Newbie Chaser!

[BeerGolfClouds]

Stick with the 28ga until you get a little more experience and knowledge under your belt, and get a dedicated ohm reader. Keep your builds in the .5 ohm and up range for now too, as most any quality battery can safely handle that load.

Mech mods and dripping are just awesome, so I don't want to tell you to turn back. But with that awesomeness comes responsibility. Do your homework, and vape on

 

[bobbyb85]

The 28 gauge was on the dna, the 22 was on the mech. Would the 28 be ok on the mech? I like dripping, but in all honesty I'm starting to think it's more trouble than its worth after so many people told me it was "easy"

 

[bobbyb85]

Stick with the 28ga until you get a little more experience and knowledge under your belt, and get a dedicated ohm reader. Keep your builds in the .5 ohm and up range for now too, as most any quality battery can safely handle that load.

Mech mods and dripping are just awesome, so I don't want to tell you to turn back. But with that awesomeness comes responsibility. Do your homework, and vape on

Thanks. I'm just looking for an affordable ohm meter as we speak. The battery is an e fest IMr 18650 35 amp which I was told other than Sony, is one of the better ones to get. So hopefully that's safety addressed for the near future. Il change out the coil tomorrow back to the 28 gauge deal. A lot of guides said that would be around 0.8 so that has to be more safe.

Sorry about the confusion, I'm trying to learn and I'm even getting impatient with myself so god knows what you guys must be thinking :/

 

[BeerGolfClouds]

28ga would be great on your mech. Easier to work with too. Try this build: 9 or 10 wraps per coil on a 2mm (5/64") bit. Smaller diameter will be better for now. Make sure to test the ohms before you fire it with the mech. And enjoy!

 

[wshanncap]

Welcome aboard Bobby. I would have probably used 24G but that's my opinion. Try out this coil building calculator.

 

[bobbyb85]

Ok, I was using 5 wraps on the 2 mm bit for the 28 gauge before. I will give 10 a try, the only pain with the 28 was getting the cotton through it, any tips for that?

 

[BeerGolfClouds]

Thanks. I'm just looking for an affordable ohm meter as we speak. The battery is an e fest IMr 18650 35 amp which I was told other than Sony, is one of the better ones to get. So hopefully that's safety addressed for the near future. Il change out the coil tomorrow back to the 28 gauge deal. A lot of guides said that would be around 0.8 so that has to be more safe.

Sorry about the confusion, I'm trying to learn and I'm even getting impatient with myself so god knows what you guys must be thinking :/

It is a very good battery, but it's only a 20 amp cdr. False advertising. Build accordingly!

 

[BeerGolfClouds]

Ok, I was using 5 wraps on the 2 mm bit for the 28 gauge before. I will give 10 a try, the only pain with the 28 was getting the cotton through it, any tips for that?

Use less cotton. You barely want any resistance while you're pulling it through, but it must still fill the coil. Takes practice.

 

[Bassnorma]

Welcome BobbyB85 =)

I am going to repeat what others have said here. When you are building an Ohm reader is not optional. Having built probably close to a dozen different RBAs, I can tell you they are not all alike. Some are easy to build and others have soft screws and don't stay tightened down the way they should.

You have no way to detect whether your build is at stable resistance without an ohm reader. If your build shorts you can drain your battery faster than you would believe and cause yourself bodily harm.

I think your face and hands are worth at least thirty bucks, don't you?

Also, you must be certain that the batteries you are using will shoulder the load of your build...So I am going to post some links (apologies if one of you kind folks has already posted them...kind of short on time tonight)

Ohm Tester

Coil Calculator

Baditude's Blogs...or everything you always wanted to know about vaping, safety and Ohm's Law...

Check out 7, 9, 11, 12, 14, 16 and 17...

Again, welcome to the forums! Vape safe and happy!

 

[MichiganGoat]

If you really want to start chasing clouds you'll want to look into twisting 24-26 gauge and using a device that lets you crank up the watts. I'm currently using a .2 ohm dual twisted twisted build at 100 watts and clouds are massive.

However I've had my local shop walk me through and double check my super low builds and as always it's all about battery safety. If building is a pain (and I feel that way frequently) I'd suggest getting an Atlantis or Kanger SubOhm the are .5 prebuilt and with a full tank last for a long time. I'm now using my Atlantis 80% of the time and my Little Boy at .2 the other times when I really want to cloud a room.

 

[bobbyb85]

I think it's as much about learning to build the coils as the increased taste and clouds. Super sub ohming doesn't interest me yet. Right now all I want to learn to do is build solid, safe coils and have a better taste than the nautilus with the bvc coils which tend to gunk up every few hours.

The ohm meter is in the works, unfortunately it won't get here til probably new year now.

 

[Robert Dupre]

I use 24 gauge at 6/5 wrap around a small screwdriver and it comes in at .34 ohm

 

[Bassnorma]

I think it's as much about learning to build the coils as the increased taste and clouds. Super sub ohming doesn't interest me yet. Right now all I want to learn to do is build solid, safe coils and have a better taste than the nautilus with the bvc coils which tend to gunk up every few hours.

The ohm meter is in the works, unfortunately it won't get here til probably new year now.

What atty are you building?

Oh and most of these folks are talking US gauges...I think yours are a tad different in the U.K., right? Or are you using US Kanthal?

 

[bobbyb85]

Truth be told, I'm not sure as I didn't even know there were different gauges :/

The atty is a dark horse. The basic guide I was given last week was 5 wraps of 28 gauge per coil, making sure they heated evenly and it read at 0.8 on my dna ohm meter

 

[Bassnorma]

Truth be told, I'm not sure as I didn't even know there were different gauges :/

The atty is a dark horse. The basic guide I was given last week was 5 wraps of 28 gauge per coil, making sure they heated evenly and it read at 0.8 on my dna ohm meter

OK that's cool. The DNA will do for now to read the ohms while you wait for the reader.

Just make sure you attach it to the mod while you are building and pluck the loose wire before you trim it and after you tighten it. If there is any weirdness in the build the ohms will hop around. If not, resistance should remain the same. That is easier to see on a reader.

0.8 is a fine resistance for it by the way, pretty safe; especially on the DNA as long as those ohms stay stable.

What did you wrap them on? Seems the coil calculator tells me you wrapped it on a 3mm bit....sorry 4.5 or a little less. I guess it depends on UK or US gauge wire. LOL, I wish we all used the same stuff...looking for a Euro Coil calculator.

Do you have a picture of the build?

Hehehe...full of questions am I. Yoda I am not!

 

[beez0527]

Ok, I was using 5 wraps on the 2 mm bit for the 28 gauge before. I will give 10 a try, the only pain with the 28 was getting the cotton through it, any tips for that?

Put a lil juice on the end of the cotton you are going to push through first and roll in with your fingers tight and it will thread easier.

 

[edyle]

The 28 gauge was on the dna, the 22 was on the mech. Would the 28 be ok on the mech? I like dripping, but in all honesty I'm starting to think it's more trouble than its worth after so many people told me it was "easy"

Yes 28 would be ok on the mech; 28 is safer than 22, doesn't matter what you put it on.


The higher power you vape at, the more trouble dripping can be; if you don't vape ultra high power, dripping isn't inconvenient at all unless it's a tiny dripper.

 

[edyle]

Ok, I was using 5 wraps on the 2 mm bit for the 28 gauge before. I will give 10 a try, the only pain with the 28 was getting the cotton through it, any tips for that?

I don't bother with 2mm anymore, I'm up to 3mm and so far so good; and yep; next coil I make in maybe a month or two am gonna try for 4 to 5mm;

I did try to make a 34gauge at 3mm, but that hasn't worked out well.... so far.

 

[Bassnorma]

I don't bother with 2mm anymore, I'm up to 3mm and so far so good; and yep; next coil I make in maybe a month or two am gonna try for 4 to 5mm;

I did try to make a 34gauge at 3mm, but that hasn't worked out well.... so far.

Man, 34 would be a pain to wrap...LOL, as I am certain you have discovered. I like 30 for duals usually. It has a good amount of wraps but not too many and is not fragile and tiny,

So I did some digging Bobby...looks like the wire standard in the UK may be Kanthal D while in the US it is Kanthal A1. I am curious what you have now. The calculator I posted has both.

 

[bobbyb85]

Thanks for the help guys. I'm gonna rip the 22 guage out in a bit and re do it. Unfortunately I have no idea whether it is uk or us sizing. They just pulled it off a spool, cut it and gave it to me.