Newbie and cloud chasing
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For a regulated mod:
A=W/V - 10% for board efficiency
So at 200W and a nominal voltage of 7.4V (3.7x2, series increases volts) and a 10% fudge factor you are right at ~30A. If you consider the cutoff voltage of the mod, which could be as low as 3.2V (or even lower on some mods) the draw ends up at almost 34A. Not great.
3 batteries (3.7x3)
200W/11 -10% =20A. Way nicer. At board cutoff of 3.2V it's still ~24A, more manageable.
Edit: I missed it, you want a 1 30A battery? No single regulated mod will allow you to run over 85W. See above math.
This is just outright irresponsible. You do not recommend a mech to a newbie without giving the proper safety advice, and a .09Ω coil on a single battery is playing with fire.
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I know, and I'm sorry for that. I'm just telling a story. Don't do that by the way, I'm just sharing.
Just to be clear, build a micro/nano single coil with ni80 or ss, 10 wraps, 1mm/24awg diameter (you get nice cloud on high ohm) I think that's the safest way...
Again, I'm sorry for my irresponsible comment.
Check out Mooches review of the Ijoy 26650. It's a true 30 CDR battery. I'm running .15 on it with stainless 22 gauge and it runs great. As has been mentioned a parallel mod with 20 amp batteries will also give you a usable 30 amp CDR.
BOL.
BOL.
I am usually running it on my dna200 with a lipo definitely in the safe range but I do need to get my old raptor 40a triple series back up and running. She was the smoothest 200w that wasn't a DNA.
Hello, im back!
I got my goon and spools of Ni200 and SS last night and i put my building cap on. Turns out its pretty damn hard to get the resistance to go over 0.25 using 24 gauge Ni and dual coils (i know duals halves the resistance). Im not using any calculator, but not firing it either. just experimenting and checking the ohm meter. I plan on getting to .3 ohms and keep it safe for my single mod regulated at the moment.
Now concerning the clouds, im wondering why Eskie is recommending dual or triple series mods and not parallels? Assuming i stay within the safe limit of the batteries, isnt parallels the way to go for safely reaching low resistance?
I got my goon and spools of Ni200 and SS last night and i put my building cap on. Turns out its pretty damn hard to get the resistance to go over 0.25 using 24 gauge Ni and dual coils (i know duals halves the resistance). Im not using any calculator, but not firing it either. just experimenting and checking the ohm meter. I plan on getting to .3 ohms and keep it safe for my single mod regulated at the moment.
Now concerning the clouds, im wondering why Eskie is recommending dual or triple series mods and not parallels? Assuming i stay within the safe limit of the batteries, isnt parallels the way to go for safely reaching low resistance?
To get 0.5 ohm out of a 24G Ni200 coil 3 mm ID would require ~84 wraps (2 parallel 0.5 ohm giving you 0.25 ohm) It is impossible to use Ni that way (OK not impossible, just very, very difficult to build and fit, even with a 40 mm tank and a really long drill bib to wrap with) See this on steam engine Coil wrapping
Always best to plug in the numbers you'd like to have using something like steam engine first to avoid potential pitfalls. BTW, I didn't know they even sold 24G Ni200.
As for series mods, it's because we'e on the topic of regulated mods. Mechs are another world.
Always best to plug in the numbers you'd like to have using something like steam engine first to avoid potential pitfalls. BTW, I didn't know they even sold 24G Ni200.
As for series mods, it's because we'e on the topic of regulated mods. Mechs are another world.
hehe cloud chasing. clever!
It makes sense that the Ni spool is only 25 feet as opposed to the 100 feet of SS. i thought ur 84 wraps were a typo at first.
Well im now at 0.28-0.3 and its a decent experience. the flavor is by far superior to stock coils. What scared me though was the juice popping suddenly when first firing the cold coil. is that normal?
Bless me but i didnt know that parallel means mech. i thought there could be a regulated AND parallel mod.
Off topic, the goon was a nightmare to take apart. like it was super-glued shut. i had a hard time taking apart the top cap from the deck. not cool.
It makes sense that the Ni spool is only 25 feet as opposed to the 100 feet of SS. i thought ur 84 wraps were a typo at first.
Well im now at 0.28-0.3 and its a decent experience. the flavor is by far superior to stock coils. What scared me though was the juice popping suddenly when first firing the cold coil. is that normal?
Bless me but i didnt know that parallel means mech. i thought there could be a regulated AND parallel mod.
Off topic, the goon was a nightmare to take apart. like it was super-glued shut. i had a hard time taking apart the top cap from the deck. not cool.
The Goon is an awesome RDA, I have a few 
The two that don't look like Goons, have Goon style decks
The two that don't look like Goons, have Goon style decks
Thank you
I love mech mods, most of which are clones
The REO and Tesla aren't clones
All of the RDA's are clones
I'm cheap ole fart
You got the Ni200 to build out at 0.3 ohm on a dual build????
There are a few parallel regulated mods, which are for improved runtime, but most use series to up the voltage and provide higher power/watts with use.
You don't really get better runtime with a parallel setup. All other things being equal, parallel and series will have pretty much equal battery runtime. The regulated mods that have the batteries in series the most common would be the various DNA 75 mods. They're parallel because the chip is designed for single batteries, and they commonly have worse battery life than their series setup DNA 133/167 counterparts.
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Thanks on the clarification. I meant better runtime than a single battery configuration. And that is true for the DNA 75 board. The iStick 100 is also a dual parallel battery regulated mod, although I'm not sure why they went with a parallel build, other than runtime. And yes, two or three battery regulated mods should have the same runtime whether parallel or series.
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