Newb Reviews various V4L Carto's! Film at 11:00

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plarkinjr

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Coming soon, I'll try my hand at giving reviews of the flavors I've tried. But, in case this thread stays around for other noobs in the future, first a bit of background (so you can decide if I am similar enough to you to keep reading):

At a Halloween party this year, the hostess (gf of a friend of mine) showed me her V4L e-cigs; that was my first exposure to a real person using them (vs hawkers in mall kiosks). So I ordered, and I've been vaping jabout a week. I previously smoked cigs for 30+ years, with some pipes and cigars for a few years in the late 80s. For the past year, I've averaged 0.75 packs per day of Camel Turkish Gold (or Lights if unavailable). I despised menthol, preferring a nic-fit over those. I've quit smoking a few times, usually with patches, but often seem to go back within a year. Since I've been vaping, I've averages 5 "analog" cigs per day. So far today, I'm smoke free.

How I smoke(d): drag some smoke into mouth, inhale. Rarely would I exhale thru my nose.

How I vape: I replicate smoking, but some times I exhale thru my nose. Some times I'll puff a few times to get a cloud of vapor in front of my face which I can smell. And I've even done the inhale thru nose while pushing vapor out of my mouth (kinda looks cool). I guess I don't know enough about TH, just what's harsh vs what's pleasant. And if volume of vapor on one is dramatically higher or lower than the others, I may point that out. For the most part, I chose to start with 18mg nic concentrations and WOW cartos based on the writeups on v4l.com.

Other stuff: Wife never let me smoke in the house. And I don't blame her. I don't like the smell of homes where people smoke. I rarely smoke in restaurants and prefer to sit in non-smoking section because food and smoke don't mix IMHO. Bars on the other hand: Well, beer and liquor just scream for smoke! Given the right flavor, my wife actually enjoys my vaping in the house with her around, and I can vape the ones she finds objectionable in the house alone as the aroma does not linger. I don't like "flavored" iced tea (Half/Half sweet tea w/ a couple lemon wedges is perfect), and I prefer black unflavored coffee. Scotch and Irish whiskies neat, full-bodied stouts & ales, and bourbon & Coke.

I must say, I began this journey trying to replicate my Cigs of choice, and quickly learned on the ECF that such an endeavor is doomed to fail. But it IS possible for a smoker to find a satisfying replacement.

So, keep your eyes peeled in this thread for some reviews. As of this moment, I've tried 6 different flavors. I have 4 more here I've not gotten to yet, and another 4 on their way. I will do them in approximately the order I tried them. Here's the list I intend to cover over time:

WOW Cowboy (now "True Tobacco") 18
Wowbacco 18
WOW Caramel 18
WOW Kamel 18
No. 7 Nobacco Juice USA 18

WOW Coffee Shop sampler 18
Cappuccino
Cafe Mocha
Espresso
Coffee
Cinnamon Roll

On the way:
Premium Vapor King Virginia CoolCart 18
WOW Vapor Vanilla 18
WOW Vapor Choco Caramel Peanut 18
WOW Vapor French Vanilla Ice Cream 24


About my ***** star system: I'll give between 1 and 5 stars. 5 being awesome, 3 neutral, and 1 or 2 as "objectionable" or at least not up my alley. These of course are purely my opinion; one man's garbage is another man's treasure as they say. :)


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Looking forward to your reviews. So glad you found V4L!

I've been vaping since April, but I just in the last two weeks figured out how to inhale/exhale through my nose and boy what a difference in makes in enjoying the experience, especially when you have a really great juice!

Welcome to the crazy!:)
 
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The first two 5packs I ordered were WOWbacco and Cowboy (now TrueTobacco) based on my best attempted shot in the dark for a replacement to my cigs.


**** WOW Cowboy (now "True Tobacco") 18 - 4 out of 5 stars
This was the first one I ever tried, and thought it was horrible at first.
Now, after consuming 4 cartos, I've grown to enjoy it.
I would describe its feel/tast as "rounded edges" (i.e. not sharp, but not fully round either.)
It is earthy and ashen in aroma, and begins to develop a tart aftertaste. This one my wife does not care for.
But it is on my "Top 5" short-list for repurchase. I have one carto of this left, and intend to revisit it again later.


***** Wowbacco 18 - 5-stars out of 5
This was my second, and while not as "true" to traditional cigarette flavor, it is very nice. It has a round, Slightly nutty and sweet taste in flavor, but certainly not "over the top". If you like normal cigs and unflavored (but aromatic) pipe-tobacco, I think you will like this. My wife says it reminds her of hazelnut flavored coffee (one of the few flavored coffees either of us can handle). This one is in my top 2 right now and definately on my short-list for repurchase. I'm saving my 1 remaining carto for comparison against other competitors for that position which may arise.
 

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Welcome, plarkinjr, and your reviews are very well done!

A word of caution: your tastebuds are going to change/heal dramatically over the next 2-3 months as you wean off cigarettes completely. A flavor you dislike now might later on become your favorite, and vice-versa!

I would also recommend you try the Premium (CoolCart) Tobacco Sampler #2 (when it comes back in stock at 18mg), because it contains 3 must-trys: (1) RY4, a vaping "classic"; (2) Dunhall, a smooth strong straight tobacco; and (3) Hilton, another smooth (but lighter) straight tobacco. I was a 35yr ppd smoker, Camel Turkish Silver in the last decade or so, and I LOVE all three of those tobacco vapes (especially with adult beverages).

Speaking of adult beverages, you might also want to try the new USA Colonel Caramel -- it's a very sturdy tobacco with just a hint of sweetness -- it should go well with all of your favorite beverages! ;)
 

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Thanks for the welcomes and encouragement! And yeah, I realize this is purely subjective, and that my sense of taste is "off" due to tobacco cigs. The preferred purpose of this is to offer some suggestions to folks just taking up vaping, who have similar tastes as me. So anyway....

** WOW Kamel 18 - (2 of 5 Stars)
This was not available when I placed my first order, so I ordered it later because I just HAD to know....
I would describe this flavor as sharper, drier, complex, and musty. There is a hint of latikia (turkish). It even seems to make my tongue tingle. It is turkish in style, but not like a Camel cigarrette. In some ways I kind of like it better than cowboy, but as a "regular" I'm going to have to say "no"; its not on my repurchase list. I have already found several that are way better to my taste. 4 carto's of these left. May go toward a swap or PIF, or I may revisit long from now.


*** WOW Cinnamon Roll 18 - (3 of 5 stars)
This is included in the Coffee sampler pack, but sounded so appealing, I ordered a 5 pack too. Their description of cinnamon baked goods is spot on. There is a hint of coffee, and its not too sweet. There is no discernable tobacco flavor. Nonsmoking wife finds the aroma pleasant. Trying this one has taught me something about myself: I like to eat cinnamon rolls, not inhale them. Maybe I have a mental block on this Cinnamon delivery method. This one is probably not on my repurchase list, and I'm on the fence whether to offer these 5 carto's for trade, as I can see how this could be a pleasant change every once in a while.
 

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***** WOW Caramel 18 - (5 of 5 stars)
This one is just wonderful! It is straight up caramel and seems to have a touch of tobacco flavor too. My wife's first guess at the aroma was "hot cocoa", and after she said that I picked it up too. I felt this one was so appealing that I felt confident taking it on my first "outing" to vape in a non-smoking establishment. I stealthed a few hits and no comments (good thing for now, I'll get more bold as time goes on). WOW Caramel is definitely on my short-list so far! But I'm open minded to see something might replace it. As much as I like this one, I guess I'm going to have to try Colonel Caramel juice some time.


**** WOW Coffee 18 - (4 of 5 stars)
"Coffee, with cream, no sugar" sums this one up perfectly. I detected no tobacco flavor. I can see myself choosing this one for an after-dinner vape at a nice restaurant (you know, when you really don't want to get the caffeine in a real cup-a-joe. But its not a morning vape for me; I'll have a real cup of coffee in the AM, and choose a vape that stands apart. For me, it ranks just outside the short-list. I have three more to try from the Coffee sampler.

Next up I try my hand at juicing.....
 

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OK, so I've been hearing all of y'all talking about juicing instead of pre-filled cartos. Well, its certainly less convenient, but I can see how it saves, and allows a greater range of options. So, my last order included a box of blanks, No.7, and a drip tip.

***** No. 7 Nobacco Juice USA 18 - (5 of 5 stars)
I did a condom fill of one of the blanks with this juice right away, vaped it and absolutely LOVED it! It is smooth, round, full of tobacco flavor, with a hint of chocolate at the finish. Wife has yet to comment (being exposed to the carmels and cinamon rolls mentioned previously. But given that it reminds me a bit of Wowbacco, she probably will not object. In any case, No.7 is clearly at the top of the list as my "go-to". Maybe something else will find itself surpassing it, but I doubt it will be a while. I've been topping off with this quite a bit. After I have a few more flavors tried, I'll do a side-by-side with this and Wowbacco to confirm. The convenience of pre-filled carto's is hard to beat. This one is going to delay my trying the others. :D

I had 5 expended cartos (plus several I killed outright), so I tried my hand at cleaning and filling those 5. I used a pill bottle filled with Buffalo Trace White Dog Mash #1 as my solvent since I pretty much can't drink it. After reverse spinning all of them (only got a few drops of juice out), I dropped them in the solvent and soaked for about 20 mins, shaking vigorously a few times. Then I reverse spun them a couple more times (see my post on the bulk spinner) and let them dry for a couple hours. After that, condom filled them, marked with paint-pen and stashed them away.
 
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Welcome to our family and always remember we're here to help :)

As a menthol smoker (the exact opposite of you), I rejected the non-menthol, non-flavored vapes until I accidentally ordered a peppermint blend and then I was hooked :) A mix with Wowboy/Cowboy in it adds a warmth that a pure flavor lacks :) Since no vape TRULY replicates tobacco, don't reject menthol types either :) Your taste buds are healing and you just might learn to love a little minty flavor :)

Glad you are one of us and really enjoying the review :) Reminds me of how excited I was with my first shipment/shipments...heck...STILL get excited :)
 

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What it tastes like and smells like are two completely different items Plarkinjr sir... Also please know the dangers of using the condom method. It's a batt (and charger) killer...

Yeah, technically there are only 4 tastes your tongue can detect. Everything else is scent.

I've heard that about the condom method, but I really don't quite understand why.... if you wipe up the batt side of the carto well, is it really any worse than missing with a drip going down the center tube? I had one prefilled carto that was hard to draw and was dripping badly. Had to blow it out to get it working, and even then I think something was wrong with the wire because it would not "cook" with the same sound, or produce the same vapor volume as others in the same box.

That said, if my primary ends up being juice vs pre-filled, I'll probably adopt the syringe method.
 

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you don't drip fill or top off through the drip tip.....you want to avoid the center air hole (keeping the carto angled)....that is one problem with the condom fill....it does fill into the air hole....even if you blow it out (what a waste of good juice) there is still a chance of juice leaking through and killing the batts and/or chargers.
 
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