Newbie all confused!

[barryd]

Hi All

Im new to the forum and I am in the UK.

I have been reading the various topics on here and looking at the various reviews and E cig online stores to try and decide what to buy and I am more confused than when I started.

A couple of years ago I bought a White Super E Cig kit online. Never got away with it. It just didnt give me the proper throat hit and satisfaction of a proper ciggy.

I wondered if things had moved on and reading the reviews I came across these two models.

INNOKIN iTaste Express VV Black Replaceable Kit (PRE-ORDER) This one came out top on this review site. The Best E-Cigarette | Gizmodo UK

Reading the forums though this model seems to be favoured. The VE Riva 1100 Deluxe Kit £34.95 - Deluxe Vaping Kits - Riva 1100 Kit Electronic Cigarettes | Vaping Devices | Accessories | E-Liquid

I tend to smoke strong menthol cigs or stronger ordinary. Is there any chance either of these will give me that same hit and strength of my normal cigs?

I dont want to spend a huge amount of money only to find its sits on the shelf like the last one. Can anyone recommend or not recommend the above?

Any advice greatly appreciated.

 

[Izan]

Welcome!

You could do much worse then here

Great way to begin. Very helpful site.

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[vernhall]

An eGo VV setup is prob the way for you to go... Lots of diff starter kits out there to get you up and running in short order... As far as the throat hit and strength goes that's going to depend on your juice more than you kit I think... Only thing you can do is post a note asking about menthol and 'strong' baccy types... Wish I could help, but I don't do menthol and I'm more of a cigar kinda guy...

 

[Talyon]

Welcome to ECF, I understand the confusion but it gets easier as u acquire knowledge and a few devices. There's plenty put there, but it comes down to personal touch as to what works best per individual. So start a bit low and slowly build devices.

Can never have to many lol

Congrats on quitting the Stinkys.

 

[mrjayd]

I just started with the eGo-V and so far it works great. I don't know how long the atty on it will last though. The guy at the store said it should last about a month so I bought a spare too.

 

[KerryK]

I would get that kit just because of the quality and the fact that it is regulated, where Ego twists and Spinners are not and are prone to heating issues.

Safer is better in my opinion.

 

[Beccca]

Welcome....I like the Innokin....its super cool...wish I would have gotten one,

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Hi Barry and welcome to ECF. The INNOKIN iTaste VV is completely diff from the Riva (also known as the Kgo). I own the Kgo and love it but realize it vapes fires @ 3.7 volts. The INNOKIN iTaste can be fired from 3.3v - 5.0 Volts.
Realize battery info: 100 mah= 1 hr normal vaping before recharge. Realize with VV if you're using at a higher voltage battery will drain quicker. Batteries are good for about 250- 300 recharges.

I tend to smoke strong menthol cigs or stronger ordinary. Is there any chance either of these will give me that same hit and strength of my normal cigs?

The "hit" is not only dependent on the voltage but also the juice and nicotine level.
The only downside I see is the INNOKIN kit has only 1 battery.
Both PVs are solid devices and the batteries get high marks and only real diff is one is VV and 800 mah and the other is set voltage with 1100 mah.
After 5 posts wait 1 hr for the ECF servers to reset and you can post in the UK Forum
Chrissie has a list of reputable UK Vendors and discount codes.

Here's a review on the Kgo/ Riva



Best of Luck.

 

[barryd]

Welcome!

You could do much worse then here

Great way to begin. Very helpful site.

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Thanks but I cant open that link

I would get that kit just because of the quality and the fact that it is regulated, where Ego twists and Spinners are not and are prone to heating issues.

Safer is better in my opinion.

Sorry do you mean the kit in my first link?


Thanks for all the replies. You will have to spell it out for me as I dont understand all the technology or what it all means.

Do I take it that the atomisers / batteries dont last long as well then?

 

[eratikmind]

Welcome to the ECF community. There is much info here. I trust that you find what you are looking for.

 

[darkson]

Personally, I would go for the iTaste - VV is alkways going to ensure you get closest to what you would consider a satisfying vape. There will be a little bit of a learning curve as you figure out exactly how you like it, though.

 

[barryd]

Hi Barry and welcome to ECF. The INNOKIN iTaste VV is completely diff from the Riva (also known as the Kgo). I own the Kgo and love it but realize it vapes fires @ 3.7 volts. The INNOKIN iTaste can be fired from 3.3v - 5.0 Volts.
Realize battery info: 100 mah= 1 hr normal vaping before recharge. Realize with VV if you're using at a higher voltage battery will drain quicker. Batteries are good for about 250- 300 recharges.


The "hit" is not only dependent on the voltage but also the juice and nicotine level.
The only downside I see is the INNOKIN kit has only 1 battery.
Both PVs are solid devices and the batteries get high marks and only real diff is one is VV and 800 mah and the other is set voltage with 1100 mah.
After 5 posts wait 1 hr for the ECF servers to reset and you can post in the UK Forum
Chrissie has a list of reputable UK Vendors and discount codes.

Here's a review on the Kgo/ Riva



Best of Luck.

Many thanks. So the Innokin device will use the battery faster if I use it on 5 Volts (VV Variable Voltage?). I gather though that you can use it while its charging although I suspect if it last all day I would just charge it at night. The Riva battery will last longer but its not as powerful. Is that right?

Either device should be a good bit of kit though?

So would I be right in saying that if I go for the Innokin, ramp it up to 5 volts and order the 24MG juice thats about as strong a hit as you will get right? No doubt it will probably blow my head off but as I said the last one was dissapointing and I just found that after a few hours I was reaching for the normal cigs!

Thanks very much everyone for such quick and helpful responses.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Many thanks. So the Innokin device will use the battery faster if I use it on 5 Volts (VV Variable Voltage?). I gather though that you can use it while its charging although I suspect if it last all day I would just charge it at night. The Riva battery will last longer but its not as powerful. Is that right?

You're welcome.Yes 5 volts would drain it quite quickly. Some pass throughs can be used even if the battery is drained while others can only be used if the battery has a charge.

Either device should be a good bit of kit though?

Yes but some vapers move up to VV eventually. I have VV and still use my Kgos for out and about. I've ordered a larger VV for use @ home because my smaller VV batts weren't up to the task- vaping @ 4 volts on:
650 and 1000 mah Twists
2 X 1300 mah Twists.

So would I be right in saying that if I go for the Innokin, ramp it up to 5 volts and order the 24MG juice thats about as strong a hit as you will get right? No doubt it will probably blow my head off but as I said the last one was dissapointing and I just found that after a few hours I was reaching for the normal cigs!

Most new vapers begin @ 18 or 24 mg nic. I began @ 36 mg but am now down to 2 mg. The technology in PVs has advanced greatly over the past 2 yrs. Getting a strong hit is also dependent on the delivery device "ohms" (holds and vaporizes juice) used. If I put a 2.4 ohms carto on my Kgo it produces a very weak vape. If I use a 1.7 ohms cartos it's a mule kick LOL.
Here's a chart that will give a "general" idea of volts and ohms. Realize also some juices taste much better at diff voltages.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9dkanCt0I1qc8949o2_1280.png

 

[barryd]

Personally, I would go for the iTaste - VV is alkways going to ensure you get closest to what you would consider a satisfying vape. There will be a little bit of a learning curve as you figure out exactly how you like it, though.

Thanks. Sorry which one is the iTaste?

 

[pkj]

Welcome to ECF & Happy Vaping.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Also understand "most", but not all, vapers vape 4- 4.5 volts.

 

[barryd]

You're welcome.Yes 5 volts would drain it quite quickly. Some pass throughs can be used even if the battery is drained while others can only be used if the battery has a charge.


Yes but some vapers move up to VV eventually. I have VV and still use my Kgos for out and about. I've ordered a larger VV for use @ home because my smaller VV batts weren't up to the task- vaping @ 4 volts on:
650 and 1000 mah Twists
2 X 1300 mah Twists.


Most new vapers begin @ 18 or 24 mg nic. I began @ 36 mg but am now down to 2 mg. The technology in PVs has advanced greatly over the past 2 yrs. Getting a strong hit is also dependent on the delivery device "ohms" (holds and vaporizes juice) used. If I put a 2.4 ohms carto on my Kgo it produces a very weak vape. If I use a 1.7 ohms cartos it's a mule kick LOL.
Here's a chart that will give a "general" idea of volts and ohms. Realize also some juices taste much better at diff voltages.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9dkanCt0I1qc8949o2_1280.png

Thanks again. sorry our posts crossed.

So is it the atomizer that determines the Ohms. The lower the ohms the bigger the hit right? (Im starting to sound like a junkie")

Do you know how I determine what the Ohms are with the two devices I am looking at? The Riva and Innokin.

I think thats five posts so I should be able to look on the UK Forum for discounts and more info later. Brilliant forum by the way.

 

[papamurph]

I use a kgo vv with passthrough and like the ability to use plugged in with usb when in the car or at computer. I also find I like to use different voltage with different flavors liquid.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Thanks again. sorry our posts crossed.

Nothing to apologize for.

So is it the atomizer that determines the Ohms. The lower the ohms the bigger the hit right? (Im starting to sound like a junkie")

See at end of post.

Do you know how I determine what the Ohms are with the two devices I am looking at? The Riva and Innokin.

Batteries are voltage and mah- Kgo voltage is 3.7 volts and Innokin is 3- 5 volts. Mah is battery life- Kgo is 1100 mah and Innokin is 800 mah.
Ohms is the measurement of the delivery device (holds and vaporizes juice)

I think thats five posts so I should be able to look on the UK Forum for discounts and more info later. Brilliant forum by the way

Chrissie is the go to gal. Lots of knowledge and info.

Different delivery systems:- note bolded Atty, Carto, etc is the abbreviated form

Atomizer/ Atty- an element on to which 3-4 drops of juice is dripped- usually used for testing new juices because Attys are easy to clean. There are some diehard Atty users because it’s the best vape possible but very time consuming.

Cartridge/ Cart- a container with sponge (filled with juice) that is used with the Atty- juice drips on to Atty from filled cart and is vaporized- older outdated first “tank” system and prone to leaks unless the user is willing to buy extra seals and “fiddle” with them.

Cartomizer/ Carto- metal tube with stuffing and element. Holds anywhere form 1- 4 ml of juice. Carto is fully saturated and must be occasionally refilled when juice runs out. My Cartos last 1-2 weeks. Best Cartomizer I’ve found is the Smok Tech XL 1.7 single coil. Boge 2.0 ohm cartos will give a cooler vape. Always use single coil cartos with 3.3- 3.7 PVs for the best vape.

Carto+Tank- a Carto with a hole punched in it. Carto is than placed in a glass, metal or plastic tank which is filled with juice- juice saturates Carto by way of hole in Carto. My Cartos with a tank last, before tight draw occurs: light juices- 80-90 ml. dark juices- 50-60 ml.

Clearomizer (includes the Stardust and the Vivi Nova Tank)- a plastic or metal tank with a wick and element. Contains NO stuffing. The rebuildable clearos come with heads (coil+ wick) that can be cheaply ($2.00) and easily (10 secs)replaced. When the head burns out simply unscrew the old head out and screw in new head- takes 10 secs. My Vivi Nova heads are lasting about 4 weeks BUT I wash the heads every few days. I've found the Vivi Nova to give the best draw.

Best vape in this order:
atty- very time consuming
Carto or carto+ tank'
Clearomizer.
Best of Luck.

 

[Preston97]

You can not go wrong with the Innokin ... They work great and will satisfy your throat hit with the right juice .