Nicotine throat hit with some flavors

[Isaac Nathan]

Hi, I'm a juice maker and would like to know how to decrease or eliminate the throat hit when using some flavors, like lemon, tangerine, pineapple and others citric ones. I used mix some Smooth TPA (0.5 - 1%) and increase the VG % helps a little, but would like to know if exists a additive to be mixed with the flavors or the nicotine to decrease its throat hit (like in the nicsalts that's mixed with benzene acid) and its %.

 

[Baditude]

"Throat hit" is primarily a product of the nic concentration and has a peppery kick to the back of the throat. Pg contributes, too, but less so than the nic concentration.

Maybe you are confusing throat hit with flavor harshness?

Many citrus flavors are naturally harsh, especially if too prominent in the mix. Maybe drop the % of the citrus flavors in your mix.

I'm not aware of any additives that can be mixed to smooth out the throat hit. I've never used the Smooth TPA that you mentioned.

 

[stols001]

I've used the Smooth with mixed results.

I will say, depending on your nicotine levels, (or even just to try) it may well behoove you to try some nicotine salts in your harsher mixes, because it will remove the nicotine part of the equation.

If the flavors you love most are harsh, and you've already decreased PG, that is pretty much what is left to try. If you want to start small, well, most vendors of wholesale nicotine salts will send you a sample for the cost of shipping, so it may be worth a try.

How long are you steeping"? Often times a longer steep will change the quality of a mix.

Best of luck,

Anna

 

[Letitia]

You can try breathing the juice for an hour or two. I mix with citrus often and find this works well for me. I also froth my citrus heavy juices a few seconds longer and always shake them before filling the atty. I don't use additives but find that WF tahitian vanilla cream at .5-1% can soften the edge with out too much intrusion as well.

 

[Letitia]

Another thing is brand...for example FA mandarin is harsh without a longer steep but pairing it with VTA mandarin smooths the mix considerably. VTA/FA 3:1 ratio, 2:1 works well if using creams.

 

[djsvapour]

I'd do anything for some throat hit.

I can't be alone in this...

 

[stols001]

OOps

 

[Letitia]

Another note Purilum pineapple is smooth. Hangsen and SC pineapples are smoother as well.

 

[BrotherBob]

Hi, I'm a juice maker and would like to know how to decrease or eliminate the throat hit when using some flavors, like lemon, tangerine, pineapple and others citric ones. I used mix some Smooth TPA (0.5 - 1%) and increase the VG % helps a little, but would like to know if exists a additive to be mixed with the flavors or the nicotine to decrease its throat hit (like in the nicsalts that's mixed with benzene acid) and its %.

Welcome and glad you joined.
Different nics, whether it be salts or freebase nicotine and percentages, there of, would also be the first correction I'd try. If no luck, could try vaping pure VG and see if you still detect TH. If you still have some sensitivity with pure VG, chances are you may have to vape pure VG awhile until you've healed your throat.
High ohm builds and low watts can lower the temperature of the vape. High temperatures can irritate a damaged throat. A longer drip tip can also cool a vape. I find bakery vapes more soothing than high acidic (alcohol based) fruit flavors.
Might try above until successful, or if not, get back to us (new post), there are more suggestions not covered above.

 

[Isaac Nathan]

"Throat hit" is primarily a product of the nic concentration and has a peppery kick to the back of the throat. Pg contributes, too, but less so than the nic concentration.

Maybe you are confusing throat hit with flavor harshness?

Many citrus flavors are naturally harsh, especially if too prominent in the mix. Maybe drop the % of the citrus flavors in your mix.

I'm not aware of any additives that can be mixed to smooth out the throat hit. I've never used the Smooth TPA that you mentioned.

Yes, the "harshness", the problem using the nicsalts here in Brazil is the price. 100 ml of VG based nicsalts 250mg/ml costs R$500,00 (about US$125) against US$25 the freebase PG based 100mg/ml. I used add .5-1% dairy milk to decrease the harshness.
I have thinked about the PH, I believe the citrus flavors have a acid PH, and freebase nic basic PH, why don't they balance (become neutral)? I never find something about juices PH, only that nicsalts has benzenic acid added to decrease the basic PH. Maybe we can add something to the freebase nic.
I heard about Magic Mask (FA) being added to decrease the citrus flavors harshness, but I didn't tried it yet.

 

[Isaac Nathan]

I've used the Smooth with mixed results.

I will say, depending on your nicotine levels, (or even just to try) it may well behoove you to try some nicotine salts in your harsher mixes, because it will remove the nicotine part of the equation.

If the flavors you love most are harsh, and you've already decreased PG, that is pretty much what is left to try. If you want to start small, well, most vendors of wholesale nicotine salts will send you a sample for the cost of shipping, so it may be worth a try.

How long are you steeping"? Often times a longer steep will change the quality of a mix.

Best of luck,

Anna

About 15 days stepping.

 

[Isaac Nathan]

You can try breathing the juice for an hour or two. I mix with citrus often and find this works well for me. I also froth my citrus heavy juices a few seconds longer and always shake them before filling the atty. I don't use additives but find that WF tahitian vanilla cream at .5-1% can soften the edge with out too much intrusion as well.

I'll try to breath them. Thanks!