so you had 2 brass caps Papa. But you said that you touched a silver venting cap if I read well.
Nickel Allergy?
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sorry for the confusion, I was talking about the button cap. there is two parts to the button.
The cap which is what we press on the outside of the switch assembly and the stem which is inside the switch assembly and contacts the axis on the negative side of the battery.
For the test I rubbed the Button Cap on my skin thinking it was Nickel plated. That is were a big rash appeared.
Seeing the button cap is not nickel plated then I am at a loss as to why I am breaking out in a rash at the places the button touches.
I clean the ggts top to bottom once a week and it has been over a month since polishing it. I really do not think it is a residue from polish or cleaners causing this. Maybe it is but I do not know what to think of it right now.-
The cap which is what we press on the outside of the switch assembly and the stem which is inside the switch assembly and contacts the axis on the negative side of the battery.
For the test I rubbed the Button Cap on my skin thinking it was Nickel plated. That is were a big rash appeared.
Seeing the button cap is not nickel plated then I am at a loss as to why I am breaking out in a rash at the places the button touches.
I clean the ggts top to bottom once a week and it has been over a month since polishing it. I really do not think it is a residue from polish or cleaners causing this. Maybe it is but I do not know what to think of it right now.-
Papa, I can sympathize with you on the allergy thing. At least you are having rashes and not full shock. I ignored the issue when I was 35 and it went on to be a problem until I was 46. The odd thing about allergies is they can appear and disappear literally overnight. You didn't ask but I will say anyway that I would check for an allergist in your area.
As to the GG, all the stainless steel parts are made of 303 and 304 grade stainless steel. I am thinking along with Para as to transference being the culprit because if it was say the steel in your button cap then the body would also cause the same reaction. A stainless steel allergy is documented but is scarce as hens teeth.
All of this may sound like mumbo jumbo but as I mentioned it is based on hard core personal experience. Over 20 years ago, they would not test for chcemical reactions at all until I found a study on the subject and signed away all kind of recourse if the tests went bad at University of Florida.
Turned out I was allergic to FD&C Yellow #5 and #6. Even after the determination, I still had several anaphylactic episodes from merely handling food items that had the dye in it. The crazy thing is it literally went away overnight. I went from an ambulance ride if I handled a yellow Gummy Bear to able to eat them overnight. I still keep an Epi-pen near me almost 12 years after the cessation though.
I hope all that hot air can save you some time as I didn't really pay attention to it in the beginning until I was having full shock episodes. It sounds like a lot of trouble but it is worth your while to deal with it while it is at rash level instead of the stupid way I handled mine. Good luck to you and hopefully noticing it now will allow it to be addressed at this earlier stage.
As to the GG, all the stainless steel parts are made of 303 and 304 grade stainless steel. I am thinking along with Para as to transference being the culprit because if it was say the steel in your button cap then the body would also cause the same reaction. A stainless steel allergy is documented but is scarce as hens teeth.
All of this may sound like mumbo jumbo but as I mentioned it is based on hard core personal experience. Over 20 years ago, they would not test for chcemical reactions at all until I found a study on the subject and signed away all kind of recourse if the tests went bad at University of Florida.
Turned out I was allergic to FD&C Yellow #5 and #6. Even after the determination, I still had several anaphylactic episodes from merely handling food items that had the dye in it. The crazy thing is it literally went away overnight. I went from an ambulance ride if I handled a yellow Gummy Bear to able to eat them overnight. I still keep an Epi-pen near me almost 12 years after the cessation though.
I hope all that hot air can save you some time as I didn't really pay attention to it in the beginning until I was having full shock episodes. It sounds like a lot of trouble but it is worth your while to deal with it while it is at rash level instead of the stupid way I handled mine. Good luck to you and hopefully noticing it now will allow it to be addressed at this earlier stage.
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Thank you Major,
I am taking all of this in and trying to determine what it is that I have come into contact with.
Evidently it is something I come into contact with regularly, as I clean my hands at least once a day and the GG once a week if not twice.
It also seems that it is something I have to be in contact with for extended or multiple times as I would transfer it to the switch somehow and then while I vape I continue contact with it at the switch. No other part of my body that my hands touch has any rash like symptoms just places were the switch contacts my skin. So it aint the switch then it has to be something ON the switch.
Now I have to figure out what I am getting on the switch that is causing the rash after repeateed exposure.
Aint life grand.
PS maybe I need to have a scratch test done it would seem that the pressure I put on the switch at those particular spots may be pushing something into the skin making the exposure greater??? does that make sense??
I am taking all of this in and trying to determine what it is that I have come into contact with.
Evidently it is something I come into contact with regularly, as I clean my hands at least once a day and the GG once a week if not twice.
It also seems that it is something I have to be in contact with for extended or multiple times as I would transfer it to the switch somehow and then while I vape I continue contact with it at the switch. No other part of my body that my hands touch has any rash like symptoms just places were the switch contacts my skin. So it aint the switch then it has to be something ON the switch.
Now I have to figure out what I am getting on the switch that is causing the rash after repeateed exposure.
Aint life grand.
PS maybe I need to have a scratch test done it would seem that the pressure I put on the switch at those particular spots may be pushing something into the skin making the exposure greater??? does that make sense??
Hi Popa, I am alergic to PG. If I vape it, I get marks and itches. Are you using PG juice, PG/VG or VG alone? This is one more thing to consider.
Good call by Bruce there. If you have developed an intolerance for PG that you are ingesting, just the normal movement on your skin by the button could cause it. I would definitely consider getting allergy tested though.
All allergies really are are things (usually "normal" things) that our immune system has suddenly started seeing as an intruder. When our metabolism changes, so can that. I am still puzzled by the button somewhat.
Just an idea that I would try (which may be crazy as I will try a lot of things
) would be to sanitize the button cap and the area you are wanting to "test" on. Like the back of your hand or a inside forearm. After cleaning and without touching the two to anything else, repeat your button test.
If the rash doesn't reappear, you are likely dealing with a transference issue. If it does, you are most likely dealing with something ingested. The only benefit of that at this point would be to have a clearer picture of what your doctor will want to know. No offense to the medical profession but the less you know going in usually equates to that much less in your bank account afterwards.
All allergies really are are things (usually "normal" things) that our immune system has suddenly started seeing as an intruder. When our metabolism changes, so can that. I am still puzzled by the button somewhat.
Just an idea that I would try (which may be crazy as I will try a lot of things
) would be to sanitize the button cap and the area you are wanting to "test" on. Like the back of your hand or a inside forearm. After cleaning and without touching the two to anything else, repeat your button test.If the rash doesn't reappear, you are likely dealing with a transference issue. If it does, you are most likely dealing with something ingested. The only benefit of that at this point would be to have a clearer picture of what your doctor will want to know. No offense to the medical profession but the less you know going in usually equates to that much less in your bank account afterwards.
This is gonna sound like the dumbest thing ever but how long after the GG was in use did you rub it on the test spot? It will sound stupid but I've seen people who will break out when around electrical impulses. It's super rare but I've seen it 3 times where someone would go into the server room for the first time and start breaking out, no known allergies but they have a sensitivity to electric fields (as one of their doctors put it).
Super stupid sounding I know but there has to be a somewhat simple electrical field going on around the button. Just another thing to look at but I don't know you would test that other than jumping in a local businesses server room.
Super stupid sounding I know but there has to be a somewhat simple electrical field going on around the button. Just another thing to look at but I don't know you would test that other than jumping in a local businesses server room.
Thanks for all the suggestions.
I ahve once again cleaned the GG and I am going to start testing different things on my skin to see if I can replicate the rash.
We now know it is not the switch itself so it had to be something that I am touching and it got on the GG and then on me again.
I appreciate all the help.
PS I agree with Major, I can diagnose my self and save $$$ for my Odysseus.
I ahve once again cleaned the GG and I am going to start testing different things on my skin to see if I can replicate the rash.
We now know it is not the switch itself so it had to be something that I am touching and it got on the GG and then on me again.
I appreciate all the help.
PS I agree with Major, I can diagnose my self and save $$$ for my Odysseus.
Lubes????
Hey i am not gonna discriminate.... what you do with your GGTS is totally up to you and as long as done in private we will not be judgmental......LOL
I only use Vaseline on the o rings and threads and never had issues with it. PLus is has been a while since I lubed it up and the rash started before that last lubing.
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