After some research I didnt find anything about nicotine corrosion on paint. I dont think that nic corrodes the paint of the atomizer. If someone has any info about it he can post it here
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I dont really know John. But as we are not sure about it, better to use silver atomizers.
I think you may find that it is the additives to the ejuice that will over time remove the paint. For example, Cinnamon Oil will remove paint. For a lack of better explanation, it will attack the coating at the ends of the atomizer and work it's way between the paint and the metal causing the paint to peel. Some other flavorings may as well. Another note, the use of alcohol in high concentrations may have the same effect depending on what kind of paint is used on the atomizer. Just like how alcohol will melt (Dissolve) the glue inside atomizers if it is left in there at high concentrations.
I do use Alcohol for thinning and also for emulsifying oil based flavorings. Just don't use a lot of it. But, I never use painted atomizers either.
I do use Alcohol for thinning and also for emulsifying oil based flavorings. Just don't use a lot of it. But, I never use painted atomizers either.
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Yeah, I agree with Zor...
Most likely it is the additives that are used for the flavoring of whatever flavor e-juice you are using.... Some things that are used all tho not toxic, will cause some damage to paint..... All in all e-juice tends to be hard on a atomizer... and if not cleaned out daily, atomizers wont last very long and clog up... This has been my experience anyways
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Most likely it is the additives that are used for the flavoring of whatever flavor e-juice you are using.... Some things that are used all tho not toxic, will cause some damage to paint..... All in all e-juice tends to be hard on a atomizer... and if not cleaned out daily, atomizers wont last very long and clog up... This has been my experience anyways
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a friend on greek forum said that every night he puts atomizers in a 95% clear alcohol and he never saw anything on the paint of an atomizer
I can say that painted atty's will peel and chip in due time unless they are kept dry on outside. I feel this becouse most of the painted 901's my mother started vaping on in the begining, i had to scrape them to a metal finish becouse the peeling. Also she lives in florida with the humidity and hot weather doesnt help the liquids and does thin then out prone to leaking out the small atty hole onto the outer painted atomizer. Whatever the case may be its safer then tabacco im thinking but still... Stick with shiny metal finish/chrome to be on a better side of things. Specially when using LR or HV atty's. Just my thoughts.
make note its very important to clean your attys, they will last sooo much longer. I have not had any problems with chipped paint...happy vaping to all
Good point and i think also to clean the contact points where the atomizer meets mod/battery is vital as well and if you let it go too long from what ive seen the gold color contact point with fade silver, and im sure that wouldnt be good for you either breathing in. Its a must to clean if you are using AFS/AVS where the liquids are constant sitting at bottom of atty in the threads...
Why reinvent the AVS just over concerns of paint when they sell stainless attys, makes no sense, just buy stainless if your concerned about it.
Well for me, it's not just about the possible health concern. Containing the atomizer would also prevent the burning of e-liquid. About half a tank through...empty your liquid out and you will see what I mean. My liquid is a much darker color and has a completely different taste to it. It's not horrible, but not nearly as good as a fresh tank tastes.
I have a clear AVS, so I know what you mean about the darkening. I think this occurs more at higher voltages than lower, but it hasn't really bothered me. Also exposure to oxygen and sunlight will also cause PG,VG & nicotine to darken or yellow.
zai, as B-R said, if you really concern about paint you can use silver atties. As for the colour of the liquid, yes it changes because the unburned liquid from the atomizer comes back again inside tank. But even if it wouldnt come back inside tank you would had vape it either from inside atomizer. So I dont see any health issue. Same happens to liquid inside atomizer when it gets burned, you just cant see it.
zai, i totally get your concern, but b-rad and imeo are right about this...it's inevitable with any setup using the attys we currently use. maybe imeo's working on an all ceramic atty or something that will alleviate these concerns, but until then the best bet is to probably stick with the silver colored attys.
Zaiden,
Just a reminder that many of the metal atomizers (silver, platinum, gold, titanium, etc) are painted finishes that merely imitate or copy the surface appearance of those metals These applied "faux" finishes can look surprisingly like the real thing. I wouldn't worry as much about delamination of the finish, as I would leaching of the paint's chemicals into your e-liquid. There are some nasty chemicals residing in paints and finishes. At least with delamination you can see the paint particles. With chemical leaching, you may never see or even taste the contaminants. Common sense tells me that any painted or clear-coated atomizer sitting in a pool of e-liquid is definitely not a good thing, and something I personally would avoid. Good luck to you.
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welcome to GG forum my dear ladymama, I hope to enjoy your staying. As for the atomizers and their paint, its not difficult to see from what they are made for. You scratch a little the surface and you see if paint is out. But remember that if China "copies" the metal's surface by putting transparent paints on it, imagine what is happening to inside of an atomizer that is not "painted". Also dont forget that chemical leaching attacts to all the tube of the atomizer, inside and outside too. That means that the inside of the atomizer is much more dangerous (in case of an atomizer like you said) because liquid is very hot there and many chemicals will be released.
Also, if things are as you say then the reason that they "paint" the outside of an atomizer is to make them look nice and to avoid corrosion of the bad metal that they use. But if they dont paint the inside then imagine what you inhale from a non "painted" bad metal inside. Maybe at the end the paint protects metal and the user too. But even if its not like that then maybe you have some proofs about your concerns. I post my thoughts. If you can post yours then we will have a nice talk about this.
ps..... who Is David?
Also, if things are as you say then the reason that they "paint" the outside of an atomizer is to make them look nice and to avoid corrosion of the bad metal that they use. But if they dont paint the inside then imagine what you inhale from a non "painted" bad metal inside. Maybe at the end the paint protects metal and the user too. But even if its not like that then maybe you have some proofs about your concerns. I post my thoughts. If you can post yours then we will have a nice talk about this.
ps..... who Is David?
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I'm starting to wonder if the AVS is ahead of its time. It seems that without a custom made atomizer, this may be an issue. It sucks that we are all the guinea pigs as e-smoking is such a new thing. Imeo, what do you recommend for the health-conscious people such as myself?
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