drip tip 4 dollars at diy flavor shack pick a flavor and drip about 3 drops per every oh 5 long drags or so my favorite flavor is cotton candy, right now vaping peppermint good luck

 

[breathzilla]

Wow, thanks for all the prompt answers! And yes, the priming fluid on a new atty is pretty disgusting. I almost gave up before I even really tried because of that stuff FH and I are fans of Grape and Hypnotic for flavors so far. We don't care for Cherry Cola, Clove or AppleWood despite how tempting they sound.

 

[Jessara]

Hi and welcome to ECF and the world of vaping!

Things like flavor and nicotine levels are pretty much personal choice. What tastes good to one person, may taste nasty to another. Order some Sample juice kits from a couple different vendors and don't be afraid to try non-tobacco flavors. As for nicotine levels, since you say you smoked about 1/2 PAD, you'd probably want to start with a 18mg or so, then adjust accordingly. You could even try a lower nicotine, and save the 18mg for when you're really craving an analog. Again, this is just something you'll have to discover on your own.

 

[cskent]

Hi and welcome to ECF.
The cartridges are usually filled with USA mix which doesn't have a whole lot of flavor, and what flavor it does have isn't that great to most people.
If it's gurgling it's slightly over filled. If it leaks it way over filled. As long as it's not leaking don't worry about it too much. It may not produce great vapor until you burn off some of the excess though.
A drip tip replaces the cartridge on the atomizer. You just drip liquid through the big hole in the end, I use 3 drops and get 12 to 15 good hits from them. There's no reservoir like in a cart so you have to drip more often. It's less hassle though as you'll find out if you use cart's for long.
My favorite flavor won't be yours most likely. I currently like vanilla tobacco, but it changes over time. The worst is hard to discern, there's been too many bad ones. Probably a full 90% of the flavors I've tried were not very good. The secret is to find the one or two flavors you can vape all the time.
The nic level you need is subjective. The best suggestion I can make is to try different levels until you find the one that works for you. The next time you order juice try several different nic levels and several flavors. That'll give you a decent chance of finding what works, and something that tastes decent to you. You could try 12mg, 18mg, and 24mg, or substitute 6mg for the 24mg if you think that might work.

 

[dormouse]

Hi and welcome!

Prefilled carts are often filled with Dekang PG juice and some of the flavors don't have much flavor or aroma. You will find some tastier juices at many US juice mixers. like FreedomSmokeUSA and so many more. More complex flavors, various PG/VG ratios (some popular ratios are 70pg/30vg, 80pg/20vg and some like 50/50 - pg lets through more TH and flavor but is a bit harsh alone, and VG is smoother and thicker and adds vapor and a bit of sweetness but can mask flavors a bit.)

Gurgle is juice hitting the atty - it can do that. If the atty stops vaporizing well though, unscrew and remove the cart and make sure atty isn't flooded (blow out into a tissue).

Drip tip can only be used really safely on manual batteries with no hole in the middle of the threaded end of the battery (because you don't want to get juice inside the battery). It's a wide-hole mouthpiece (steel or aluminum ones work best I think) that you attach directly to the atty (no cart). Then you can drip 2-3 drops of fluid in the mouth-hole of it, puff in lightly to get the juice to go down, then vape for a bit. If the vapor gets light, add another 1-2 drops. Not good to do when driving!

And - for when your cart white stuffing gets buggy and not wicking well, I recommend replacing the white stuffing with blue foam. Strictlyejuice.com sells some really cheap precut pieces for 510/901. Then if you like the blue foam and are ready to cut your own, but the uncut foam and Marineland Rite-size U Foam Sleeve in the aquarium dept of Petsmart (was out of stock at mine for a while - I wonder why haha)

Some maintenance things I recommend
1. Clean your atty once a week - I soak mine overnight in vodka (grain alcohol like Everclear would be purer while still edible). I make sure it is submerged with no air bubbles in a small jar of vodka, swish it around a bit, leave overnight. Next day I remove it and shake it out really well and lay to dry. (I alternate two attys - one I am using and one I am cleaning). if you need the atty right away, dry with paper towel gently and blow through it until it's dry.

2. Whenever you are about to screw a battery into a charger, wipe off/out the threaded end of the battery to make sure there is no juice on it. You don't want to get juice in your charger socket - even a thin film of dried juice can make it harder to charge a battery, and a buildup of juice in the charger socket would be worse.

3. Pay attention to the heat of your atty especially if you are not getting good vapor - if it's super hot then it's not getting enough juice so check the cart, adjust the filling, top off with juice - whatever it needs, because running an atty super hot could shorten its lifespan.


And wow - favorite juices - that really depends on the person. I think Turkish tobacco blends seem popular as well as flue cured tobaccos and 555 (vanilla almond tobacco) and RY4 (vanilla caramel tobacco). Chocolate flavors are nice (especially since so many cigarettes have cocoa in their ingredients). Some like liquor flavors or spicy or fruity flavors.

I can only use fruity foody flavors brief fun vapes or as as additions to tobacco juice - I can't do fruity/foody all the time because I don't feel satisfied and instead feel like I ate. Some other people can vape foody/foody vapes all day.

My faves so far - Backwoods Brew Casablanca and their amazing Peach, FreedomSmokeUSA Desert Ship which I sometimes add a bit of their Chocolate or their oRYental to (a light RY4). Velvet Vapors Raspberry Gingerale (tingly TH), AveJuice Boba's Bounty (all VG but so amazing for VG) for those times when you need huge vapor and a TH that will leave your throat burning. For adding to other tobaccos I also like Velvet Vapors Vanilla Almond Tobacco (their sweet smooth version of 555). And Gourmet Vapor where you can mix your own blends online, and their juices also have a ton of flavor - this is my own spiked eggnog ejuice which came out decent so I made it public.
http://www.gourmetvapor.com/flavor.php?flav=3458&show=8&q=eggnog

 

[Jenn1181]

1. Pre-filled cartridges have juice loaded into the batting. Usually it's a Chinese generic or Dekang tobacco. Some starter kits come with both menthol and tobacco pre-filled carts. It won't have much of a taste at first. I don't know how long you've been vaping, but it took me about a week after quitting smoking to really taste anything more than water. Smoking analogs deadens your senses of taste and smell, but once you quit the cigs, they will slowly return to normal and vaping tastes much, much more satisfying.

2. Does it gurgle or does it sizzle? It likely gurgles because the carts are loaded with juice. It's normal. I drip most of the time and if I overfill even a little my atomizer pees all over my battery and it will gurgle the first few toots. If it's sizzling, that's normal and one of my favorite aspects of vaping. Reminds me of the sound an analog makes as it's burning down when you take a drag.

3. Drip tips = win, in my opinion. You will want to find an alternate method for those times when dripping two or three drops into your atty isn't convenient (or even safe, like when you're driving), preferably cartomizers. Cartridge tips with batting are meh. The flavor isn't great and it's silly the amount of work one must put into them to get a decent vape.

4. You could start anywhere in the 16-24mg range. I found my tolerance to 24mg dropped the first week. Some people stay high nic level vapers. Get some 24mg juice and some 16-18mg juice and see which you prefer.

5. None that have been clinically tested. Most people experience drastic improvements in regards to their health when they quit smoking and started vaping. Obviously nicotine is an addictive substance and a stimulant, so you want to be careful not to get too much into your system and always wash your hands if you get e-liquid on them. A rare handful of people develop an intolerance to either propylene glycol or vegetable glycerin in the juices. There may be some mild side effects of getting all of the tar and crap chemicals from cigarettes out of your system. You may break out with acne, you may get some sinus related discomfort (like a scratchy throat, tickling cough or stuffy/runny nose). Some people have excessive gas and flatulence. You may experience "oxygen euphoria" which will create mild dizziness or the feeling like you're daydreaming/sleep walking. These may not even occur with you, and if they do they are generally very mild and don't last beyond the first couple of weeks.

 

[Maxine]

My taste has changed so many times in the past month - flavors I loved 4 weeks ago I can't stand now and vice-versa. Don't give up on the ones that sound good but taste terrible. In a month you might like them.

 

[dormouse]

Re nicotine - I don't think the packs per day matters as much if you plan to vape at least as much as you smoked

In general, many people start at these levels depending on what they smoked...

Full strength cigarettes - 24mg and some need 30+
Lights - 16-18mg and some need 24
Ultralights - 10-12mg and some need 16-18mg

If you plan to vape a lot more than you smoked than a lower amount might work

 

[breathzilla]

Wow, those vids are AMAZING. Thanks for that link, I just watched a ton of her vids...very informative and I learned quite a few things.

Thanks for all the info, much appreciated!

 

[DonG]

gurgling: as already said, new or slightly overfilled. If I experience a gurgle, I take a lighter+longer draw. Even filling myself (know not overfilled) I sometimes get gurgling.....this lets me know I am taking too stiff a draw. Slow down a bit on new or freshly filled carts and it should go away.