Nic bottles

[opticruby]

I have 3 250 ml bottles, and 2 100 ml bottles in the freezer. As I use the nic I will transfer the nic in the 250 ml bottles to the 100 ml bottles for usage.

We think alike,I think

And dont worry about the nicotine exp date. I seen a couple people say they are past 7 years storing in the freezer and the nicotine is just as good today as the day they first stored it.

This is good to hear as mine would be out of date next year because it only has a 1 year exp date but I was sure I'd read not to take much notice of exp dates. As long as its kept in a cool dark place but this is the first time I've frozen large amounts of nic base.

 

[mattiem]

The only reason I date mine is so I can use the older stuff first.

 

[Alien Traveler]

I've started stocking up on nic base (PG) and I've found these glass bottles.

5 x Amber Glass Bottles 250ml (8.8oz) with brown polypropylene PP caps:Amazon.co.uk:Beauty


Are they ok for freezing my bases?
I wasnt sure because of the cap plastic.

Also Its got a 1 year expiry date on it,is it ok to ignore it due to freezing?

Thankyou.
Mark.

Bottles are good. Not sure about caps. You need really good lining (to prevent air/moisture circulation to/from bottles). I prefer caps with poly-cones (do not know if "PP" in description of your bottles somehow related to polycone).

Those Bottles should be Fine to Freeze Nicotine Base in. Here is one Tip though for Freezing any Liquid.

Pour your Liquid in the Bottle leaving about an 25mm from the Top of the Bottle. Then put the Bottles(s) in the Freezer Upright with the Cap on Very Lose. Let them sit for about 24 Hours. Then come back and Tighten the Cap(s).

If the e-liquid Contracts when it gets cold (as just about Every Chemical Compound does) or if the e-liquid Expands (which about Only thing with Water in the do), there has to be someplace for the Air to go. Else you could Crack the Bottle.

Same with if you lay the Bottle on it's side and then Freeze it. No Place for the Air Bubble to go if it needs to get Smaller. Or Bigger.

I am very much against this advise. Fill bottles full, leaving just a small amount of air (less oxygen in a bottle - better). Tighten caps before putting them in a freezer. You do not want excess of water in your stored nicotine. Change in air pressure in a freezer is small, not a problem for glass bottles at all.

 

[opticruby]

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Bottles are good. Not sure about caps. You need really good lining (to prevent air/moisture circulation to/from bottles). I prefer caps with poly-cones.

I did wander about the caps because I was'nt sure about the type of plastic used and if there would be any reaction with the nicotine. I will look into the poly-cone caps streight away. Thankyou.

am very much against this advise. Fill bottles full, leaving just a small amount of air (less oxygen in a bottle - better). Tighten caps before putting them in a freezer. You do not want excess of water in your stored nicotine. Change in air pressure in a freezer is small, not a problem for glass bottles at all.

This is the bit I start getting confused about because I see the logic behind both yours and others theories.

I've also read leave a 2mm gap

 

[mattiem]

I agree with Alien on this one. I see no reason to leave the caps loose to begin with. I followed the advice of folks around here about the 1/4 head space. That just leaves room for the poli-cone caps. I don't know what that means in mm since I measure in inches You just want as little space for air in there as possible.

 

[zoiDman]

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I am very much against this advise. Fill bottles full, leaving just a small amount of air (less oxygen in a bottle - better). Tighten caps before putting them in a freezer. You do not want excess of water in your stored nicotine. Change in air pressure in a freezer is small, not a problem for glass bottles at all.

Do me a favor.

Take a 250ml Bottle of Nicotine Base and fill it to whatever Level you want. Then Weigh it using at Least a +/- .01 Gram Balance. Now do what I said to do. Leaving the Cap Lose.

After 24 Hours in the Freezer, take it out and Re-Weigh it. Then tell me how Much Water the Nicotine Base in the Bottle has Absorbed?

 

[zoiDman]

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This is the bit I start getting confused about because I see the logic behind both yours and others theories.

I've also read leave a 2mm gap

I wouldn't worry about Any of This. And sometimes people can Over Think things.

Plenty of People have done it Both Ways, Almost No Space - 25mm Head Space. Neither way has Shown to be Much Different.

 

[Alien Traveler]

Do me a favor.

Take a 250ml Bottle of Nicotine Base and fill it to whatever Level you want. Then Weigh it using at Least a +/- .01 Gram Balance. Now do what I said to do. Leaving the Cap Lose.

After 24 Hours in the Freezer, take it out and Re-Weigh it. Then tell me how Much Water the Nicotine Base in the Bottle has Absorbed?

Bottle taken from a freezer will be coated with water...
Leaving too much air in the bottle will provide more oxygen for oxidation.
Changing of air pressure due to temperature is not important for a glass bottle.

O, I forgot one thing. When taking bottle from a freezer for use, do not open it until it comes to room temperature - to prevent water condensation inside your bottle.

 

[zoiDman]

Bottle taken from a freezer will be coated with water...
Leaving too much air in the bottle will provide more oxygen for oxidation.
Changing of air pressure due to temperature is not important for a glass bottle.

O, I forgot one thing. When taking bottle from a freezer for use, do not open it until it comes to room temperature - to prevent water condensation inside your bottle.

Jeeze. Do I have to tell you to Dry Off the Bottle before you Re-Weigh it? LOL

Why don't we Talk About Quantitative Values instead of Generalities. You say that there will be Water Absorbed into the Nicotine Base, Great. How Much?

Same with Oxidation. Can you put some Numbers on How Much More or How Much Less Oxidation will Occur doing it One Way or Another?

 

[opticruby]

O, I forgot one thing. When taking bottle from a freezer for use, do not open it until it comes to room temperature - to prevent water condensation inside your bottle.

Thankyou for the info. I'll let the temprature come up and all the condensation on the outside of the bottle to evaporate first before opening the bottle.

 

[Alien Traveler]

Jeeze. Do I have to tell you to Dry Off the Bottle before you Re-Weigh it? LOL

Why don't we Talk About Quantitative Values instead of Generalities. You say that there will be Water Absorbed into the Nicotine Base, Great. How Much?

Same with Oxidation. Can you put some Numbers on How Much More or How Much Less Oxidation will Occur doing it One Way or Another?

Why do I need numbers?
You gave somewhat wrong advice: 1. Do not fill bottles full (why? space in a freezer is rather limited). 2. Do not screw caps for 25 hours (why? Who need unnecessary additional moves, especially when you can have condensation on and in a bottle doing so).
If you insist your way is as safe as (already many times discussed) usual way, please, supply needed numbers.

 

[zoiDman]

Why do I need numbers?
You gave somewhat wrong advice: 1. Do not fill bottles full (why? space in a freezer is rather limited). 2. Do not screw caps for 25 hours (why? Who need unnecessary additional moves, especially when you can have condensation on and in a bottle doing so).
If you insist your way is as safe as (already many times discussed) usual way, please, supply needed numbers.

OK Alien.

If you think your way is the Best way to do it. We'll do it Your Way.

Yeah... Who Needs Numbers? LOL

 

[Alien Traveler]

OK Alien.

If you think your way is the Best way to do it. We'll do it Your Way.

Yeah... Who Needs Numbers? LOL

I feel good to be in agreement with you.

 

[zoiDman]

I feel good to be in agreement with you.

Yeah... Doing that Entire Weigh/Freeze thing would be Hard. And way to Scienency.