Newbie here !!! Pls, need help on buying nickel wire !

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lordmaniac

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Hi, I'm new to the whole temperature control thingy. I have ordered a heatvape invader mini and its on its way. It seems that in most reviews the temperature control is working. So I'm planning to buy a pure nickel wire NI200 to be set up in my KangerTech Subtank Mini but I don't know what DIAMETER of wire should i get? Could anyone help me on this? Thanks.
 

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haven't tried to build in the kanger rebuildable thing yet -- but not a ton of room in there so you will likely need some thinner wire -- i would suggest getting some 28 guage to use on you drippers and 30 guage to try in the kanger rebuildable thingy.

Thx for the suggestion. Probably will get either 28 or 30 gauge which wont be hassle for me during recoil becasuse of the limited space.
 

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If you go with 28 gauge wire with 9 wraps on a 3 mm jig, you will get just over 0.1 ohms. The guy who built my nickel coils did this and they measured out to be 0.107 ohms. The Evolv DNA40 chip requires a minimum 0.1 ohms while the Yihi SX350J chip requires a minimum of 0.06 ohms.

The problem with working with nickel wire is that nickel is much softer than kanthal, so the coil can be easily deformed while working with it.
 

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If you go with 28 gauge wire with 9 wraps on a 3 mm jig, you will get just over 0.1 ohms. The guy who built my nickel coils did this and they measured out to be 0.107 ohms. The Evolv DNA40 chip requires a minimum 0.1 ohms while the Yihi SX350J chip requires a minimum of 0.06 ohms.

The problem with working with nickel wire is that nickel is much softer than kanthal, so the coil can be easily deformed while working with it.

Thx mate ! That's some good information to know. Is it advisable to go for the lowest/minimum ohm set-up ? Or probably have just around 0.3-0.4 ohm set-ups?

I dont really know what chip is the heatvape invader mini build on. Haha
 

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You don't really need to go up that high in resistance. The temp control handles the power. Besides, you probably wouldn't have the room to fit a coil at 0.3-0.4 ohms. You're talking about going with somewhere around 30-40 wraps since the resistance of nickel wire is so low....or using something like 34 gauge nickel wire, which would be even harder to work at since it would be so thin and so soft. This is also why you really can't do dual coil builds with nickel wire since the resistance is dropped in half when you use dual coils rather than a single coil.

FYI, ohm meters are pretty much useless with nickel wire since the resistance of nickel wire changes as power is passed through it. For example, if I hook up my 0.1 ohm nickel coils to a multimeter, it will initially show one resistance and then about a half second later, the resistance will change to a different value.
 

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You don't really need to go up that high in resistance. The temp control handles the power. Besides, you probably wouldn't have the room to fit a coil at 0.3-0.4 ohms. You're talking about going with somewhere around 30-40 wraps since the resistance of nickel wire is so low....or using something like 34 gauge nickel wire, which would be even harder to work at since it would be so thin and so soft. This is also why you really can't do dual coil builds with nickel wire since the resistance is dropped in half when you use dual coils rather than a single coil.

FYI, ohm meters are pretty much useless with nickel wire since the resistance of nickel wire changes as power is passed through it. For example, if I hook up my 0.1 ohm nickel coils to a multimeter, it will initially show one resistance and then about a half second later, the resistance will change to a different value.

Now I got a little understanding on the nickel build. Thx mate. Probably will try your setting of 28 gauge wire with 9 wraps on a 3 mm jig when I get my hands on my stuff ! Thx again.
 
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