Newbie Needs Help

[sKiTzo]

I tried posting in the "ask a veteran" forum but (for some reason I'll never understand) we can't post there until we are veterans ourselves and of course by then we will have already found the answers. Nevertheless, maybe someone here can offer some pre-veteran newbie advice 'cause I am LOST. In light of the fact that vaping is a relatively new thing, E-cig vendor websites need to offer better explanations as far as the components and what is needed and the differences and to basically give a more thorough understanding of it all. I purchased an "ultimate kit" from liquidxpress.com for $60+ because I had no idea what to get and I figured that with the "ultimate kit" I'd be covered because the word "ultimate" implies just that. So I got it and I was immediately disappointed by the poor plumage factor (the amount of vapor). So I did some research and found that you need a 5 or 6 volt battery to produce good plumage and the one that liquidxpress sent me was something like 3.7. So yes, the use of the word "ultimate" by liquidxpress.com, in my opinion, is misleading. Also, I guess I was supposed to assume that the e-juice has nicotine in it because they don't mention that either. I didn't know until I took the first draw and tasted it. I was recently in the hospital for heart failure and even though I smoked at least a pack a day before I went in I didn't feel any nicotine withdrawal and I kept refusing the patches they kept offering me. So for me the addiction is not the nicotine, it's the act of smoking and I suppose I enjoyed the flavor of a good tobacco. I need an ecig that is nicotineless and allows me to blow out billowing clouds of flavored vapor. I've tried both but I STILL don't know why a carto is different from an attie but I'm not made of money so I need to pick either carto or attie and stay with it. Please can anybody recommend a good battery and carto or attie setup with these factors in mind? 1. no nicotine 2. big clouds 3. not wealthy

 

[lilac7779]

First, welcome. For reasons of spam reduction, each member must have 5 posts in the New Members Forum before you can post elsewhere. It is easy to get five posts. Welcome other new members or ask more questions.

This world of vaping can be overwhelming, but please let me encourage you to stick with it. I gave up smoking for health reasons, so I understand where you are coming from.

Now, more informed people than me will no doubt jump in and answer your technical questions. Good luck.

 

[hairball]

According to their site, the liquid is 18mg. eGo's, which is what you have, are usually the kits that everyone suggests to get. However, I prefer going with more voltage.

Here is a setup that I recommend. You can vape it at any voltage depending on the type of battery/batteries that you put in it. Right now, he's waiting on new batteries to come in for the kits but he said it should be monday.

Here's the mod...http://elitevaporworks.com/mods.html...free shipping.
Batteries...AW LiFePO4 RCR 123 X 4 (2 per set for 6V vaping)
Charger...same vendor as the batteries.....Ultrafire WF-138a
Cartomizers....free shipping...either of these are great for high voltage vaping....Carto's also builds a nice 5V box mod and sells everything you need on the site also if you choose to go 5V.

As for juice, you can get 0mg from just about any vendor. A good vendor that has a huge variety is freedomsmokeusa.com. They charge a flat $5 shipping no matter how big or small your order is.

 

[mynameisrob]

You dont need a 5 or 6V battery to get good vapor. You can and they are nice, but a good 3.7V can produce a nice vape too with alot of vapor. You just need something thats not a crappy ecig. There are a lot of companies that sell crappy slim ecigs(ones that look like a real cig) that are horribly overpriced and frankly... are crappy.
Their are a few decent slim ecigs though if you want it to look like a cig.
If you dont care then you can get a much better ecig that will have a lot longer battery life and give a great vape.

Most juices have nicotine in them bc most people that use ecigs use them bc they either are or were addicted to cigs and want to stop. If you dont want nicotine you need to get juice that is 0mg/ml. That has zero nicotine in it.

With an atty you either connect a cartridge to it which holds the juice and delivers it to the atty or you can put a drip tip onto an atty, which is basically a mouthpiece and drip juice directly onto the atomizer.

A cartomizer is an atomizer and a cartridge in one. Most people prefer cartomizers because their more consistant and hold more juice.

The eGo isnt a bad ecig at all. You just need to get a good cartomizer for it and learn how to use it correctly and I think youd be happy with it

 

[Traver]

You should start here.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ping-illustrated-guide-e-cigs-part-1-6-a.html

 

[tidegirl]

I'm new myself so I can't help with recommendations, but I can very much relate to the web confusion. I have 2 ego t's and looking at the web sites, I can't even figure out what stuff I can use with my pv. I am loving vaping though, and hopefully with the help of some experienced vapers here I will eventually figure it all out. Welcome.

 

[Cyatis]

You only need 5 posts to be able to ask questions in the ask the veterans section.

Going to the website, I believe this is what you received.

Ultimate Kit includes:

510 Liquidxpress Go2 (Ego) Battery 650mah
Matching Cone
Passthru cord/charger
2 x LX 306 atomizers (2.5 Ohm)
1 x 306 Drip Tip (Clear)
5pk of Liquidxpress Cartomizers (Blank)
15ml bottle of The Original (Tobacco) Liquid 18mg

I've been vaping a little over a year and here are my opinions, mixed in with a little bit of facts.

1. I'm going to use 3.7v as a starting point, your mileage may very, I had some that ran at quite a bit less than that. However it is very possible to get a decent vape out of such a device. Its all about the wattage the device delivers, so if you want to get more wattage out of your device, lowering the resistance of the atomizer or cartomizer on it will do the basically the same thing as raising the voltage (though you can only go so far on an ego battery). 510 and 306 threaded accessories should fit your batteries. I have no way to know if the cartos you recieved are the 2.8 or 1.8 ohm versions, the 2.8 version might just have to much resistance to be any good to an ego battery.

2. The bottle of ejuice you have does indeed contain nicotine. You can order ejuice from various vendors, at 0mg strength, which is no nicotine. In any case, the vaping device is much safer in that regard than smoking, even at 24mg which is basically what I'd consider satisfying to a former pack a day smoker, that is still addicted to nicotine. The bottle you currently have is 18mg of course.

Flavor and quality of juice is very subjective. There are a lot of good vendors out there for 0mg nicotine ejuice. Of course you have to buy some to be able to use it.

3. There are uses for both cartos and attys so I'll try to make it simple.

A carto is a device that you can put about 20 drops of liquid into a filler, it has a coil the filler feeds, and you vape it. So you can fill it and then use it for awhile, you can usually refill them before they run dry to extend their life. Cartos are considered disposable, though with some education you can make one last a decent amount of time, and they are relatively cheap to replace. Learn to fill your cartos correctly, and they will last quite awhile. There are videos on youtube to show you how to do this, if a video would help.

An atty basically will let you drip your juice onto it, and the vapor is produced by the heat the coil produces yet there is no filler involved at all. You have to keep both cartos and attys reasonably wet for them to work properly. Atomizers normally cost about the same as a 5 pack of cartomizers. I've had them last for months, and have been unlucky and had them last for a few days. So your mileage varies here a lot.

Having an atty or two to use, is always handy though, because if you want to test the flavor of a juice, you won't have to fill an entire carto to find out you don't care for it, and waste 20 or so drops of juice plus making the carto at that point useless. (They can be cleaned and reused to a point, but I'll assume you get the picture.)

You can use your 306 atties to test juice flavor. Use the driptip with 306 though, that atty will get hot. The space the driptip gives you will make sense at that point.

Eventually you can step up to higher voltage if you feel you need it. This is just to get the most use out of what you have currently.

I hope this helps,
Cyatis

 

[Strigoi]

Juices with a higher VG content will also give you more vapor. Most people use an 80/20 or 70/30 PG/VG ratio since VG offers less throat hit and mutes the flavor some compared to PG. If vapor production is what really matters to you try some 100% VG liquid. I was very impressed with the vapor production using some on my Silver Bullet @ 3.7v with a standard resistance atty.

Check out Welcome to Tasty Vapor and look into their Doublers as well. You can get 4oz (120ml) of no nicotine liquid for under $16. The 2oz bottles are $10.50. They sell the Doublers so that people can mix down their higher nicotine TV liquids, but they are perfect for someone that wants to vape zero nic liquid. TV only offers a few PG/VG ratios.

 

[dormouse]

You have a choice - lots of vapor, or lots or flavor & hit and little vapor, or a blend which is what most people use

PG - thin and works in everything, lets through the most flavor, most nicotine TH and most nicotine irritation, makes thin looking vapor

VG - thick (too thick alone for many ways to vape), dulls everything PG lets through, makes thicker visible vapor

I use cartomizers and 80PG/20VG juices which let through most of the flavor and hit, buffer the irritation enough for me, and the 20% Vg adds a bit of nice vapor. You can also use 70PG/30VG for a bit more vapor but I think my cartos last longer with 20% VG or less. I also avoid all dark, opaque or cloudy juices which often drop flavoring sediment in the stuffing, gunk up atty and carto coils, degrading the wicking/vapor/flavor/drag.

Boge 2 ohm cartomizers are the most popular cartos on Ego though the cooler 3 ohm ones are a bit more forgiving to learn on (won't singe as easily when the juice gets a bit too low). I can get 10 days use out of a Boge or about 20ml run through it.

 

[DeadPerfect]

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[tmcase]

According to their site, the liquid is 18mg. eGo's, which is what you have, are usually the kits that everyone suggests to get. However, I prefer going with more voltage.

Here is a setup that I recommend. You can vape it at any voltage depending on the type of battery/batteries that you put in it. Right now, he's waiting on new batteries to come in for the kits but he said it should be monday.

Here's the mod...http://elitevaporworks.com/mods.html...free shipping.
Batteries...AW LiFePO4 RCR 123 X 4 (2 per set for 6V vaping)
Charger...same vendor as the batteries.....Ultrafire WF-138a
Cartomizers....free shipping...either of these are great for high voltage vaping....Carto's also builds a nice 5V box mod and sells everything you need on the site also if you choose to go 5V.

As for juice, you can get 0mg from just about any vendor. A good vendor that has a huge variety is freedomsmokeusa.com. They charge a flat $5 shipping no matter how big or small your order is.

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