Newbie question: pluses and minuses of getting hooked on vaping

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For me the biggest con is having to deal with the stigma of smoking. Meaning I think folks are ignorant of the facts and because of this they believe vaping to be harmful to those around you. The science currently available doesn't support this. I really hope over time as it gains acceptance, people will become more educated and tolerant... however, as much as I love this country, we have always been a bit a of a nanny state.
 

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...Are we in danger of becoming hooked on vaping as a nicotine intake device, only to find that the authorities are attempting to criminalize e-cigarettes?

I know lots of folks "out there" seem to behave as though nicotine consumption through vaping is just as dangerous as analog smoking. Would like some facts and moral support so that this is a decision I feel okay with, given that ultimately I'm not necessarily doomed to becoming an obsessive vaper (though I had a few experiences of hugely "nic-ing out").

Ok, first, congrats on coming back to ecigs, instead of analogs for your rebound into nicotine. And second, there are many reasons why vaping is more healthy/less harmful than smoking analogs... to wit:

This is a Korean study on the number of chemicals in analogs vs those in ecigs based on strict chemical analysis of each.

No idea what brands of either they used but the evidence is clear without even knowing the effect of the chemicals on the human body: 4 chemicals is less than *approx* 4,000 chemicals...

http://www.janty.com/en/news/item/vapor-test-results-by-keca

As far as criminalizing vaping, people are scared of what they don't understand (ie: electricity at one point would've been seen as witchcraft), so there will always be those who chose to stay ignorant and demeaning because they would rather stick their collective heads in the sand than educate themselves. Meaning it is up to us, the ecig community to be willing to educate in a consistant manner about ecigarettes vs analogs.

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As far as negatives from quitting smoking and moving to vaping there have only been 2, and they would actually be things experienced more intensely by those who never smoked at all.

First, my sense of smell is stronger which means that all smells are more potent. And second, I now have to use a respirator (like an intelligent human) when spraying my trailer with deisel (used to help prevent freezing coal during transport) while at work. :D

As a quick note, even the smokers are starting to move to a respirator, apparently lungs torched and nearly scarred by inhaling vaporized hydrocarbons affects both sides lol.


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This is my intentions, currently vaping 4mg and smoking, have drastically cut on the smoking front, will quit soon enough, and then I want to work on cutting the nic, then I want to vape chocolate and quit that too, its a miracle. Ok I got a bit silly with the chocolate but I do intend on cutting noc entirely because I am sure my law makers here in Australia and working on disallowing me to have it completely, they can not stop me having flavoured juice though, and I like the system of vaping.

Agree with you.

From what I've observed, e-cig marketers and businesses are being quite careful NOT to make health claims. They only indicate that vaping e-cigs is an alternative form for consuming nicotine (hazard reduction), which does appear to avoid the most commonly known health risks associated with smoking tobacco.

In the meantime, realistically, I'm not planning to stop vaping in the foreseeable future. I don't want to play mind games with myself on this. At some point might wean down my nicotine level from 12mg to 6mg juice; it won't involve the pathetic risks that smokers take when they switch from full-flavor full-nicotine cigarettes to what formerly were called "low tar" or "light" cigarettes, where most smokers compensate by pursuing their lips around the air holes in the filter, draw harder and inhale deeper than with full-flavor full-nicotine cigs.

In other words, I know that my mind and emotions operate better using nicotine, and this is a far better means of enjoying nicotine intake.
 
For me the biggest con is having to deal with the stigma of smoking. Meaning I think folks are ignorant of the facts and because of this they believe vaping to be harmful to those around you. The science currently available doesn't support this. I really hope over time as it gains acceptance, people will become more educated and tolerant... however, as much as I love this country, we have always been a bit a of a nanny state.
Agree with you. Too many people are bigots with regard to e-cigarettes, they want people to quit smoking but simply refuse to acknowledge the reality that most American smokers who were able to quit have already done so, AND that many of those who have quit, bear "a chip on their shoulder" for being coerced into doing so. Many ex-smokers have put on a lot of excess weight, and have had some remorse and regret that there's no magical psychological "pot of gold" for ex-smokers. The risk of relapse is always present - my belief is that ex-smokers are akin to a "dormant volcano". An inactive volcano may be inactive for many years, decades or even centuries, but at any time and with little or no notice, the "dormant volcano" can and will come back to life and begin spewing out volcanic ash, smoke and lava.
 

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The biggest drawback to vaping vs cigarettes has got to be the increased sense of smell.


I now fear public restrooms. My use of the elevator has become a daily reminder that not everyone has good hygiene. And there are now people I will not stand within 3 feet of when they speak because of their breath.

And then there is my backyard, which used to be pleasant before I could smell my German Shepherd's "presents".


Sure, being able to smell flowers is wonderful. Food smells delicious. My wife's perfume is amazing.

But not everything in life has a pleasant smell, and there are sometimes where I miss my dulled senses.
 

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Analogs stink and have an awful negative social stigma, yet I see elected officials being pressured into creating an antagonistic stigma to vaping. Are we in danger of becoming hooked on vaping as a nicotine intake device, only to find that the authorities are attempting to criminalize e-cigarettes?

I was someone who had quit analogs completely several months ago using the "Red Green Show" mens' prayer doctrine: "I can quit smoking, if I have to, I guess". After a rather jolting personal experience, I reached a point five weeks ago where I had decided to relapse back to nicotine intake, for better or worse, but decided with great caution to start with disposable e-cigs. After a few experiences with disposables, I'm now using a couple of good entry-level Aspire ET BDC tanks filled with two different types of juices (tobacco and menthol flavor), entry level Ego 1100 battery, and charger. Dramatically more interesting than disposables, although they are a great alternative to buying and smoking a pack of analogs after "quitting". My juices are 12 mg (less than the disposables rated at 18 mg), it definitely helps deal with nicotine craving.

I know lots of folks "out there" seem to behave as though nicotine consumption through vaping is just as dangerous as analog smoking. Would like some facts and moral support so that this is a decision I feel okay with, given that ultimately I'm not necessarily doomed to becoming an obsessive vaper (though I had a few experiences of hugely "nic-ing out").

Use the MSDS to compare the chemicals. I don't see how such a drastic difference could even be inferred as similar.
 

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I am sure that I will get grief for this but no one that vapes can say with certainty that it is safe. Is it safer than cigarettes, probably but whenever I refer a friend to vaping; I make sure that I say, "logic would dictate that it is safer but I don't really know".

I agree that there are ...... out there who will just complain. As it relates, they see smoke and they believe it is bad and don't think any further past it. I also agree that there seems to be a lot of false information out there to derail vaping in public. Is it a money conspiracy or just public officials reacting to ......, who make up the majority; complaining about something they don't understand? I don't know.

When you see these prescription drug ads and the side effects to them, they don't seem too safe to me either and I would rather vape but I am fully aware that I could be hurting myself more than smoking and I have accepted that.

Beef is safe for consumption but you wouldn't eat beef from a restaurant that was never cleaned and not required to meet any food safety requirements and if you took all the nicotine and "chemicals in analog" talk away, you are inhaling a juice made with no sanitation standards or regulation in a device made in China with no sanitation standards (and who put lead in children's toys just a few years ago) and assuming that someone who is trying to make money off of you will spend more money to make their product safe for you when not doing it is cheaper is naive.

The biggest issue that I personally have is that the manufactures, wholesalers, retail and online vendors apparently are making no attempt or little attempt to educate the general public or pay for these studies that will answer the safety questions for us. I don't see any ingredients on juice and have never bought anything from anyone who made an attempt to show how their product was safer.............only that it is cheaper.

The difference? I can control how much nicotine I take in and I can lower it to nothing and eventually quit both and whether it is safe or not, I do feel better.
 

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The biggest plus to me is that I control the amount of nicotine I take in. presently we are mixing 6 and 12 50/50 So i guess that would be about a 9 if anything I over use the 6 to make sure we aren't going any stronger. next delivery is a 50ml of 6 and a 30ml of 12.cutting it down even more. my son doesn't even use any nicotine any more.

Oh yeah and the flavors. the cinnamon candy one is my fav. I didn't even gain any wait when we started vaping, granted we are still hitting about 2 or 3 analogs a day, but working on that. But I have managed to loose 18 lbs even though all the food tastes better.
 
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