Newbie here, looking for some advice.

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Just found this forum link off madvapes.com. I have been reading different posts for about an hour now and the amount of info is becoming overwhelming! There is so much to know about vaping...anyway. I recently had a service call (i'm a cable guy) at a customers house, and noticed he has some science project going on. So I had to ask him... "What the heck is that thing?"..turned out he was filling up his Maxi Roughstack with some juice, getting ready to vape. Now this thing grabbed my attention. It doesn't look like any e-cig that I have ever seen before. After he showed me how it all worked, he brought me to a room filled with different models of e-cigs, batteries, chargers, parts...basically a room devoted to the hobby of vaping. So on impulse without much thought I went home after work and ordered the Maxi Roughstack starter kit. So far I have seen nothing but great reviews on this product so I'm exciting for the mail man to drop it off already.
The real reason for this rambling post is to get some advice on anything else I should purchase for making the switch from a pack and a half of Marlboro lights per day to vapor. I would normally "pack" my pack of Marlboro very tight before smoking to get more resistance and a heavier drag. Thanks in advance!
-Rob
 

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No idea about the mods, sorry! I have a juice bar in my house with all of my DIY experiments on juice making.

Boy I bet you see it all as a cable guy! I had the Comcast guy here this week and he did a double take when he saw my little mini lab.

You mentioned Marlboro. I vape menthol and my sister just started vaping and after reading a lot of suggestions, I ordered her some Tampa at Vapor Station. First vape and she liked it.
 

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I'm a noob too, but loving my current, third, setup. After messing around with other, local, kits I ordered from CigNot: eGo-T 650mah USB pass through batteries, eGo-T Type B LR attys, Type B empty tanks and Type B silicone tank caps. There's not a kit with this combo but there should be! Vicki is the best!
 

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3d? I'll bet one of my mods it won't be your last. :) The time may come when you'd wish you'd skipped your 4th and went directly to your 6th. :laugh: Just wait...you'll remember this post and think
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....just say'n....
 

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Attention all noob's: Lots and lots of killer mods available, I know because I have purchased just about every cool mod I have seen, that can get expensive but about the same as my $400 a month analog habit, but to tell you the facts, of all the really cool mods I have bought, I have my favorites, but there is one mod that usually ends up in every collection, most of the time sooner than later, yep the Silver Bullet. No matter how many other really good or cool or nifty mods I buy, my SB all 3 of them by the way, are at my right hand within reach and ready to vape at all times. The very versatile unit fires perfect every time, hits like a champ and delivers what I want every time, so do other good mods, but nothing fits like a SB. Ok enough about that mod, My Monkey Box arrived today and I am drooling over it, no I havent vaped it yet its still a virgin, pristene in every respect, a true masterpiece, I may fondle it talk sweet to it may even sleep with it but popping its cherry...hmmmm not yet, Im still romancing my Monkey Box, its beautiful.
 

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OK

(I am no expert. I bought my first mod yesterday and mine is much simpler)

You bought batteries and a charger right? Hopefully they are "protected" batteries. You want protected else you run much more danger of a battery venting (spewing) or exploding. If you did not order protected, order them now

Some chargers are for multiple sizes. If the batteries are shorter than the space in the charger, you can stack dimes or pennies to fill the gap (practice with the charger not plugged in to figure out the right size stack)

Did you buy an atomizer? I don't think Roughstack comes with batteries or battery charger or atomizer? I also don't know if its voltage depends on what batteries you put in it and the atomizer needs to not be too low resistance (ohms) for the voltage.

Could you link to your kit and list what you bought besides the Roughstack. Ecig-kits come with everything, but Mods often come with nothing. What else have you bought? Do you have links to the batteries and atomizer you ordered? Did you actually find a kit that included everything?

As a new vaper I highly recommend this selection of the various batteries it can use and it may need 2 so buy 4 and a charger: "18650 for 3.7 volt vaping". Buy a standard and an LR 510 atty. buy some 510 carts. Buy a 510 drip tip. And I like Boge cartomizers (the standard ones are good for starting out, and LR are hotter). And you need juice juice juice. As a full strength smoker I would aim at 24mg and also buy some higher and some lower.

AND PLEASE - somebody who knows more about mods please check what I listed and please help (and remember it is for a new vapor, not somebody looking for the hottest thing they can possibly breath).
 
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Just found this forum link off madvapes.com. I have been reading different posts for about an hour now and the amount of info is becoming overwhelming! There is so much to know about vaping...anyway. I recently had a service call (i'm a cable guy) at a customers house, and noticed he has some science project going on. So I had to ask him... "What the heck is that thing?"..turned out he was filling up his Maxi Roughstack with some juice, getting ready to vape. Now this thing grabbed my attention. It doesn't look like any e-cig that I have ever seen before. After he showed me how it all worked, he brought me to a room filled with different models of e-cigs, batteries, chargers, parts...basically a room devoted to the hobby of vaping. So on impulse without much thought I went home after work and ordered the Maxi Roughstack starter kit. So far I have seen nothing but great reviews on this product so I'm exciting for the mail man to drop it off already.
The real reason for this rambling post is to get some advice on anything else I should purchase for making the switch from a pack and a half of Marlboro lights per day to vapor. I would normally "pack" my pack of Marlboro very tight before smoking to get more resistance and a heavier drag. Thanks in advance!
-Rob

I spent several years in the cable industry myself. I started in it's infancy in 1964, i'm sure we could swap lots of cable stories but back to your juice consumption. The average user uses about 3-5 ml a day. Madvapes is a good place to get juice. I use the chinese menthol juice and he sells it for 10.99 for 50 ml. I would order 18-24 mg nic strength to start with.
 

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According to this, two 16340 3.7v batteries will make it an extremely voltage PV

"Flexible battery configuations give you a variety of voltage choices. You can use an 18650 for 3.7 volt vaping, 2 16340 3 volt batteries for 6 volt vaping or two 3.7 volt 16340's for 7.4 volt vaping.. "
text from the non-kit version
Maxi Roughstack V2

Fortunately it comes with very high ohms attys for high voltage but I still think it will vape really hot I don;t even know where you can get cartomizers for such high voltage.

If I was starting out I would set it up for 3.7 volts which I think is one 18650? And use standard resistance 510 attys or cartos to start, LR for hotter.
 
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This is my starter kit offered by Madvapes.

Maxi RoughStack V2 Kit

I also ordered a few other random items not really knowing if I would need them but, and extra charger,
2 batteries and a drip tip. Here are the links.

Black Contoured Delrin Dripper Tip 510/901

AD-103 Multi-volt charger

Protected Trustfire 16340/CR123 Lithium Ion Battery, 3.7v, 880mah

Thanks for the help!

Almost forgot to ask...about how much juice would a pack a day smoker go thru?

Hi Rob! Welcome!

I'm pretty new here and to Vaping myself, and just happened to get the same exact kit you are eagerly awaiting a few weeks ago. This setup does give a very high voltage Vape, which for me was essential to getting off analogs. I was smoking about the same amount you were. The first few hits on a new carto will have an easy draw and lots of vapor and will probably make you think it's too strong, so just "sip" don't gulp until you find your happy place.

If you get the Short body :RoughStack V2 Short Body
you'll be able to try a lower voltage. Read up on battery safety here, too.

A Carto - or Cartomizer - is a combined atomizer (the part that heats up to make the liquid vaporize) and cartridge (the part that holds the juice to be vaporized). I'm currently loving the Mega dual coil carto 1.5 ohms I got from mad vapes. 510 Black Dual Coil Mega Cartomizer, 5 Pack
They hold a lot of juice, come with endcaps for easier traveling (called condoms here), and work well for me with the higher voltage.

Don't throw them away! They're, refillable, and once the draw gets too tight, they're cleanable and you'll save a ton of money doing that. Dirty cartos mean tighter draws, so you might find you don't clean yours often. I've been using the three I've broken out of the 5 pack for a couple of weeks, and they still seem fine. Watch a video or six on how to fill cartos.

I tried the clearos (clear cartomizers without filler material), but found they don't feed enough juice at the higher voltages, and had two leak - messy!

You can also get just an atomizer and drip tip and drip a couple of drops of juice in whenever you vape. Sounded like a pain to me, but many here swear it's the cleanest tasting vape.

I also ordered an EGO kit to use when I'm traveling, as the Roughstack is hard to explain to the nice men at the airport!

One thing you'll learn quickly is everyone's tastes are very different. You'll want to experiment with some different setups to find out what you like best. And you'll want to try several juices. I thought I might like the sweet flavors, since I have a sweet tooth, but found them better to use as a topoff to a more tobacco based juice. (I'm currently loving BWB Honey Flue, with a top off of BWB watermellon, and trade that with BWB Malty with watermelon).

You might want to do some reading on nic juice safety, and nic poisoning symptoms so you don't overdo it at first. One thing I learned quickly was if you get juice on your skin - wash your hands right away!

For juice, I started with some Winston prefilled cartos from China, then quickly graduated to Backwoods Brew, and I have a dozen or so more on order from several different vendors to test out. You can check on the classifieds and pay it forward areas of this site to find cheaper ways to try many different types of juice, but with the cartos, you'll find the flavors will transfer a bit if you don't clean them between refills with a different juice. I don't notice it much. I'm using 24mg nic, and I think Don's (BWB) PG/VG ratio is 80/20, so his juice is thicker than some of the others I've tried.

Some people find they are sensitive to PG, and smoke only VG juices. VG is thinner, and produces a lot more vapor. The setup you have might not be practical for that.

With the higher voltage and the dual coil cartos, I go through a lot more juice in a day. Maybe twice what I would use with a lower setup. But once I switched to the higher voltage and dual coil cartos, I completely lost my desire to smoke analogs. A great trade off in my opinion.

Now that I've thrown in my two cents - be aware I've only been vaping and reading a few weeks... Your mileage may vary, and some of the smarter and more experienced vapers here may have their own favorite setup for tighter draws, etc. You can usually block off a bit of the air flow, from what I understand, to get a tighter draw. Haven't tried it myself.

Hope that's useful!

Warmest,
Ronda
 

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Rupert - As I understand it

The Roughstack you bought can only use the battery combinations for high voltage and extra high voltage comes with extra high batteries and extra high resistance atomizers?

If you buy the short body for it, then you could use the single-battery setup for 3.7 volts (high end of normal vaping voltage) and on that you would need standard or hotter LR atomizers and you could use cartomizers like the popular Boge ones.

The way heat works in an ecig (approximately - numbers not exact)

The higher the battery voltage, the higher the ohms a normal moderately hot atomizer or cartomizer needs to be. Go a bit lower in ohms and you have what is effectively low resistance (hotter vape, uses battery charge faster). Go too much lower and it's too hot for comfort and/or you destroy the atomizer or can't help singeing the carto.

So for example
On a 3.7v setup, a 2.8-3.0 ohm atty is normal, 2.5ohm is slightly low resistance, 2.0 is low resistance (most common voltage people use, lots of cartos available, lots of attys available)

On a 5v setup, a 3.4-3.6 ohm atty (aka HR or HV) is normal, and a 2.8-3.9 ohm atty is low resistance (so you can still use easy-to-find atomizers and cartos as LR but harder to find HR/HV stuff)

But you have a 7.4v setup unless you buy that short tube so you can use one battery? 7.4v is very very high. You will have a much smaller selection of atomizers and I don't know i any cartomizers are made with high enough ohms.
 
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