Newbie Tips. From a Newbie.

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Lisbeth

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Hi there!

I've lurked at this forum for months and finally jumped in and purchased a kit from Cignot, and that was the end of it. Hooked, obsessed. You know the rest.

I thought I'd put together a few tips for the so-new-I'm-trying-to-figure-out-how-to-put-the-cartridge-in vaper, being one and all.


1) Will vaping Work for Me?

Husband hated it the moment he tried it and I loved it. I think the big reason was because I was crazy-mad to try it before I ever ordered one and must have read up on it for months before jumping in whereas he was more non-committal and didn't chase it down at all. By the time I actually bought one, I was determined to like it. Hell, I liked it before I ever tried it.

In other words, if you're reading this thread and have not bought one yet, then there's a good chance you'll take to it like a babe to milk.

2) What Not to Expect

It's not a cigarette. The obvious 'Doh' factor notwithstanding, you have to approach it as a whole new 'smoking' experience, not unlike trying a clove for the first time. I personally have not found anything to really taste like tobacco, but I could care less because IMO, vaping actually tastes better.

Having said, if you liked flavoured cigarettes at all, you'll pee with joy.


3) Best Place to Start

Cignot.com, in my opinion. They were consistently recommended time and time again as being easy to work with, super cheap and willing to fix problems as well as speedy-super-fast. I was able to but the 62.00 kit which included two atomizers, two cartridges and the USB passthru, plus flavors. I am utterly satisfied. I don't work for the company or have any affiliations, I'm just a satisfied customer.

P.S. Don't even think of not getting a USB passthru. It allows you to vape while plugged in to your PC, thus saving precious battery life.

4) Best System to Start With

Joye510. But this is also the only system I own. However, it was very intuitive, worked right out of the package and I didn't have to futz much. You need that advantage as a beginner, IMO.

Also, you'll need more batteries than you think. I have four now and can leave the house without panicking. And I've only been vaping 2 weeks.


5) Best Flavors

I bought the USAMix (did not like) and the RY4 (did like) as well as Vanilla (did not like), Chocolate (did not like) and Hilton (did not like). My problem was that I have apparently less sensitive taste buds than the average camper. This makes sense as I like strong and unusual flavors such as capers, anchovies and clove. And coffee black as the Pharaoh's heart.

In other words, most of these did not taste like anything to me. Yes, there was a 'flavor' but it was barely discernible. At times, it tasted like burnt coffee and occasionally ammonia (more on that later).

When I finally tried the RY4, I knew I had something. There was a definite Mapley taste not prevalent in the others. I was elated to find something that actually had taste!

6) PG vs. VG

I started with PG, and then this week tried VG. I far prefer the VG although it seemed nearly everyone else liked PG.

PG seems to me to be more likely to get the ammonia-burnt coffee taste. I vape pretty heavy, and now know ways to avoid this, but I was fairly sold with the VG out of the box. It's sweeter, smoother, lots more vapor and tastes better. To me, anyway.

7) Burnt-Coffee-Ammonia Funk

This was the one thing that made me nuts, and the one thing that would have been preventable if I had just known a few things from the start. My bloody vape would for no reason, taste like 2 day old gas station coffee and smell like a wino on a 6 day binge. Here is what I found.

a) Keep the cartridge slushy-wet. Likely every 20 puffs it needs a few drips. When it gets dry, it gets rank.

b) The filler material should be level with, and not below, the cartridge. Apparently this allows the wick direct contact. THis single trick fairly cleared up my burnt atty taste, as I intuitively thought that filler SHOULD NEVER touch the wick, and so kept poking it down.

Don't do that, btw.

c) Clean the filler. I clean mine once every day, maybe two. Now I'm at the point where if I taste the funk, I just clean it out. That generally resolves it.

8) There is no perfect case.

So it is your duty, as a new vaper, to find one and report it directly to me.

I've seen some fairly good ideas, but nothing that holds my liquids, carts, atomizers and all of the various accoutrements which is also attractive (meaning not looking like some utilitarian, industrial mantote). I'm a Libra and a girl, after all.

9) Vapeboxes come close.

I have not yet broken down and bought one, but they are schweet. In fact, the only reason I started this post was to comment on that thread, and then discovered...

10) You have to post a minimum of posts in the Newbie Thread.

So here I am. Feel free to comment to fulfill your own quota as well.

:cool:

Lis

Addendum: You do have a lot of money and time to spend for the next month, yes?

All I'm saying is be nice to the Mailperson.
 

StormFinch

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Hey, if that's your boat there I want to be in it right now!!!!
With my DAMN 510 wherever the heck it is? :mad:

I'm NOT liking the mailman too much today, looks like he missed me again.

Ok, I'll just relax now.


Ah yes, mailmen, the bane of every e-cig user's existence. Get used to it, you will be stalking him for as long as you are ordering juices and parts. :lol: :D

Oh, and a quick rule of thumb, order confirmation numbers through USPS are not tracking numbers and following your package online can be hazardous to your sanity. ;) If your package hasn't been delivered in more than 5 days then you might want to check up on it, but otherwise keep calm and stock up on supplies well before you think you'll need them.
 

mick11

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Welcome new vapers and congrats on your wise decision.

One hint, DO NOT discard any juice that you may think now is not good. Depending on how much you smoked, your taste buds are shot! The good news, as I have experienced now, is that they will recover. And when they do you will most likely find some that were not good to you will become much much better. Just my $0.02 but that's what happened to me.

Vape on!
 

tomoiaga

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Interesting, I had very similar experiences, although switched to VG with a little PG mixed after a month and not two weeks :) Don't like 100% PG for the same reasons.
Same with flavors. RY4 is good.

Regarding the filter, I used the ADM mod, posted here somewhere. Seemed very easy to do out of the box. By default there is too much poly, with this mod you reduce pretty much all of it. It works great for me, more vaping time from one cart.

Good luck and happy vaping!
 
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Lisbeth

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Welcome new vapers and congrats on your wise decision.

One hint, DO NOT discard any juice that you may think now is not good. Depending on how much you smoked, your taste buds are shot! The good news, as I have experienced now, is that they will recover. And when they do you will most likely find some that were not good to you will become much much better. Just my $0.02 but that's what happened to me.

Vape on!


That is a most excellent suggestion. I hadn't even considered that.


Hang in there, Chazz! Tomorrow for sure. :D


WW - Auto-drip mod? Links?


Born Against - Seriously, had I not found this forum, I probably never would have gone for it. But then, I bet that speaks for the vast majority here as well.

So, thank YOU!


:D
 

bsoplinger

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I got the DSE901, very similar to the Joye 510, but it gives more taste at the cost of TH and vapor. Had the same problem, that awful taste suddenly happening. A few inhales and everything was fine then old sock taste. I went through the mod (for modification) area and found the cartridge mod section. There are a number of mods in there all of which are designed to help the flow of juice to atomizer. I like the straw mod but other people like other ones. Regardless find one you can do and once you get a better flow of juice that awful taste should disappear.
 

tomoiaga

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Here ya go: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/cartridge-mods/46294-must-try-adm-auto-drip-mod.html

Hope it helps, worked for me. I am not sure I followed the whole protocol there, I kept just a little poly just to keep the liquid not leaking around. In the short movie I think he keeps a little more than I did but you will see and adjust :)

Ah, by the way, this also helps a little by not letting the standard card to be pushed all the way down. I burned a some carts by pushing all the way down into the atty and trust me, burnt plastic is not good :)
 
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Lisbeth

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Here ya go: *snipping URL because as a Newbie, I am not allowed. See tomoiaga's post above*

Hope it helps, worked for me. I am not sure I followed the whole protocol there, I kept just a little poly just to keep the liquid not leaking around. In the short movie I think he keeps a little more than I did but you will see and adjust :)

Ah, by the way, this also helps a little by not letting the standard card to be pushed all the way down. I burned a some carts by pushing all the way down into the atty and trust me, burnt plastic is not good :)

I was so mesmerized by the voice, it was hard to concentrate.

Once I got through the initial voice gaga, it looked like a really interesting mod, and I'm apt to give it a bash. I'm assuming that the reason this is a good alternative is because there's less opportunity to dry out and more opportunity for juice?

More juice is good. Perhaps I'll watch it a few more times to make sure I'm understanding the process.

It has nothing to do with the voice.

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Lisbeth

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I got the DSE901, very similar to the Joye 510, but it gives more taste at the cost of TH and vapor. Had the same problem, that awful taste suddenly happening. A few inhales and everything was fine then old sock taste. I went through the mod (for modification) area and found the cartridge mod section. There are a number of mods in there all of which are designed to help the flow of juice to atomizer. I like the straw mod but other people like other ones. Regardless find one you can do and once you get a better flow of juice that awful taste should disappear.

I'm at that point where I'm starting to play with mods, or at least entertain the idea.

I already grok how juice to atomizer ratios greatly increase vaping satisfaction. I'm also going to order some 0 mg liquid straightaway next week.

If you are indeed a newbie, your first thought will likely be 'Why in the world would I want to vape without nicotine'? Personally, I plan to alternate my nicotime drip with a nicotine-free drip, simply because I am vaping so much and it seems like I must be consuming a ton more nicotine than with cigarettes.

I asked on another thread what the ratio of nicotine was (all bottles are labeled Xmg, with X= number of milligrams, regardless of the size of the bottle). The answer was PER ML.

That seems incredibly high as I estimate I'm vaping at least an ML a day. I previously smoked VS120's and that's listed as 0.5 mg. I'm assuming per cigarette, but that would work out to about 10 mg's a day.

So, in an effort not to actually double my nicotine, I thought I'd try alternating.

We shall see.

;)
 

SirVette

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Lisbeth

That's something I looked into.
DVap has evidently put a lot of time into determining the amount of nic.
This example should help.
:cool:

DVap said:
We had 20 full flavor analogs per day delivering 20 mg of nicotine per day. I've found that we need to vape 2.5X the nicotine, or 50 mg/day, so we might vape ~2.5 mL of 20 mg or ~1.5 mg of 36 mg. We're putting ~ 50 mg of nicotine onto the atomizer coil because of that 50 mg, only 40% or 20 mg of nicotine makes it into the vapor and into our bodies. So by vaping 50 mg of nicotine per day, we are delivering 20 mg of nicotine per day to our bodies.
 
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