Nic dropping anyone?

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nyiddle

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Wow you guys vape really high nicotine levels.

I was a 2-pack-a-day smoker for about 2 years, (started when I was 15). When I started vaping a year ago on a simple tank setup I was vaping 12-18mg, and that was more than enough for me. When I switched to dripping I dropped to 6. Now I vape 0-6. Usually higher nic in the morning/night, during the day I usually puff on 0 or 3.

That said though, when I use my tank(s) I kick it up to 8-12mg/ml.
 

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Wow you guys vape really high nicotine levels.

When I started vaping I took way too high nic levels, probably in an attempt to minimise the discomfort from not smoking analogs. The short puffs with high strength also enabled me to stealth vape at different locations.

But I soon found that it was too much for my throat, and that I preferred to take twice the number of puffs with half the nic strength.

When I see some people doing deep lung inhales with huge clouds from very low ohm builds, I'm not surprised that they are getting down to 3mg nic strength. But the nicotine level alone tells us nothing about total nic consumption.
 
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When I see some people doing deep lung inhales with huge clouds from very low ohm builds, I'm not surprised that they are getting down to 3mg nic strength. But the nicotine level alone tells us nothing about total nic consumption.

Agreed.

When I'm "cloud-chasing" --.. (God I hate that term, let me start over..)

When I'm enjoying a warm .3ohm 6mg vape (much better), it feels that I'm getting much more nicotine per puff than when I use a higher-ohm build (1ohm+) with 6 or even 12mg. There really needs to be some formal analysis done on this, not just having some guys puff on 50mg through an ego battery/ce4 and calling that objective science.
 

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Agreed.

When I'm "cloud-chasing" --.. (God I hate that term, let me start over..)

When I'm enjoying a warm .3ohm 6mg vape (much better), it feels that I'm getting much more nicotine per puff than when I use a higher-ohm build (1ohm+) with 6 or even 12mg. There really needs to be some formal analysis done on this, not just having some guys puff on 50mg through an ego battery/ce4 and calling that objective science.
You're using much more liquid with low resistance/high wattage, and you are therefore getting more nicotine. I used to vape around 3 ml per day with my clearos, but I use 10+ ml per day with my RTAs. That means that when I'm using 3mg liquids in my RTAs I'm actually getting more nicotine than when I was using 9mg liquids with my clearos.
 

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You're using much more liquid with low resistance/high wattage, and you are therefore getting more nicotine. I used to vape around 3 ml per day with my clearos, but I use 10+ ml per day with my RTAs. That means that when I'm using 3mg liquids in my RTAs I'm actually getting more nicotine than when I was using 9mg liquids with my clearos.

Yeah but there has to be some way of calculating that "based on a x second pull at y ohms, holding the vapor in for approximately z seconds, you are inhaling a specific amount of nicotine (given the nicotine level of juice)." I think the science exists to do it, there just isn't enough backing for it at the moment to figure out the exact difference between ohms and nicotine absorption.
 

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I started at 24, was down to 18 in around two months, then down to a mixed 15 in all of my tanks. Got into RDAs so dropped to 12, then 6, now mostly 3.

I start my day every day with DIY bacco in a plain ol' PTMini2 at 10, then move onto other things later in the day. I drip some 6, sometimes even 12 with some juices, but always end up down to mostly 3 at night.

Started dropping my nic because I noticed it was causing insomnia for me. As soon as I got down to about 6 after around 6:00 the insomnia went away. now that my body has adjusted vaping higher nic buzzes me out...lol.
 

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I started at18, had to go up to 26 to totally quit smoking, went back to 18, hit some stress and had to go back to 26. Now I'm doing DIY and am mostly at 20-23 since I'm making a base at 24 and just adding the flavors to that.

I am vaping less now, especially later in the day, so I probably could go lower, but I'm in no rush.
 

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It does not make much sense to mention the amount of mg without mentioning the amount of ml at the same time.

I started vaping at 45mg/ml in an EVOD and an eRoll at 2.2 ohm, using about 0.7ml per day. When I switched over to better mods with more advanced atomizers and lower resistance builds, my nic strength went down and my liquid consumption went up. Today, with a quality mech mod and a GP Heron atty running a 0.8 ohm microcoil around Japanese cotton for superb wicking, I use liquid at 15mg/ml but the consumption has gone up to 2ml per day.

All in all it has only been my devices and liquid strength that changed over time, but my nic consumption has stayed exactly the same (about 30mg/day). That is fine by me, I never started vaping with the intention to quit using nic, just to switch to the healtier alternative.

Totally agree with you. Without also looking at the volume of liquid vaped, just talking about the strength doesn't mean very much.

I vape anywhere between 4 and 12mg/ml, and my amount vaped changes (without much conscious thought) to keep me at about 30 to 36 mg a day.
 

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I started over again 3 months ago at 18mg in the tanks. Now I'm at 9mg in the tanks and 5mg in the dripper. The level has been lowering 1mg every week lately at the start of my weekend. The drop to 10/7 is slightly rough. The drop to 9/5 content is very rough. I'm liking the diy juice realm as there is so much control over what one can do.

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The amount of liquid consumption is varying wildly. Anywhere between 3-6ml. I do notice that I'm not very dependent on the devices at all sometimes. Other times I want and crave full throttle chain vaping. I'm definitely sensing an improvement over my cig addiction overall.
 
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at a little over three months I tried to make that jump to 6mg from 12mg...that was SO NOT happening..I have a couple in 6mg for when I sit and chain vape so I dont' get palpitations, sweats, nausea...I started at 24mg at the end of may, stepped down to 18mg and quickly to 12mg..but thats where I'm staying for awhile, less than that, I'm having nicotine withdrawls (frankly).
Same here.
I started vaping at 18 mg, then dropped to 12 mg and all was fine. But when I dropped to 6 mg, I started having tons of withdrawal symptoms.
It got so bad I was really close to starting smoking again.
On top of that I realized I had dropped my nicotine level, but vaped almost twice as much now, so that didnt make any sense.
Eventually I managed to get to 9 mg and thats where Im staying now. I rather stay at 9 mg, than to smoke again tbh.;)
 

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Wow you guys vape really high nicotine levels.

I was a 2-pack-a-day smoker for about 2 years, (started when I was 15). When I started vaping a year ago on a simple tank setup I was vaping 12-18mg, and that was more than enough for me. When I switched to dripping I dropped to 6. Now I vape 0-6. Usually higher nic in the morning/night, during the day I usually puff on 0 or 3.

That said though, when I use my tank(s) I kick it up to 8-12mg/ml.

We vape really high nicotine levels compared to those who just started vaping.

This isnt meant to be insulting or to call you a noob either.

When I first started vaping 5 or 6 years ago 36 mg was routinely carried by every juice supplier out there. Honestly. Ask the other vets, they'll tell you the same.

Now its a rarity to even see it.
 

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I wonder how you were able to do 20ml a day with a clearo.. did you have any time left to breath normal air? :vapor:

Edit to clairfy
i was going thro a crap ton of clearo's, i dont remember how many ml at first. but once i got on dct's i was goin thro them like crazy. i guess that was a couple months in......
 
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We vape really high nicotine levels compared to those who just started vaping.

This isnt meant to be insulting or to call you a noob either.

When I first started vaping 5 or 6 years ago 36 mg was routinely carried by every juice supplier out there. Honestly. Ask the other vets, they'll tell you the same.

Now its a rarity to even see it.

Yes you are right.

I think that this is a real problem for part of the smokers who want to switch to vaping. In many European countries the vaping industry has been adopting a maximum of 20mg/ml. At first this was done voluntarily and driven by the vaping associations, to satisfy politics, but this is currently being transformed into official legislation in many European countries (under the "Tobacco Products Directive" of the European Commission).

I think that this is a bad thing. Many smokers who want to switch to vaping need higher nic levels than 20mg, especially since they usually start with some cheap Chinese starter kit (just to try if it works for them). If all liquids stronger than 20mg are really banned, I fear that this will cost a lot of lives from people who do not manage to quit smoking with that.

There seems to be no valid reason why to ban liquids above 20mg for the benefit of public health. Nicotine is a very self regulating drug, in the sense that it just doesn't feel good to take too much. It will cause headaches and other nuisances that will simply force you to lower either the concentration or the amount. A max of 20mg will however force some starting vapers to lurk on their crappy devices much longer than they did with their analogs, which will lead to failed attempts.

In my opinion this is not legislation intended to improve public health, but to protect the highly profitable taxes generated by people who smoke analogs. The politicians who pushed for this legislation will actually be responsible for the death of many people. That is my opinion, but probably not of the general public..

EDIT: sorry for getting off-topic, but this subject obviously triggers me more than a bit..
 
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