Newb in TC and in need for help

[Tilen2009]

Hi all. Been vapin for some 8 months now and i'm in search for new vape gear. I would like to buy TC mod and can not decide which one to buy. I'm interested in SXK VS 60 watt clone, SXK Nebula 60 watt, sigelei 75 watt or ipv D2. I belive that all 4 are in the range of 60 to 70 dollars. I would appreciate if you could give me some pointers on which one is best for the bang. Thank you and greetings from Slovenia.

 

[classwife]

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[dc99]

IPV4 for about the same amount. 72.00 here IPV4 Pioneer4You - WakeandVape.com

 

[Steven G]

I am very happy with my IPV great unit

 

[hashtag]

I use the eVic VT but the IPV4 is probably the best for the price right now.

Another good choice to get your feet wet is the Istick40. It's only 30 dollars so it makes for a good way to try TC before making a bigger purchase.

 

[Tilen2009]

Thanks guys. Ipv4 is a nice unit, but i would prefer a unit of a smaller format. Istick would be quite nice, but i do not know if 40 watts is enough. How about evic vt? I read that a new revision is coming. Enyone knows when is due to come out?

 

[hashtag]

Thanks guys. Ipv4 is a nice unit, but i would prefer a unit of a smaller format. Istick would be quite nice, but i do not know if 40 watts is enough. How about evic vt? I read that a new revision is coming. Enyone knows when is due to come out?

Watts don't matter much on temp control. Set your temp and it will get there and maintain it.

I have 2 of the eVic VT's and they both are great. If you read the VT thread all the reported issues are minor and many are user error. I have no complaints about the eVic

 

[Tilen2009]

Watts don't matter much on temp control. Set your temp and it will get there and maintain it.

I have 2 of the eVic VT's and they both are great. If you read the VT thread all the reported issues are minor and many are user error. I have no complaints about the eVic

So why people (seen in reviews) set temp on the mod and then watts? For example: i saw some review of mod and the guy first set temp to 420 degrees and then he also set watts to 50. Why? My logic is just like on istick TC. You set your temp and wattage is always set to 40 watts. Is wattage used for getting to desired temp faster (high watts) and slower (low watts)?

 

[hashtag]

So why people (seen in reviews) set temp on the mod and then watts? For example: i saw some review of mod and the guy first set temp to 420 degrees and then he also set watts to 50. Why? My logic is just like on istick TC. You set your temp and wattage is always set to 40 watts. Is wattage used for getting to desired temp faster (high watts) and slower (low watts)?

Yes the watts determine how quickly it heats to the desired temperature. The difference isn't very noticeable though, it's not like putting it at 30 watts takes 5 seconds and 50 watts is instant. From 30 watts on up it is milliseconds in difference, with higher watts it actually pulses more so it is firing the coil for less time during your puff which I personally don't like as much. I've found the 35-40 watt range is about right for 400-500 degree temps (I don't ever go higher or lower temp than that so can't speak to other temps.

 

[Tilen2009]

Yes the watts determine how quickly it heats to the desired temperature. The difference isn't very noticeable though, it's not like putting it at 30 watts takes 5 seconds and 50 watts is instant. From 30 watts on up it is milliseconds in difference, with higher watts it actually pulses more so it is firing the coil for less time during your puff which I personally don't like as much. I've found the 35-40 watt range is about right for 400-500 degree temps (I don't ever go higher or lower temp than that so can't speak to other temps.

Thanks hashtag. You've been more than helpful.

 

[VapingBad]

Temp and watts adjust separate things, temp is the max temp the coil get to and this is dependent on power, airflow, wicking and the number and size (contact ares of the coils). If you just stick to a temp and max the watts you will get a very different vape from a tiny coil in a atty with low airflow than in a multi-coil atty with big coils and big airflow, night and day different. Just setting the temp is almost like using a mech in that the coils determines the power you vape at.

 

[Tilen2009]

Temp and watts adjust separate things, temp is the max temp the coil get to and this is dependent on power, airflow, wicking and the number and size (contact ares of the coils). If you just stick to a temp and max the watts you will get a very different vape from a tiny coil in a atty with low airflow than in a multi-coil atty with big coils and big airflow, night and day different. Just setting the temp is almost like using a mech in that the coils determines the power you vape at.

Thanks vapingbad for your input to.
That IPV D2 looks interesting. HMMM?

 

[VapingBad]

Thanks vapingbad for your input to.
That IPV D2 looks interesting. HMMM?

I am not a fan of the YiHi temp limiting boards that the IPVs or SX Minis use they have pulse frequency modulated output in temp mode which means the temperature is not as stable as others and I think that they run hotter at a given temp much like PWM VW mods output higher power than ones the output DC. PFM & PWM output the power in bursts of higher voltage so the average should be the same as a steady voltage, but it is not that simple and the coil retains heat between the bursts so a special type of average RMS is required to get the level right. This is a simple calculation with PWM, but not for PFM.

 

[Tilen2009]

Thanks for the info. So what do you think of Sigelei 75 watt TC mod? I believe that it also uses yihi chip. Then it would be the same thing as in ipv?

 

[VapingBad]

Thanks for the info. So what do you think of Sigelei 75 watt TC mod? I believe that it also uses yihi chip. Then it would be the same thing as in ipv?

I don't want to start a war, but I don't like them, if you get one you will need to set the temp lower than on other devices, but YMMV and they have their fans.

 

[Tilen2009]

Vapingbad which one would you sugest? For the price range i mean. Thaks.

 

[VapingBad]

Vapingbad which one would you sugest? For the price range i mean. Thaks.

I can't really recommend any new, some of the clone DNAs are OK, but it is a gamble getting a good one, a second hand DNA40 would be best IMO, but maybe I'm being too fussy they price difference is a lot and the YiHi do work, just not as well as the DNAs. Sorry I am not more help, one thing I would advise is not to be the first wait and see how others get along with new devices as some have been quite bad.

 

[Tilen2009]

Oh, you've been helpful. Thank you.

 

[Completely Average]

Thanks for the info. So what do you think of Sigelei 75 watt TC mod? I believe that it also uses yihi chip. Then it would be the same thing as in ipv?

The Sigelei 75W does NOT use a Yihi chip. Sigelei has developed their own temperature control chips which works slightly differently. It is the same chip as the one used in the SnowWolf 200W, but with a slightly different layout on the display. Being a SnowWolf 200W owner I can say I like the way the chip works a lot. It's much more user friendly than then Yihi or Evolv chips and it doesn't have the pulsing rattlesnake power delivery of the Yihi.

Personally from the mods you listed I would recommend the Sigelei 75W TC.

 

[Tilen2009]

Completely average, you made my day. Thanks.