Yup.
2 pin (well, "blades" really and polarized these days) to 120 volts, 60 Hz A/C.
As Jesus intended.
(hee)
Newbie: Looking at batteries self-contained versus in a case
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Yup.
2 pin (well, "blades" really and polarized these days) to 120 volts, 60 Hz A/C.
As Jesus intended.
(hee)
^^This is the same set up I have^^ so I wasn't trying to flog an MVP because I have one, I don't.
I just thought your budget might not allow it. Im now using an aerotank in mine but so far im still preferring the vape from the iclear 30s.
Yah. I was just trying to give some options there. I was about to buy another eGo one day when it hit me the shiny VTR I'd been drooling over took much less expensive but higher capacity batteries. I wasn't "saving money". Not by a long shot. So I got the VTR.
Depends on what they mean by budget. Not knocking the MVP but the battery can't be replaced. So it suffered from the same shortcoming the eGo's have in my view. I was looking at my budget over the long haul and the VTR came out ahead.
I was thinking about an Aerotank myself but I am pretty happy with the 30s. Thinking maybe trying the iClear X.I they came out with recently...
Well, I am going to chime in for the MVP2 AND the Itaste vv/vw as the "back-up" or "out and about" unit. The equipment is VERY reasonably priced, well made and similiar in function. 2600 mah and another 800 mah that can charge with the same charger, or you can charge the vv on the MVP2! (lol) or use it as a phone charger in a pinch. Some people prefer "contained" batteries. Less things for me to keep track of.
So, it lasts for a year. In another year, I will buy another and not worry...
So, it lasts for a year. In another year, I will buy another and not worry...
I started on the ego twist. Couldn't get through much of a day because I use my apv like a pacifer. Switched to the mvp and loved it. It died, permanently, and I went to the mvp 2 around September 2013. Started out getting about 1.5 - 2 days on a single charge using 2.2 ohm tanks. As the battery has aged from recharging, it drops off after 3/4 - 7/8 of a day. The higher the ohm, the longer the battery will last. Trade off is it takes longer to heat up the coil. I've ordered a new Reo LP Grand as my next device. Mvp 2 is a great intermediate device for the money (IMHO).
I'm thankful for all the replies. I didn't know they were there, but also took the chance to continue study last night. This site is as busy as I-95.
I've looked at a few tube type mods, and they're longer than I thought. Looking at the Vamo v5, it says 141 mm tall! And I'm trying to make this thing fit. When I get the actual dimensions to put it into perspective, the MVP is 3 3/4" tall, shorter than any vv,vw tube I see.
It seems I would be stuck with the same problem of electronics that might die in the same amount of time as the MVP 2? Do Vamos last longer than MVPs?
The MVP appears to lend itself to goofing around with my first RDA, and it looks like it could have the lowest profile in town. RDAs can be really cheap in the long run, eh? Like a $6-7 Patriot or IGO. It's pretty amazing that I can get an MVP with a tank (iClear 30) for $40.
One that has really caught my eye is the (Smoktech) Magneto. I think that's really slick, and I see nice versions for down to $35. It looks like it will never break, takes the 18650s, and with them I think 3 1/3" tall. I don't know what I'm dealing with with no vv,vw in the vaping experience, though. On a related point, I have a multimeter... Can I just use that to measure the ohms on an RDA, or do I need to get the kind of ohmmeter that my base screws into? I also saw a $22 Magneto knock-off at fasttech, but 2 mm shorter than normal (65 instead of 67 for battery).
Between the MVP and the magneto approach, it looks like these are my two favorite competitors. The Magneto needs batteries and a small charger, which might bring it to $60, plus another $10 we'll say for buying a separate tank. (Btw: I'm not looking at Kangers anymore) Hopefully, the iClear 30 is something that works well enough for my nic fix, and like I say, in any event, I am planning on goofing with an RDA.
For the RDA, I saw a cool vid I would like to try. The guy called it nano coils (very small diameter). Well, he used 26 gauge, 13 turns, dual coils, for 0.4 ohms, but I would raise the ohms more than that. He stuffed the cotton underneath the coils and it vaped quite a cloud. The base was full of cotton (could a person stuff even more cotton on top?) It also looked like it could vape for a while before being re-dripped. I'm not looking to make big clouds, just good vaping.
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Rebuilding, especially "sub-ohm", might be a lot to get into all at once. And do it wrong, you could make a mess of things and maybe damage your device. I'm not sure it's a hobby for any of us on a budget.
You can get a really great vape without mucking with your own coils. If you want to get into that, lots and lots of experienced folk to learn from here. You could just get a solid device to use (like the MVP) and read up on rebuilding, ask questions, figure out your next move. Jumping right into the deep end of the pool could be frustrating and costly.
Oh, also, the iClear 30s is a nice tank. One came with my VTR and I find I like them quite a bit.
If your going to get into sub-ohm, please do some research and don't use junk. Safety first
Rebuilding, especially "sub-ohm", might be a lot to get into all at once. And do it wrong, you could make a mess of things and maybe damage your device. I'm not sure it's a hobby for any of us on a budget.
You can get a really great vape without mucking with your own coils. If you want to get into that, lots and lots of experienced folk to learn from here. You could just get a solid device to use (like the MVP) and read up on rebuilding, ask questions, figure out your next move. Jumping right into the deep end of the pool could be frustrating and costly.
Oh, also, the iClear 30s is a nice tank. One came with my VTR and I find I like them quite a bit.
Yes, from what I see, the 30s, which comes with the VTR, is a different animal than the 30, which comes with the MVP. The hope is that the 30 works OK. I have seen at least one person uses it.
Well, I've watched about 4 videos of people making their own coils, and I have experience with basic electronics. It doesn't seem too costly to me to try a $6 tank with a couple rolls of kanthal and some cotton. I could goof with any ohm load, such as .8, 1, 1.8, whatever. Using vv,vw, it seems like it could be very power efficient at lower voltage/power with a smaller load. So, the thinking is to use the iClear 30 for maintaining my habit, and my first goofing project would be as described. Using the mech approach, I wouldn't be able to adjust voltage or limit current, but I would stay with (IMR) batteries than handle high current, and know not to hold the button for a long time.
I'm 73 years old and wrap my own coils, amd make my own juice. That's WHY I can afford those PVs in the pics I posted.
I could possibly vape for the next 10 years without ever spending a dime if I wanted to.
What I'm saying is don't be afraid to LEARN. Just understand that learning is a process ... not an event.
I could possibly vape for the next 10 years without ever spending a dime if I wanted to.
What I'm saying is don't be afraid to LEARN. Just understand that learning is a process ... not an event.
I think I'm going to start at the lowest price point, using the MVP.
I think what you've done is really cool. Where did you get all that mech? Did you do machining, or buy it online?
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I think that's the wise choice for a beginner.
Like a previous poster said don't be affaid to try stuff. You can always buy a RDA/RBA and use it on your MVP 2, you can then have a go at making your own coils and it wont matter if it takes you some time to master as you will have clearo you can use until you get it right.
You wont be able to sub Ohm on the MVP, but you don't need to because it has VV/VW.
Its only because Mech's are fixed voltage that people need to sub Ohm, as they can only get a max of 4.2v and then it goes down as battery get lower to say 3.4v so they have a small window to work with, hence sub Ohm.
Your 40$ investment in an MVP will last longer than the 53$ carton of Marlboro reds I used to buy.
Yes, a DMM will work and is the preferred choice to check ohms.
No, you can't sub ohm on an MVP. Current limiters & all..
Yes, a DMM will work and is the preferred choice to check ohms.
No, you can't sub ohm on an MVP. Current limiters & all..
Great advice. I just ordered some DIY juice supplies. I am about a month into vaping and the real cost savings jumps out when you can make 1000mL of ejuice for 60 bucks and enough coils and wicks to use it for about 6 dollars. My nautilus has a 5ml capacity and lasts me 2 days per fill 200 fills 400 days. I spent about 2,600 in cigarettes per year. Even calculating the mods and vision spinner batteries charger everything, I am at 350 counting my DIY supplies. Other than new goodies that jump out there I am set for the year.
Live Long and Vape!
I do agree that the box mods are a bit easier to carry around. The battery not being interchangeable kills it for me. The REO is a good compromise. I get 2 mnke or aw imr batteries for about 15 bucks. So all told with juice,coil/wick supplies, and 2 batteries a year, my annual cost next year should be less than $100.00. That doesn't count the new Shiney mods that I am positive will find a home thanks to the 25X reduction in nic addiction cost.
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