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DumbleFux

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Hi all, I'm a relatively new vaper, about 3 months. I'm in love and have almost kicked analogs.

I currently use an itaste 3 with a protank mini 3. I like it a lot but I'm having issues with the coils plugging up in just a couple of days, some leaking and not much flavor. I use MTBaker 50/50 liquid mostly and I go at it pretty hard. I think I like the dual coils but haven't tried a single, I also really like the vv/vw but don't know if I need it.

I'd like something with less fuss and a bigger battery. I need something for home and away. Mods look great but I want something simple and I don't see myself making coils either but that could change. What I want: 1000+ma battery, pocket-able, and reliable coils that last longer than my current setup. What options should I be looking at? Lots of great info and options here but it all confuses me. Thanks for your help.
 

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You're already using some of the best non-rebuildable gear out there. The VV V3 has a smooth DC signal so it's going to be a more satisfying vape than most 33.3hz mods out there. And the Protank 3 is a pretty decent vape, one of the best before going to a rebuildable.

What juices exactly are you using? Darker and sweeter juices will gunk up coils faster.

Also what kind of budget are you looking at?
 

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Hi all, I'm a relatively new vaper, about 3 months. I'm in love and have almost kicked analogs.

I currently use an itaste 3 with a protank mini 3. I like it a lot but I'm having issues with the coils plugging up in just a couple of days, some leaking and not much flavor. I use MTBaker 50/50 liquid mostly and I go at it pretty hard. I think I like the dual coils but haven't tried a single, I also really like the vv/vw but don't know if I need it.

I'd like something with less fuss and a bigger battery. I need something for home and away. Mods look great but I want something simple and I don't see myself making coils either but that could change. What I want: 1000+ma battery, pocket-able, and reliable coils that last longer than my current setup. What options should I be looking at? Lots of great info and options here but it all confuses me. Thanks for your help.

Thick dark eliquids tend to gunk coils faster.
You might find unflavored lets your coils last longer.

Cotton rewick is one of the most usefull things I've found; easy to dryburn and rewick a coil instead of recoiling.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/edyle/6350-faq-1-what-tank-new-user.html

Single coil easy to rewick; I dunno about dual coil, but I expect it's pretty tricky to rewick a dual coil; people tend to just redo the duals into singles.

With 3 months in, it's time to get a proper mod with replaceable batts.
Typical 18650 batts are 2000 mah.

Mod options:
vamo, zmax, sid, tesla, provari, svd, vtr, e-lvt
 

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Yeah I was going to suggest the MVP V2 also, but it takes up more real estate.

I was actually thinking mod wise to go with perhaps a Sigelei ZMAX Mini and an extra battery with case. Or if the budget is there a Provari Mini with an 18490 and an extension cap.

As for an atomizer I'm almost thinking a carto tank. Cartos tend to last longer and are fairly cheap, and you slap that in a tank and you're good all day.
 

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I dunno... your gear is fine and honestly, I couldn't go back to a plain battery after using a regulated device. Try a single coil tank perhaps. The protank mini is popular and replacement heads are cheap.

I was actually thinking mod wise to go with perhaps a Sigelei ZMAX Mini and an extra battery with case.
Better get a bushel of batteries for that Sieglei. Mine ate 'em up for breakfast. Probably just my experience but I'll never get another Segelei again.

If I were to go the 18000 battery series route again I'd just fork over the dough for a provari mini with extensions and be done with it.
 

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I agree with that, just make sure you get a decent cargo. if not you will have problems. you could upgrade to a better manger, or even go with the nautilus. the nautilus mini just came out. and from all indication it is worth the wait.

mod wise, it is personal preference. if you hav the cash for it, the Provari is an amazing device. truly. but they are pricey. for half the cost of it there is a whole list of choices. are there any vape shops near you/ if so you should go check them out...sit down and actually put your hand on a few different mods. it is weird, because everyone's style/taste/ preference is different. so you are basically asking for everyones personal experience and opinion. you will get a lot of mixed reviews depending on everyone's different experiences.

I will say this. I have not met anyone that bought a Provari that did not fall in love with it. it is a really great device. pretty easy to use. and gets the job done one vape at a time. that would be my suggestion. that and a nautilus ... or a nice cartomizer and you can find Vape heaven pretty quick.
 

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Hi all, I'm a relatively new vaper, about 3 months. I'm in love and have almost kicked analogs.

I currently use an itaste 3 with a protank mini 3. I like it a lot but I'm having issues with the coils plugging up in just a couple of days, some leaking and not much flavor. I use MTBaker 50/50 liquid mostly and I go at it pretty hard. I think I like the dual coils but haven't tried a single, I also really like the vv/vw but don't know if I need it.

I'd like something with less fuss and a bigger battery. I need something for home and away. Mods look great but I want something simple and I don't see myself making coils either but that could change. What I want: 1000+ma battery, pocket-able, and reliable coils that last longer than my current setup. What options should I be looking at? Lots of great info and options here but it all confuses me. Thanks for your help.

Yeah, like some others have already said, an MVP. 2600 mAh battery. Should last a good, long time. Best price I've seen on them is here:

Innokin iTaste MVP V2.0 - 101 Vape

I haven't dealt (yet) with 101 myself but a lot of people I know around here recommend them. And often.

Though, now, I use this guy:

Innokin VTR - 101 Vape

Not as "pocketable" but I have no trouble slipping it my jean's pocket. Some complain it's "heavy" and it's definitely more so than a lot of mods but I don't find it a problem. Definitely a sturdy beast. :)

I go at it pretty hard

Yeah, me too. Which is why I mention the VTR. The "up front" is a bit steeper as you have to get batteries and a charger in addition to the VTR but being able to swap out an 18650 battery and keep going is fantastic. Also, in the long run, cheaper. Even the MVP (which a lot of people I trust say is a great device) is, basically, "disposable". When the battery goes (and it will eventually), it's not replaceable. You have to buy a new MVP. That's the advantage of the APV or "mod". High capacity batteries are pretty cheap. A 2500 mAh battery (about the same capacity as the MVP) is about $10 to $12. Definitely cheaper to replace when it goes (as all batteries will eventually).

I think I like the dual coils but haven't tried a single

I dunno. The last time I tried a single after being on dual... it was disappointing.

I'm on iClear 30s right now and far as clogging, if you're a heavy vaper like I am, well, one thing is get in extra coils. I rotate mine frequently (soaking and etc.). Heavy vaping is... well... hard on a coil. So I do a rotation and clean them often. And they're also pretty cheap (iClear 30s coils run about $3) so I replace them fairly often (not daily just... as needed but always have spares around).

Vodka is mentioned as good to soak coils in. I haven't tried it yet but gotta get some cheap vodka in and see if I can make my coils last longer. Not that I'm going through them fast. More that I'm on a budget and squeezing out every penny. :)
 

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I just soak my bottom coils in hot tap water. Let em sit in a cup for 15 min. Take it out dry it up some then burn the coil/wicks until they water free. I have made coils that have lasted 2-3 weeks. A few times I squeezed out 1 full month. Considering the coils I buy are just $1.79 that's not too bad cost wise. About 25 bucks a year give or take.
 

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I too have the iTaste v3 and it is a mighty fine device for a newbie (like me). In the future I will get a MVP just for the increased battery life.

I tend to stray away from exotic builds, unregulated mods, and the like. I want something simple as grabbing a pack of cigarettes from my local store. I started with a simple ego clone kit with CE4 clearomizers which I clogged really quick. From there I moved to the bottom coil clearomizers T3S. Those clearos were a huge improvement to the CE4 but again I found a couple of issues with them. 1. They will flood on occasion and will need to be cleared. 2. The stock wicks never seemed to provide enough "flow" and I would end up tasting wick. Not disgusting, but definitely took away from the whole experience.

I then began to experiment with wicks and coils.

I first started with cotton balls. Those tasted like pure cotton. Gross!

Then I went to cotton yarn. Much improved but still a little "dry" and cottony.

Then on to organic cotton balls. Oh yes this was it!

Finally I have been experimenting with rayon which is an improvement to organic cotton, but if I run out of Rayon I will go back to organic cotton for sure.

I then got a few EVOD heads and played around with them. First I ditched the stock wicks and used organic cotton. WOW what a difference. Flavor is better, leaks are minimized if not eliminated, and cleaning is super easy. When using silica I'd have to dry burn the entire unit every night and was becoming a hassle. Once I had the EVOD heads mastered I upgraded to an Aerotank (similar to PT3) and was good to go in stock configuration for a little while. On my iTaste it never seemed to do any better than my EVODs which was disappointing. I fooled with the coil unit on the Aerotank and finally decided that I did not have enough power to sufficiently fire the device. I would venture to say that there are/will be many disappointed users on dual coil setups because they are not powering them correctly. I won't get into the volts and ohms but put it this way, if you are putting out 6 watts in a single coil setup when you step up to a dual setup you will only be putting 3 watts into each coil which is essentially half your heat capacity per coil, and IMO this isn't an ideal situation.

However I did find a work around. What I did was take an EVOD head that I rolled myself (see below). Now since that head is shorter than the stock Aerotank head I had to seal the gap. What I did was take the silicone grommet and invert it on top of the EVOD grommet so the stock EVOD grommet is in its normal configuration and the Aerotank grommet is on top of it upside down. This seals the extra space perfectly and provides a damn good vape at 8 watts from my iTaste. It makes my purchase of the Aerotank one that I DO NOT regret one bit.

So in summary for your PT3 I would get an EVOD head, leave it stock for now but I'd HIGHLY suggest to rewick with organic cotton, take the grommet from your PT3 coil unit and flip it upside down and place it on the EVOD head and install the whole thing in your PT3. I'd bet that it will vape like never before.

Hope this helps as I may have jumbled a few things up and will proof it some more it a little later.

I posted this in another thread but I think it may help a little:

FWIW 6 wraps of 30 ga kanthal around a #0 precision screwdriver will yield 1.7 to 1.9 ohms with 95% of them being 1.8 ohms. The screwdriver is too big to fit in the channel so you will have to drop the coil in on something smaller than the mandrel you wound it on. I pull my wraps tight and compress them as best I can. Then I slightly expand it on the mandrel so that there is slight spacing between them. IMO a tight bunched coil is too hot for a bottom coil clearo and you will start to taste the wick. The 30 ga is much more resilient to rewicking as I have seen the 32 distort like crazy if the wick snags the coil during extraction.
I'd recommend dry burning the coil before wicking as some contaminants may get on the coil while you are wrapping it. (skin cells, oils, and etc)

For wicks organic cotton is the standard for now. You will need to use a portion that is about the same diameter of the coil. Any more and you will taste wick. Any less and it will leak.

If you try rayon then you will need a piece about 2x the diameter of the coil and give it a slight twist while putting it in the coil. It will need to drag a little on the coil and this is where 30 ga shines as it will maintain its shape unlike the 32.

Now for wick break-in and priming:
Before I replace the chimney I drop about 3 drops of my liquid on the dry wick. Then I pop on the chimney and silicone grommet. I then look closely at the wick and make sure that there are NO air gaps in between the coil housing and the wick. If so then I try and spread the wick out a little. If that doesn't work I go back to the sink, wash the coil unit out and rewick it. IMO the silicone grommet should be slightly compressing the wick. That is what I look for to ensure no leaks.

Once I am satisfied with the wicking I fill the clearo and then install the coil unit. When screwing down the coil unit I twist a few turns one way then back it off a little and then do it again until it is tight. I have found the sometimes the wick material will hit the wall of the clearo housing causing it to bunch on one side. This twist/untwist method seems to work for me.

Now I install it on my vv and set it to 6W. I take a few dry primer pulls until I see a bubble or two. Then I hit the fire button and take a few more short pulls. Then I am on to the longer pulls until the vapor production is what I am expecting. Once satisfied with the vapor production I then turn up the power. For me 7.5-8W is the best for most of my juices.

I am not an expert by any means but I am an engineer by trade and I tend to be very meticulous about things and either write down what I do (especially coil "recipes"), or just remember them.

Honestly it took me longer to write this post than it takes to do the entire process from the beginning.

That's just my experiences. YMMV.

Now rebuilding isn't for everyone and I totally understand that, but I think everyone should at a minimum learn to rewick especially with bottom coil clearos. It was a night and day difference between stock silica and organic cotton. The maintenance is super simple, just carefully pull out the old wick, dry burn, rinse, dry burn again, slip some cotton in the coil, lightly put a few drops on the wick to prime it and you are off and running.
 
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Depending on form factor I'd go wit the mvp2 or the evic. Both are good mods. I have both and love em but the best upgrade I did was switching to a kafun lite v3 RTA. It is a rebuild able but it's not hard to rebuild. IMO the pro tanks are one of the best for factory coils but the mini 3 has leaking issues if you chain vape due to hot thin juice. If you draw hard it will also flood and leak
 

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I only started vaping 2 weeks ago. Started out with the Evod 2 kit, but wanted a stronger vape. So I upgraded to an iTaste MVP V2.0. Been vaping with it since Monday and I absolutely LOVE it! The battery lasts forever and a day, it's super easy to understand and adjust, plus there's the awesome MVP Owners Forum/Thread on here and they are super nice and helpful. I ordered some 3M Di-Noc samples and made a wrap for free (thanks for the tip from the forum). I use my Aerotank Mega, no probs. I can never see myself using something else.
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I have have just a basic one a brought from a shop in England called the vape shop it's cheap and it works, I had been smoking for 13 years on 20 a day I brought it 4 days ago and haven't smoked in 3 days I have only charged it twice and that includes the first charge, I think all the expensive ones are a waste of money


Hi all, I'm a relatively new vaper, about 3 months. I'm in love and have almost kicked analogs.

I currently use an itaste 3 with a protank mini 3. I like it a lot but I'm having issues with the coils plugging up in just a couple of days, some leaking and not much flavor. I use MTBaker 50/50 liquid mostly and I go at it pretty hard. I think I like the dual coils but haven't tried a single, I also really like the vv/vw but don't know if I need it.

I'd like something with less fuss and a bigger battery. I need something for home and away. Mods look great but I want something simple and I don't see myself making coils either but that could change. What I want: 1000+ma battery, pocket-able, and reliable coils that last longer than my current setup. What options should I be looking at? Lots of great info and options here but it all confuses me. Thanks for your help.
 

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The MVP is a killer device and provides an outstanding vape , it's the only thing i have found that can last multiple days without charging and gives a great vape with everything you put on it , hey how can close to 800+ FIVE star reviews be wrong.

Read them on 101 vapes website or any site that has reviews for that matter.
 
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