Newsflash.....my stupidity

[FreeFire]

Alright peeps. I made a few more discoveries this evening. Leaving my IPro at home with the tanks (as they were really foul tasting due to "burnt"), I took my eGo's along for the day....just slit my wrists.

So, I've been thinking and thinking, reading and thinking (yea, you saw smoke coming out my ears..LOL). Then I watched some more video reviews showing the voltage at different settings on the wheel. OK, no load at the YELLOW setting is 4.5. Under load is about 4.3-4.4. Got it.

At the RED setting it's around 5.3. So, last night I was typing away not paying any attention, grabbed the IPro, took another hit...ewwwwwwwwwwww....who burnt that shoe?....looked at the dial and I was over the red by half way to MAX. Um, that under load is approximately what? 5.3 or so? With a 2.5 Fusion, that might be asking for trouble...and it was....yeck.

So I promptly moved the dial down beneath the red thinking ok, this is where I've been vaping this tank set up for the last day or so..all should be good right? Nope. I think "I" burnt the carto....not the device. I was mystified when putting on my other tank that has a Boge 3.0 set up and that one burnt too....but remember, I still had the wheel closer to the RED...maybe just too much for it.

So, put on a Boge LR 2.0, dialed it down and inched it up carefully...all works fine. Hmmm, ok....maybe nothing is wrong with the IPro but instead the troubles come from operator error.

Grabbed a fresh 3.0, filled it....working great at just above the YELLOW setting. Being very careful not to go too high and tweek the vapor/flavor output. Also have a couple other 3.0's with various juices and have been swapping them trying settings.

I think maybe, just maybe there is nothing wrong with the IPro. I still may purchase another or a Buzz cause should one need servicing then I can send it off without having to deal with fixed voltage doo dah.

My question is for this evening: I noticed yesterday when putting in a different set of batteries, that at first they didn't fire....they were charged, ready to go. IS it possible if batteries have more output (say set 2 versus set 1) that the wheel settings on the IPro/BuzzPro differ?

Anybody know this answer?

Thanks for reading my diatribe....I think I'm nic buzzed trying all this stuff.............

 

[kempo63]

My question is for this evening: I noticed yesterday when putting in a different set of batteries, that at first they didn't fire....they were charged, ready to go. IS it possible if batteries have more output (say set 2 versus set 1) that the wheel settings on the IPro/BuzzPro differ?

Anybody know this answer?

Thanks for reading my diatribe....I think I'm nic buzzed trying all this stuff.............

You mean like if one set of batts is 7.2 and the other is 7.0? Nope, regulated is regulated. As long as you meet the input voltage, the output should be whatever you have it set at.

There is a small change in output voltage depending on the regulator, but I don't think it would be noticeable on the IP. Have to see the chip specs for the + or - percentage.

 

[FreeFire]

Thanks Kempo..that's what I thought.

BTW we have ALL burnt attys/carto not uncommon LOL !

I do it from time to time when not paying attention and turn it up on an old atty.

 

[BuzzKill]

The Controller is a 1.5% regulation variations so @ 5.0 volts it will be +/- .075 volts MAX it is normally much lower , some of the reviews you see show a .1 volt change but these meters do not have the resolution to show the actual voltage drop .

 

[FranC]

I have never burnt a carto in a tank simply because I can see when it's low on juice.

 

[5cardstud]

The only time I'v e ever witnessed the voltage being lower from one set to another is when the batteries need recharged. There is a brief period where the vape weakens but that's because the input is below the regulators demand.

 

[FranC]

Well said 5c and good to see you here.

 

[FreeFire]

Well, this morning....after vaping a newly set up tank last evening.....I got the burnt taste again.....Pulled the tip, added more to the filler from the top. I'm using a saddle valve until the carto "pops". This time I only put one hole in. My thinking is, maybe the hole isn't large enough for juice to keep the carto filler wet. I prime the carto before filling or putting a load on.

I noticed this particular carto's filler appears more dense than previous cartos.....and possibly more dense than the user

In any case.....this an enigma. The more I analyze, the more I think it might be keeping the carto wet problem than irregularity with the IPro. The IPro seems to be working just fine. Maybe I'll put another hole in the carto this evening. I've been adding juice to the top filler as the day progresses making certain it stays wet.

I still have no idea why the other night, both cartos developed the "burnt" consecutively....other than the first to where the voltage was jacked up by accident.

Good for you Fran....I should have you come over and get these right for me


Another thought came to mind (God forbid): Vaping at a higher voltage will "kick" up the juice usage, hence why maybe the carto can't keep up. Thoughts?

 

[5cardstud]

I completely fiill my carto before filling the tank. Which in the Fusions case I put around 20 t0 25 droips in it then I fill the tank.

 

[Bovinia]

Free, when I use my saddle valve and hear the "pop" I give it another 2 full turns. This makes the hole bigger, and I do 2 holes. Sounds to me like you need to try that and get more juice flowing into your carto

Something else to think about...the voltages given for each mark are an estimate. Each pot will vary +/- a little bit. The center yellow mark on my BP measures 4.7v on both my screw on meter and my hand held DMM.

Hang in there and you'll get it figured out

ETA: Me too 5C

 

[markfm]

On the fusions I really do dremel one large slot, equivalent to multiple standard punches. I also pour some liquid into the carto top on first fill.

 

[Bovinia]

When I was still using the dremel to slot, I still made 2 slots, and I wallowed them out a bit. Still never had one leak from having slots or holes too big.

 

[vikki59]

Free, I was having the same problem... Tank had plenty of juice in it, then all of a sudden BLAM, burnt nasty taste... It was the carto. I was putting 1 avg to small hole in it w/the saddle valve... Then I had a lucid moment and thought ~ lets try 2 holes ~ that was better, but not good enough. I reckon the 2 holes were just too small and too high up for the M1 tank. So now I have 1 carto with 2 much bigger holes using the saddle valve and I seem to have solved the problem... I feel much better knowing that I'm not the only one this is happened to. My juices aren't that thick 70/30 pg/vg. Altho my vg is pretty thick. So we shall see if I finally can have the success that most others seem to get from the fusions..

 

[FreeFire]

Thanks so much Bov & Vickki...yes...that is what I seem to be having problems with....I feel like such an idiot. Here I thought my IPro had voltage issues when in fact the carto holes weren't large enough. Once I got home this evening, I pulled the carto out, lined up the saddle valve and made the first hole larger. Then spun the carto around and made another one in the opposite side. It seems to be working much better.

Bov, I never thought to give it another 2 full turns as the video demonstrations said just till it pops..but makes no sense to me because a tiny little hole would not be sufficient for enough juice flow, especially tight packed filler. So from now on, larger holes for me.

Thank you all so much....and Mike.....my IPro is working perfectly......duh.

 

[Bovinia]

My biggest problem with the saddle valve is getting the damn carto lined up right! I'll get it in and tightened down, spin the punch down and that bugger will go down the side of the carto. Undo...realign, try again until I gt it centered. Chit on these old geezer eyes

 

[FreeFire]

My biggest problem with the saddle valve is getting the damn carto lined up right! I'll get it in and tightened down, spin the punch down and that bugger will go down the side of the carto. Undo...realign, try again until I gt it centered. Chit on these old geezer eyes

I figured out the trick to the Bov.....as you tighten down the side screws and watch the valve needle try to work it's way to one side or the other....hold the carto firmly in position, back out one side screw and tighten the other side. This technique will force the needle to go directly in the center of the carto.

 

[markfm]

A collar punch gets rid of the slipping needle, since the carto is sitting in a 0.25" circular hole in a chunk of metal, no way for the punch screw to go anywhere but straight into the carto body.

I'm playing around with one, just testing options. The screw is the toughest part, first couple I've tried I've not been happy with.

 

[FreeFire]

Keep us updated on your findings....would be nice to find a consistent easy way to punch just the right sized hole with perfect depth.

 

[vikki59]

My biggest problem with the saddle valve is getting the damn carto lined up right! I'll get it in and tightened down, spin the punch down and that bugger will go down the side of the carto. Undo...realign, try again until I gt it centered. Chit on these old geezer eyes

OMG ~ I was just about ready to throw mine in the trash I was getting sooooo frustrated LOL... It kept going down one side, so I'd realign it ~ THEN it would go down the other side ~ WTH?? Persistence pays off! I did notice the point is getting purty dull tho, so I'm thinkin of investing in another carto punch type tool here purty soon... I know there are some good ones out there, I just need to find em...


Just saw Marks post. Hmmmm

 

[Bovinia]

I like the collar punches I've seen, just can't see paying a fortune for one! Bruce has them over at http://www.cloudsofvapor.com/store/127-new-at-cov/1054-stainless-steel-carto-punch.html but he's always out of stock