Newbie Steeping question

[Jdbaker82]

I know with steeping your supposed to put in a totally dark cool place but let's say you just let it out on a counter in the room where sunlight does get to it will it still steep but just take much longer or does it absolutely need total dark?

also is breathing necessary for all juices for a couple hours or a day while your steeping?

 

[Thundernoggin]

I only breath mine an hour or two, 12 hours max. Keeping the juice out of any light is best. A box, a drawer, you can find something. And yes, cool is also important.

 

[Jdbaker82]

I bought one of those vape stations off Amazon for $69 so I just keep all my juices in there. defintly dark but only as cool as room temperature in my house.... maybe I should keep it in the basement.

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[Jdbaker82]

another question.... once a juice is steeped will it go bad after a few months or will it stay steeped just right for up to a year or what?

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[jwvpz]

Not sure I go through my juice quick ha. As far as steeping goes, I kept my vazilla in a cabinet over night with the cap off ( roughly 12 hrs ) and it absolutly did wonders for the taste. Some juice doesn't even need to be steeped. Always give the juice a good shake before opening when you buy it then open it up. If it smells fine your probably good to go. If it has a perfume smell or almost alcohol smell then steep it and see what happens. Some juice is just bad from the get go

 

[Alac]

I know with steeping your supposed to put in a totally dark cool place but let's say you just let it out on a counter in the room where sunlight does get to it will it still steep but just take much longer or does it absolutely need total dark?

Keep it out of direct sunlight. Its not the dark, or the coolness that lets it steep. Sunlight and heat can degrade the liquid.

also is breathing necessary for all juices for a couple hours or a day while your steeping?

Only the perfumy, alcoholy, mediciny tasteing ones need to breath. What your doing is allowing the alcohol from the flavor carrier to evaporate off.

another question.... once a juice is steeped will it go bad after a few months or will it stay steeped just right for up to a year or what?

Once fully steeped, it usually stays the same. This is not universally true, just 95% (87.32% of all statistics are made up on the spot) of the time. IIRC it seems there are a FEW custards that have overstepped, but I cant really say I'm remembering correctly and I don't do custards.
Steeping is just letting the flavors and the base to mix over time, once mixed it will not change until the liquid degrades in some fashion. This includes nicotine oxidation, flavor or base "spoilage". Even after steeping, heat and sunlight take a toll on e-liquids.

 

[vjc0628]

another question.... once a juice is steeped will it go bad after a few months or will it stay steeped just right for up to a year or what?

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juices made with natural ingredients for the most part is good for around a year
juices with synthetic ingredients can be good for a couple years

 

[vjc0628]

also is breathing necessary for all juices for a couple hours or a day while your steeping?

I do it for around 10 min up to an hour

unless the juice is made with alcohol then I do overnight

 

[Itchy Brain]

So do all juices need to be steeped or aired unless it is stated that it is BRV (bottled ready to vape)? Or, conversely, will a bottle that needs to be steeped say so?

 

[Alac]

So do all juices need to be steeped or aired unless it is stated that it is BRV (bottled ready to vape)? Or, conversely, will a bottle that needs to be steeped say so?

Only the perfumy, alcoholy, mediciny tasteing ones need to breath (aired). Regardless of when made. Sometimes these may actually be steeped. A juice may have been capped and sealed trapping the alcohol in the liquid. As an example, a juice can be made in China, wait in a warehouse for a week, shipped to a vender taking 2-3 weeks transport to a store in the states where it sits on their shelf for another week or 2 until it is sold to the user. At 5 weeks old, the flavors have mixed but the alcohol is still trapped in the bottle.
From what I've seen, no one ever tells you that you need to breath their liquid.

1) imported juices usually have enough steep time due to transport. Venders that say "pre-steeped" are usually steeped also.
2) known "made to order" liquids can benefit from at least 1 week steeping.
Everything else that falls between 1 and 2 is up in the air, and few venders actually say where they are on this. They may give a suggested steep time, but usually they don't.

I stay on the safe side and let everything sit for a week at least.

 

[Jdbaker82]

thanks alec that was very helpful

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[Itchy Brain]

Thanks, Alac. I appreciate the info.

 

[Doghead]

I've found some flavors need no significant steeping, others do. Find at least one that doesn't and you're safe from running out of vapable liquid!


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[jonhall2]

if your juice is not ready to vape when you get it, contact your vendor first. if they try to give you helpful information, follow their instruction. if they blame your setup, device, or whatever else but their juice, i would source a different vendor. i am a little curious, what about your juice makes you think it needs steeping? i've only had two NET tobacco juices that came jacked up. they were from the same vendor that had only recently began making NETs then. they were mistakingly very proud of their new in-house extractions and blamed my bcc. at the time, i would use a brand new T3s for every flavor i recieved. label it and put it in a rack i made to hold 35 of them. the ry4 i got tasted like vanilla. thats about all. i thought thats a nice tobacco flavored vanilla. that was in february. now it tastes like caramel not vanilla and the tobacco is mute. the other was full of alcohol and i had to leave the bottle open under a water glass for two days to elevate the evaporation point enough to vape at 5 watts. two months of steeping after that it was still a nasty flavor and no amount of steeping will ever make it better. that was enough experience to never order/vape NETs from anybody again. now i diy so if i buy juice it is because i already know it is good and want to clone the flavor.

make sure your device is clean. new coil/fresh wick and retry.

 

[Heabob]

I know with steeping your supposed to put in a totally dark cool place but let's say you just let it out on a counter in the room where sunlight does get to it will it still steep but just take much longer or does it absolutely need total dark?

also is breathing necessary for all juices for a couple hours or a day while your steeping?

Just keep out of direct sunlight, many here speed steep with heat so that isn't really an issue, (for a limited time of course).

Some mixes just need "time" to blend together better, and only need breathing if a perfume/alcohol taste/smell is present.

I'd only worry about "total dark" for long term storage.

 

[m1911]

Ahh thanks for the infos, being such a newbie, i bought several local liquid, it tasted funny. Some smell like alcohol, some just plain weird. Now i will try to steep, breathe etc....if within a week or so, it still smell terrible, i will set them on fire!