Newbie here and I am so glad I found this site!!!!

[KentuckyRain]

Hi all, I'm 41, been smoking analog cigarettes since I was 13. As of 3 days ago, I was smoking 2-1/2 - 3 packs a day of "light" smokes. Up to just a couple weeks ago, I had never heard of electronic cigarettes. Someone at worked mentioned them to me while I was complaining about my analog ones and how I wish I could cut back if not quit altogether. My co-worker is not a smoker and did not know anything about the electronic cigarettes but just that they do exist. Well that evening I came home from work and did some googling to learn as much as I could. I came across this site and must say thank you all for all the information that I have learned so far. Seems no matter what I had put in the subject for electronic cigarettes while trying to research them, I always came back to this site.

I have not decided what to order yet, but based on this sites recommendations, I am probably going to order the KR808 and the 510. I understand that most newbies are like me and want to start off with an electronic cigarette that resembles an analog, I believe that would be my best choice to help me wean myself off the analogs.

2 days ago I decided to go ahead and get a small starter from the gas station nearest my home because I wanted to see just what it was like to try vaping. I purchased the NJOY express/mini 1.8. After charging it, I had tried my first vapor hit around lunch time at work. It tasted nasty and numbed my mouth, however, about 20 minutes later I smoked my analog and found that it actually tasted disgusting and that I got absolutely nothing from my analog. (It resembled the same feeling I got from when I had tried Chantix a few years back). I had taken a total of 3 hits my first day from the Njoy and had only smoked about 4 analog cigarettes the remainder of that day, and I believe those 4 were just merely from habit as they all tasted nasty and did nothing for me.

Yesterday morning I vaped about 5 times through out the entire day and ended up smoking my analogs of about 15 cigarettes total. (Much less than my average of at least 2-1/2 packs). On the way home from work I stopped at the same gas station to get cartridges for the Njoy, the gas station does not sell them so I purchased the Metro traditional but got the 1.2 instead of the higher 1.8 (1.8 seemed like to much for me). The gas station sells the cartridges for the Metro so thats the reason for purchasing them.

I figured I would try a few over-the-counter pv's before purchasing the KR808 and the 510.

After reading through some threads on here last night, I was discouraged from vaping when I came across the thread with a picture of the exploded battery. I tried to google info last night and this morning to get more information on the batteries in the Njoy & Metro but I can't seem to find out the types or learn how dangerous these batteries are.

I have not vaped since I came across that thread last night because I don't want to have a battery blow up in my face since nothing is guaranteed to be safe.

Can someone please give me some information or links to the batteries that are in the two electronic cigarettes that I currently have and information on the batteries that the KR808 & 510 use? I'm just not having any luck trying to get more info about this, I don't know if I'm googling it wrong or what but I really want to vape again but am afraid to get that thing close to my face now.

 

[Dana A]

You probably have as much of a chance of it blowing up as you do being in a plane crash. Driving is more dangerous than vaping. You can do a few things to add to your safety like unplugging your battery as soon as it's done charging and not using mod batteries unless they are protected or safe chemistry. Not saying that it can't happen but it's highly unlikely. I have never heard of one of the little ones exploding but I guess that doesn't mean it's never happened. I really think the lack of info you can find is due to it not happening much if at all so far with those little ones your using and only a few cases with the bigger batts. I also think that most cases with the bigger ones are due to user errors like stacking batteries and overcharging them. You can buy a meter to check them coming off the charger to see if they are over charged before using them. I believe lots of people just do that as part of the charging practice. It's natural to fear something that's all new to you but I think you should have little to worry about especially with those little pen styles. Good luck and welcome to the ECF

 

[KentuckyRain]

Thank you so much Dana A

 

[Vchick]

Welcome & congrats on wanting to make the change.

I'm sure that you will get bombarded with responses so I'll try to keep it simple, anything that uses re-chargeable batteries can be known to have problems, laptops, cellphones, etc. Here is a link to the 3 main types of vaping devices;

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...287787-three-main-types-ecig-explanation.html

The most recent events as I understand it were apv's (advanced personal vaporizers) which consist of a box/tube style unit that uses lithium-lion rechargeable batteries. These units are for advanced users who's requirements may be more than that of a traditional penstyle (such as yours) unit. Each apv requires a specific size and type. When something other than what is called for is used it may dis-charge and cause the results that you may be reading about, further info here;

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ures-serious-battery-failure-imr-18650-a.html

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ecf-library/129569-rechargeable-batteries.html

hth!

 

[KentuckyRain]

Thank you for the links Vchick. After more reading, am I understanding this right, that the kr808 and the 510 are minis that are similiar to the two kinds I purchased locally? If so, then I'm thinking there is no reason for me to purchase either one of those, I should continue to try out what I have for a bit then decide if these mini's are a good fit or purchase one that gives more vapor like the mid-size? Oh so much to learn about. I feel I will be reading on this website for weeks before I make an upgrade from these gas station ones, lol.

 

[mooreted]

Actually, a good KR808 or Joye 510 are 3.7v devices and give pretty good vapor. The main thing that eventually turns people off is battery life. It gets old constantly charging one battery while you're using the other. If you get to the point where you're tired of charging constantly then you can look at bigger battery models like Kgo, Riva and eGo.

 

[KentuckyRain]

Thank you mooreted. I have a better understanding now.

 

[Vchick]

Sounds like you have the general idea and yes, yours would be considered a mini. Just be sure not to switch up chargers or attempt to charge a disposable, threading may be compatible but the input/output capabilities can be different and cause battery problems as well, better to be safe.

You can also refill your cartridges or cartomizers as well. There are several videos out if you're interested let us know, we'll point you in the right direction!

 

[KentuckyRain]

Sounds like you have the general idea and yes, yours would be considered a mini. Just be sure not to switch up chargers or attempt to charge a disposable, threading may be compatible but the input/output capabilities can be different and cause battery problems as well, better to be safe.

You can also refill your cartridges or cartomizers as well. There are several videos out if you're interested let us know, we'll point you in the right direction!

Oh thank you so much and I would love to see a video on how to refill my cartridges or cartomizers, not sure what mine are though. I tried to google "vaporizing" earlier on youtube but the videos I found,, well let's just say I'm pretty sure they had nothing to do with vaping e cigs. I gave up on googling this on youtube at that point.

 

[sailorman]

There are a lot of good e-cig videos on Youtube. For filling video, use the search terms "cartomizer filling" and "condom method". Don't worry. It's got nothing to do with condoms. It's just the easiest way to refill your cartridges (cartomizers).

You might also look at some videos by a fellow called Pbusardo. He has some reviews of some of the e-cigs that are a little larger than the little minis you've been getting at the gas station. Some of them are the kGo and the eGo. He tends to explain things much better than other youtube reviewers and approaches things with new vapers in mind.

You have nothing to worry about with the batteries in your little cigarette style e-cigs. 510 and 808 are designations for thread patterns. They don't refer to any specific size or model of e-cig. E-cigs with 510 threads are the most popular and versatile, especially in the larger sized e-cigs. The important thing to realize is that if you have a 510 device, you need a 510 cartomizer (cartridge). Same with the 808. There are adapters available as well to use one with the other.

Like the other poster said, the biggest problem with the minis is battery life. Once you get tired of constantly swapping batteries, you should think about moving up to a kGo. They have sealed batteries, so the risk of mismatching batteries doesn't exist. Problems with these units are extremely rare and they're about the perfect e-cig for a new vaper. They're fairly inexpensive as well.

 

[KentuckyRain]

There are a lot of good e-cig videos on Youtube. For filling video, use the search terms "cartomizer filling" and "condom method". Don't worry. It's got nothing to do with condoms. It's just the easiest way to refill your cartridges (cartomizers).

Lol, you had me worried for a slight second there

You might also look at some videos by a fellow called Pbusardo. He has some reviews of some of the e-cigs that are a little larger than the little minis you've been getting at the gas station. Some of them are the kGo and the eGo. He tends to explain things much better than other youtube reviewers and approaches things with new vapers in mind.

You have nothing to worry about with the batteries in your little cigarette style e-cigs. 510 and 808 are designations for thread patterns. They don't refer to any specific size or model of e-cig. E-cigs with 510 threads are the most popular and versatile, especially in the larger sized e-cigs. The important thing to realize is that if you have a 510 device, you need a 510 cartomizer (cartridge). Same with the 808. There are adapters available as well to use one with the other.

Like the other poster said, the biggest problem with the minis is battery life. Once you get tired of constantly swapping batteries, you should think about moving up to a kGo. They have sealed batteries, so the risk of mismatching batteries doesn't exist. Problems with these units are extremely rare and they're about the perfect e-cig for a new vaper. They're fairly inexpensive as well.

Thank you for the great info and advice

Oh, one quick question, is it normal for the "sound" when vaping to sorta sound like a camp fire " wood crackling" sorta noise? Sorry, I just tried the Metro today for the first time, it sounds like camp fire crackling but I didnt notice any noise like that from the Njoy.

 

[sailorman]

Yeah, that's normal. Some cartos and e-cigs do it more than others, but it's normal. It's the juice heating up and usually happens when a battery is full charged. I take it as a good sign, but I don't know if it really is or not. I do know that when I have a carto that does it, it goes away as the battery drains. Either way, it's nothing to worry about.

 

[TheMom]

I started with a V2 Traveler kit last month, switching between the V2 with carts and eGo with tank (duel coil not the atomizer). Have a Vtube on preorder from Apollo from what I have learned it is best to start with a 808 or 510 and then you move up the line. I liked the idea of the VV tube because I was not getting consistent flavor but I think it was jsut the learning curve and me finding something that works for me.

 

[Dana A]

I have one on pre order too. The first 70 started shipping out today to people. It sounds like we will all have them over the next few weeks. I'm so excited Make sure that you have single coil 2.5 or higher ohms for your cartomizers for use with your V tube so you can take the best advantage of the variable voltage. It has a pain in the rear safety feature that will cut you off if you go up to high in volts with any lower ohms than that.

 

[Warren D. Lockaby]

This seems to be a fairly normal progression. It's also kind of cute, and it may help the new vaper skip a step or two if so inclined 4 Stages of Vaping - YouTube

Best wishes, & Happy Vaping!

 

[bushmasterar15]

Welcome to ECF.

 

[Bullmastiffguy]

Welcome to the family. All the help and knowledge you need is right at your fingertips.

 

[Bamboo]

I just want to say welcome to ECF!! About the batteries there is so much information here sometimes it can be overwhelming, BUT there is so many great people here also always willing to help with what ever questions you need. I hope you find the best e cig that works for you.

 

[El Carto]

youll see a lot on the exploding battery,,,mostly hype,,and definately not something to discourage you from vaping,,,deciding what to spend your money on,,is definately more dangerous!,,,,kr808s and 510 are great choices,,industry standards,,,i went with a big volt x2-1300 mah,,,(no worry about exploding,,lol,,)and trying different cartos for flavor,,and strength,,,,then,,grabbin a clearimiser tank,,once i find some long term juices,,,,im jumpin the gas station stage,,and the recharge stage,,,,,,,however,,,you may prefer the sleek thin feel,,,its all really personnal pref,,,patience,,and research on THIS site,,for me was the best thing,,,,too much bias on the search engines,,,,dont get discouraged on the taste of retail store ecigs,,,,i wish you happy hunting,,,need advise?,,just ask,,,

 

[KentuckyRain]

This seems to be a fairly normal progression. It's also kind of cute, and it may help the new vaper skip a step or two if so inclined 4 Stages of Vaping - YouTube

Best wishes, & Happy Vaping!

LMMFAO @ that video!!!!!!!!! Loved it! I'm on stage 2 but thinking I might just skip to stage 4 lol!